VideoHelp Forum
+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2
1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 31
Thread
  1. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Is there a particular setting when converting widescreen avis to dvds? I converted a widescreen dvd and the finished product was obviouly 4x3 ratio
    paparay
    Quote Quote  
  2. Member ChrissyBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Yorkshire!
    Search Comp PM
    CAn you post the log file?

    Basically widescreen avis are converted to widescreen DVDs. But if your source duration is such that the new encoded bitrate is lower than 3000kbs, SVCD2DVD will choose half-d1 resolution (rather that the default full-d1 res) and so the DVD will be 4:3.....

    There is a registry tweak you can do to override this but it is there to achieve better quality for long videos.
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
    VOB2MPG PRO, Extract mpegs from your DVDs - with you in control!
    Quote Quote  
  3. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Sorry I did not save log file. I will try another conversion and see what happens.
    paparay
    Quote Quote  
  4. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Hi ChrissyBoy,
    I'm new to the board and also new to SVCD2DVD which I became a registered user of yesterday.
    I currently capture my videos from my MiniDV camcorder onto my PC using WinDV, and now I'm able to convert the output of the captures (AVI files) into DVDs thanks to you software.

    All my recordings with the MiniDV camera are done in 16:9 ratio, I would like that my DVDs maintain this ratio as well without having to record 3 hours of tape to do this.

    From you post above, you menion this can be tweaked in the registry. Would you please let me know how to do this?

    Also, will there ever be a feature as part of the SVCD2DVD sotware that allows the user to have the option of creating a DVD in widescreen (assuming that the recording was done this way) without having to go to the registry, since you mentioned it will affect the quality of long videos?
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  5. Check here:

    https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1439017&sid=48c4358c92ee2d96531824fa0ba01521#1439017

    should work for you, just change the destination as appropriate for your current version.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  6. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Jikchung,

    Thanks for the tip. I just tried it, I added the stream line and assigned the value of "0" to it .

    The avi file is widescreen but the end result is still full frame (.mpg). I also noticed that the DVD plays fine (still full framed) on one DVD player (the cheapest one), and sort of blury at times and shaky on another DVD player (more expensive one). I was wondering why this is.

    I certainly would like to get someone's input on this. I would like to maintain the aspect ratio of the source (widescreen).

    Here's my log file:

    ************************************************** ******************
    ************************ SYSTEM INFORMATION ************************
    ************************************************** ******************

    ***************************** SVCD2DVD *****************************

    Name: SVCD2DVD 2.1
    Title: 2.1
    Version: 2.1.2308.33338
    Executable: C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\SVCD2DVD.exe
    Executable size: 2.85 MB
    Executable size in bytes: 2998355
    Executable CreationTime: 4/28/2006 2:33:02 AM
    Executable LastWriteTime: 6/25/2006 6:24:54 PM
    Executable LastAccessTime: 6/27/2006 2:55:05 AM

    ************************* Operating System *************************

    Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
    Service Pack: Service Pack 2
    Version : 5.1.2600
    Windows Directory : C:\WINDOWS

    OSLanguage: 1033
    CodeSet: 1252
    CountryCode: 1
    Local: 0409

    Total Physical Memory: 767 MB
    Free Physical Memory: 489 MB
    Total Virtual Memory: 1.99 GB
    Free Virtual Memory: 1.95 GB

    ***************************** Computer *****************************

    Computer Manufacturer Name: D850MV
    Computer Model: MV85010A
    System Type: X86-based PC
    Computer Name: END-GZNG5YRJIDB
    DomainRole: x2c3419cdc9b8e007
    Number Of Processors: 1
    User Name: END-GZNG5YRJIDB\will

    ***************************** Processor ****************************

    Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
    Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz
    Description: x86 Family 15 Model 1 Stepping 2
    CPU Speed: 1.694GHz
    CPU FSB: 100MHz
    L2 Cache Size: 256 bytes

    ***************************** Time Zone ****************************

    Time Zone: (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana

    ****************************** VIDEO *******************************

    Name: All-in-Wonder RADEON 7500
    Processor: RV200 AGP (QW)
    Mode: 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
    Video Ram: 64.0 MB
    Status: OK

    ****************************** Drives *******************************

    DeviceID: C:
    FileSystem: NTFS
    Size: 37.2 GB
    FreeSpace: 8.63 GB

    ************************************************** ******************
    ********************* END OF SYSTEM INFORMATION ********************
    ************************************************** ******************

