what program is best for PS2 playing on comp?

[at0mic_]

what program is best for PS2 playing on comp? i have a theater 550 PRo card.

ive been thru about a dozen capture programs but the quality is just terrible and/or theres severe lag and there seems to be not an ability to have true full screen [black borders]

what program do you all use?

christv - ok but there is a lot of interlacing going on.

is playing ps2 on comp not reasable at this time?

edit:

going to try dscaler, flyds and virtualvcr when i get home. [the few i havent tried yet]

there should be a sticky on this setting ps2 on tvcard stuff and the best way to go about doing it.

[greymalkin]

the reason there is alot of interlacing going on is because you are sending an interlaced video signal to a non-interlaced device (your monitor). You can incorporate de-interlacing but the quality of what you are getting will always look worse than what you see on your tv. You will be essentially stretching the video from it's intended format and putting extra video infomation that wasn't part of the original feed in based on what is above/below the interlaced lines.

And why should this be made into a sticky? It's not really a common question.

UPDATE:

Since i'm such a nice guy I took a few seconds to look this up with google

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=485361

[at0mic_]

thnx . i was perusing that forum earlier today. will post my findings here

[FulciLives]

I've used a bunch of different capture programs and TheFlyDS had the best method of deinterlacing that I have seen ... but it does seem to be a bit tricky to set up correctly ... plus I don't think it will work with the ATI card that you have ... but it's worth a try I guess.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[at0mic_]

bad news...

dscaler - 550 as of yet unsupported. crashes on attempted use
flyds - unsupported
virtualvcr - no deinterlacing options

looks like im SOL

conclusion: buy a mother bleeping tv

[at0mic_]

update:

heard wind of winamp tv and was pleasantly surprised by this extremely smple program:

only 40-50 ms lag playing ps2 with 0 interlacing vhigh quality.

audio settings = digital, direct show
renderer = audigy 2

video settings = video mixing 9 yuv mode
deinterlace = bob
swap fields checked.

pin set to preview in adv.


www.tv-plugin.com for winamptv

[neomaine]

atomic_

You had me a little confused at first, I didn't know if you wanted to:

- Get a PS2 emulater for your PC.
- Use your monitor for displaying your PS2 output directly
- Use your monitor for displaying your PS2 through your video card.

Reading your other post I going with the last one.

I've used my ATI AIW 9600xt card (and my 7200 for that matter) to hook up a number of consoles: nes, snes, n64, ps, gamecube. All hooked up via the composite input, and/or preferably the s-video port. Not sure why the built in deinterlacer, if your using ATIs MMC, isn't working. I'm missing something here.

Things are a little better for my XBOX 360. I picked up the VGA cable for it, a $5 VGA switch and have my computer and 360 plugged into it for any easy to switch native connection. Things look great, for both, on my 19" LCD. Probably look a litltle better on a tube monitor, but the 21" sh!t the bed and had to be replaced. I went LCD and won't look back. The prices and contrast ratios are getting better all the time and the response times are coming down. Though I can't complain with my 12ms, I bet that 8ms will get rid that last little little little bit of lag.

Anyway, I digress. If your emphasis is using your computer monitor for playing your PS2 then I'd hookup via the s-video output (if you have one, don't know PS2) to your cable to your ATI card and simply use MMC for your games and resize accordingly. This should also allow you to capture via the MMC software if needed.

Hope this helps...

[at0mic_]

vga boxes are pretty pricey. about 2/3 the cost of the tv card which i also use for actual tv.

i run win2k. dont even think u can install MMC and i heard to stay away from it. far far away.
without high end deinterlacing that winamptv does, it looks like crap.

playing consoles on computer thru tv cards is still far from perfect nor can you expect it to be perfect [lesson learned]

[neomaine]

atomic_,

- Unless your buying $18 video cards, as far as a vga switch box, $6 isn't too expensive. I had a spare VGA cable around so setup was a snap. A simple turn of a nob and I go from pc to 360 or 360 to pc. If your PS2 has VGA cable capable, I'd pick one up and setup up. You're confusing a composite to vga switch box with a simple vga only switch box. Two different animails.

Something like this only I found one that was manual and without cables for $6:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-to-1-VGA-Electronic-Switch-2-VGA-In-1-VGA-Out_W0QQitemZ972595805...QQcmdZViewItem

And, it looks like VGA for PS2 is possbile with a google search. I found this:
http://www.jandaman.com/ps2vgabox.shtml


- Though I'm currently using xp-pro, everything I just described was for win2k. Use MMC8.7/8.9 and there shouldn't be a problem. As far as your 'high-end' de-interlacing, ATI has been doing it ever since they came out with a TV card. And I completely disagree, everything from the nes to gamecube looked marketdly better than on a standalone TV. Much clearer, and, no overcan area!

- In reality, you've picked up some bad advice and avoided the default solution for your card. And, for your PS2 for that matter.

[at0mic_]

that vga box you pointed to is $50... 2/3 of price of tv card.

pretty hard to avoid the mass information from mass ppl that mmc is just bad

[dj4monie]

MMC isn't bad at all. Any issues from ATI cards have been caused by myself and not the card or its software.

I can capture PS2 from it with ease, I have. Through MMC and through Pinncle its stupid easy.

I refuse to play games on my small 17" monitor (I do it enough with MAME and ePSX) and the price on LCD tv's are dropping like a rock. You would be doing yourself a favor and invest in one of those.

Have I mentioned how good GT4 looks on a HDTV ready display?

Downright breathtaking...

[at0mic_]

how a interlaced device look good on an non-interlaced lcd without deinterlacing?

[neomaine]

atomic_

Looks like you can't read either:

Something like this only I found one that was manual and without cables for $6:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-to-1-VGA-Electronic-Switch-2-VGA-In-1-VGA-O ... dZViewItem

Notice I said Something like this and manual and without cables. Once you knock off the stuff you don't need you end up with a metal box with wires in it for $6. If I think it important enough, when I get home, I'll check my mail folder that I keep (most) of my online purchase emails and I'll get you exactly what I paid for it.

Hopefully, you looked at my second link which I think was more appropriate to your situation. It too, was just a link and only an example of what was out there. I'm not going to completely hold your hand for you. You have to be able to read and make decisions on your own for any of this to work.

And as far as your last post, as far as I know, all the current and next gen consoles have a 480p setting. I know the Gcube, XBOX and 360do, don't have a PS2 so I don't know for sure. I'd be REALLY surprised if it didn't.

Look up what 480p is... Otherwise, just let your ATI card do what it was meant to and get over it.