are these the same?

[Ajnk]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hauppauge-WinTV-PVR-250-PCI-w-IR-Remote-TiVo-Like_W0QQitemZ8804531...QQcmdZViewItem

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/HAUPPAUGE-WinTV-PVR-250-PCI-TV-Tuner-IR-Remote-Rtl-NEW_W0QQitemZ88...QQcmdZViewItem

?

[Bodyslide]

Looks to me like they are.

[Denvers Dawgs]

I agree