    ************************* ProjectMetaData **************************

    <SVCD2DVD DateTime="6/26/2006 7:56:57 PM" Filename="NONE"><AssetSet><Asset ID="0139aa98-11a5-4084-afda-bb3c44b0e89d" Path="C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum" Filename="SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00.avi" /></AssetSet><DVDStructure><TitleSet Name="San Diego Natural History Museum" PostCmd="" MenuButtonType="0"><MenuButton X1="16" Y1="0" X2="704" Y2="49" FontFamily="Tahoma" FontSize="28" FontStyle="3">San Diego Natural History Museum</MenuButton><Title Name="SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00.avi" AssetID="0139aa98-11a5-4084-afda-bb3c44b0e89d" MplexOffset="0" /></TitleSet><DVDMenu Normal="-1" Highlight="-65536" Active="-16711681" ShowPlayAllButton="False" DSOffsetWidth="1" DSOffsetHeight="1" DSColor="0" DSOnOff="True" BackgroundImagePath="C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum\museum.bmp" AudioPath="" /></DVDStructure><Settings><General InitialAssetFolder="" InitialDVDFolder="" InitialProjectFolder="" InitialMenuBackgroundFolder="" DeleteS2DFiles="False" UseDVDShrink="False" /><Menu AudioEncoding="Custom_ac3" DefaultCustomAudioPath="" DefaultCustomImagePath="" TVStandard="NTSC" FontFamily="Tahoma" FontSize="28" FontStyle="3" PlayAllText="Play All" Loop="True" ShowMenuStandardWarning="True" EncodeVideo2AudioDuration="False" /><Process AudioEncoding="ac3" Chapters="Every 5 mins" SkipMPA48="False" SkipAC3="True" PanSan="False" MergeTitles="False" UsePulldown="True" PAL2NTSC="False" AVI2PASS="False" AVI2HALFD1="FS" NoBframes_FullME="False" UseCustomMatrices="False" IntraMatrix="" NonIntraMatrix="" TVOverscanPixels="0" UseThreads="True" /><Program BINExtraction="vcdxrip" VCDGearFIX="False" FastAudioEncode="True" /><Burning BurningMethod="NeroBurner" DVDDrive="MAD DOG MD-16X3DVD9-8X " NeroWriteSpeed="Max" Eject="True" HighDVDCompat="True" VerifyDVD="False" DVDDecrypterPath="" DVDDErase="True" DVDDClose="False" DVDDDontBurn="False" /></Settings></SVCD2DVD>

    ************************* ProjectMetaData **************************
    Processing assets for DVD creation

    =================== AV Details ===================
    File Size: 2.96 GB
    file=C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum\SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00.avi
    FormatName=avi
    Num_Frames=25069
    DurationInSecs=836
    Duration=00:13:56.4
    VideoCodec=dvvideo
    Width=720
    Height=480
    Standard=NTSC
    BitRate=30451
    AudioStreamCount=1
    Audio1StreamID=[0x1]
    Audio1SampleRate=48000
    Audio1Codec=pcm_s16le
    Audio1BitRate=1536
    Audio1Channels=2
    =================== AV Details ===================

    AVI2MPG: 7800kbs Full-D1
    Pass 1/1: Processing SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00.avi
    19:56:58: FFmpeg version CVS, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard

    19:56:58: configuration: --enable-a52 --enable-gpl --enable-memalign-hack --disable-debug --enable-pthreads

    19:56:58: libavutil version: 49.0.0

    19:56:58: libavcodec version: 51.4.0

    19:56:58: libavformat version: 50.2.1

    19:56:58: built on Mar 14 2006 17:24:07, gcc: 3.4.4 (mingw special)

    19:56:58: Input #0, avi, from 'C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum\SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00.avi':

    19:56:58: Duration: 00:13:56.4, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 30451 kb/s

    19:56:58: Stream #0.0, 29.97 fps(r): Video: dvvideo, yuv411p, 720x480

    19:56:58: Stream #0.1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, 1536 kb/s

    19:56:58: Output #0, dvd, to 'C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum\SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00_S2D.mpg':

    19:56:58: Stream #0.0, 29.97 fps(c): Video: mpeg2video (hq), yuv420p, 720x480, q=1-31, 7800 kb/s

    19:56:58: Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 448 kb/s

    19:56:58: Stream mapping:

    19:56:58: Stream #0.0 -> #0.0

    19:56:58: Stream #0.1 -> #0.1

    20:18:25: AC EOB marker is absent pos=66

    20:18:25: AC EOB marker is absent pos=68

    20:18:25: AC EOB marker is absent pos=68

    20:22:27: video:785156kB audio:45743kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 1.733342%

    20:22:27: AVI2MPG: done.
    20:22:27: Done: Processing assets for DVD creation
    Authoring DVD Folders
    20:22:27: Creating TitleSet # 1
    20:22:27: SVCD2DVD: DVDfolders

    Generating DVD folders please wait....

    20:22:27: -->: DVDFolders creating VTS

    20:22:27: -->: VTS 01

    20:22:27:
    DVD Folders: Processing C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\dummymenuNTSC.mpg...

    20:22:27:
    DVD Folders: Processing C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum\SD_Natural_History_Museum.06-05-25_14-28.00_S2D.mpg...

    20:23:28:

    20:23:28:

    20:23:41:

    20:23:41: Finalising DVD...
    20:23:42: Encoding menu...

    ---------------------------- ENCODING MENU ----------------------------
    TV Standard: NTSC
    Image size: 720x540
    Resize size: 720x480
    ---------------------------- ENCODING MENU ----------------------------

    20:23:45: FFmpeg version CVS, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard

    20:23:45: configuration: --enable-a52 --enable-gpl --enable-memalign-hack --disable-debug --enable-pthreads

    20:23:45: libavutil version: 49.0.0

    20:23:45: libavcodec version: 51.4.0

    20:23:45: libavformat version: 50.2.1

    20:23:45: built on Mar 14 2006 17:24:07, gcc: 3.4.4 (mingw special)

    20:23:45: Input #0, image2, from 'C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\background%d.jpg':

    20:23:45: Duration: 00:00:00.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A

    20:23:45: Stream #0.0, 25.00 fps(r): Video: mjpeg, yuvj420p, 720x480

    20:23:45: Output #0, rawvideo, to 'C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\backgroundES.mpv':

    20:23:45: Stream #0.0, 29.97 fps(c): Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, q=2-31, 1000 kb/s

    20:23:45: Stream mapping:

    20:23:45: Stream #0.0 -> #0.0

    20:23:45: video:174kB audio:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 1.974756%

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] File C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\backgroundES.mpv looks like an MPEG Video stream.

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Found 0 audio streams and 1 video streams

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Multiplexing video program stream!

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\backgroundES.mpv)

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] VIDEO STREAM: e0

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Frame width : 720

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Frame height : 480

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Aspect ratio : 1:1 pixels

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Bit rate : variable

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Vbv buffer size : 34816 bytes

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] CSPF : 0

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 0001248

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] target data-rate specified : 10080000

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Run-in Sectors = 88 Video delay = 12873 Audio delay = 0

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] New sequence commences...

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 0 frame=000000 sector=00000000

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] STREAM e0 completed @ frame 14.

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Multiplex completion at SCR=13458.

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 146877 frame=000014 sector=00000090

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Video Stream length: 182183 bytes

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Sequence headers: 2

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Sequence ends : 0

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] No. Pictures : 15

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] No. Groups : 2

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] No. I Frames : 2 avg. size 55695 bytes

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] No. P Frames : 14 avg. size 4973 bytes

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] No. B Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Average bit-rate : 2730000 bits/sec

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] Peak bit-rate : 1773600 bits/sec

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] BUFFERING min 61735 Buf max 134635

    20:23:46: INFO: [???] MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.

    create sub file....done.
    running menu muxer....done.
    20:23:50: MUXRATE =4400

    20:23:50: after read_bmp(): xd=720 yd=480 x0=0 y0=0

    20:23:50: Found EOF in .sub file.

    20:23:50: warning, sub on line 0 starts before 4s, (some players won't show it)

    20:23:50: subtitle duration: -1

    20:23:50: ***************** HERE WE GO EVE.ODD *******************

    20:23:50: MenuType: EVEN

    20:23:50: subtitle_packet_size: 2777

    20:23:50: subtitle_packet_size & 1: 1

    20:23:50: subtitle_packet_size mod 2: 1

    20:23:50: MenuType==""

    20:23:50: MenuType=="EVEN"

    20:23:50: WAS ODD

    20:23:50: subtitle_packet_size++

    20:23:50: final subtitle_packet_size: 2778

    20:23:50: max_sub_size=2778

    20:23:50: skipped 0 bytes of garbage

    20:23:50: max_sub_size=2778

    20:23:50: 1 subtitles added, 0 subtitles skipped, stream: 32, offset: 0.18

    20:23:50: Encoding menu...Done.
    20:23:50: SVCD2DVD: DVDfolders

    Generating DVD folders please wait....

    20:23:50: -->: DVDFolders creating table of contents

    20:23:50: scanning C:\Documents and Settings\will\My Documents\My Videos\Museum\SVCD2DVD_OUTPUT\VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO

    20:23:50: -->: Creating menu for TOC

    20:23:50:
    DVD Folders: Processing C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\menu.mpg...

    20:23:50:

    20:23:50:

    20:23:50: Finalising DVD...Done
    20:23:50: Done: Authoring DVD Folders


    THANKS!
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  7. OK, first thing is that the registry edit is not meant to change all videos to 16x9. It exists for long duration/low bitrate conversions to avoid half-D1 from being applied. With your video only being 14 minutes long, this will not come into play.

    Next - are you sure that your AVI capture is truly 16x9? How does the AVI display in the preview window of S2D or in WMP? It is being read by S2D as as a 720x480 frame. Are you shooting in 16x9 mode on your camera?

    I ask all these questions because it is extremely rare anymore that S2D misreads the apsect ratio on input.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  8. Just a quick question. When you made the change to the registry settings, did you reboot your pc? You need to do that for the changes to take effect.
    Mark
    Quote Quote  
  9. Originally Posted by mwkurt
    Just a quick question. When you made the change to the registry settings, did you reboot your pc? You need to do that for the changes to take effect.
    Mark
    Either way, he just encoded a short clip. The registry change would have no effect.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  10. Member ChrissyBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Yorkshire!
    Search Comp PM
    ok - if the avi video codec is mpeg4 then svcd2dvd will probe for the pixel aspect ratio (PAR) of the source and then create a 4:3 or 16:9 dvd based on what it finds. For all other avi codecs it will use the dimensions for the calculation as it is assumed that non mpeg4 avis can't have a PAR other than 1:1.

    If your avi also has a PAR of 16:9 then i would need to see a sample of it so i can change the code to accomodate it. Can you use the "MakeSample" tool in the tools folder to send me a smallish sample?
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
    VOB2MPG PRO, Extract mpegs from your DVDs - with you in control!
    Quote Quote  
  11. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Jikchung,

    Next - are you sure that your AVI capture is truly 16x9? How does the AVI display in the preview window of S2D or in WMP? It is being read by S2D as as a 720x480 frame. Are you shooting in 16x9 mode on your camera?

    I ask all these questions because it is extremely rare anymore that S2D misreads the apsect ratio on input.
    Hello and thanks for replying to my question.
    Everything I shoot with my camcorder is 16:9. As I mentioned before I use WinDV to capture my recordings as AVIs. They always play in widescreen with Windows Media Player. I have even backed them up on DVD discs as AVIs and when played from the media, they still are Widescreen.

    When Using SVCD2DVD it creates a folder with the files needed to create a DVD (VoB, IFO, ect...) Also outside that folder it creates an ".mpg" file. When I play this ".mpg" file with WMP, it no longer is widescreen, but now I see the black frame all around the video.

    mwkurt,
    Yes, I bounced my computer after editing the registry. Thanks for replying.

    ChrissyBoy,
    ok - if the avi video codec is mpeg4 then svcd2dvd will probe for the pixel aspect ratio (PAR) of the source and then create a 4:3 or 16:9 dvd based on what it finds. For all other avi codecs it will use the dimensions for the calculation as it is assumed that non mpeg4 avis can't have a PAR other than 1:1.

    If your avi also has a PAR of 16:9 then i would need to see a sample of it so i can change the code to accomodate it. Can you use the "MakeSample" tool in the tools folder to send me a smallish sample?
    Chris, I guess I don't know if the AVI codec is mpeg4 or not. I just use the avi file that WinDV creates when capturing my video. All I know is that it plays in Widescreen mode when I open it with Windows Media Player and when I burn it on a DVD disc and play it on both of my DVD players.
    I am guessing that the "make sample" tool is part of the SVCD2DVD program... If this is the case I will have to wait until I get home to use it since I'm at work at the moment.

    Thanks everyone for your responses.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  12. Will-

    You are capturing a "DVAVI" with WinDV, so it is not mpeg4 and is the reason the AR is not correct in the conversion. The makesample app should be in the "Tools" folder where you installed S2D.

    When I play this ".mpg" file with WMP, it no longer is widescreen, but now I see the black frame all around the video.
    This "black frame" has me curious. I would think that you would have full frame video stretched vertically as a result of encoding a 16x9 video in 4x3. Does your camera do "true" 16x9? Some of them use 'tricks' to achieve a simulated widescreen video (mine is among these).

    Regardless, definitely send Chrissyboy the sample.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  13. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Jikchung,
    This is my camera:

    http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4081789

    You are capturing a "DVAVI" with WinDV, so it is not mpeg4 and is the reason the AR is not correct in the conversion.
    I guess I don't know enough of these things. I cannot understand how something that records on mini DV tapes can already be an AVI file prior to using any capturing software. I believe it becomes AVI through WinDV and not before. Now, I'm also new to WinDV, so maybe there is setting there that I need change.

    I thought I should mention that the video looks more streched up when I play the MPEG that SVCD2DVD creates than when I play widescreen AVI file. When I play the MPEG, it cuts off a bit of the top and bottom of screen but this is more obvious when your compare the cutting on the sides. I played the AVI file on my computer with WMP (widescreen) and the burned DVD media on my DVD player, and I was able to notice a bit of a trim on the top and bottom of the video but more obvious on the sides. People looked a bit more streched (thinner) than normal.

    Who knows, maybe WinDV is not what I should be using. Any ideas?

    I will see if I could get a sample of my avi as soon as I get home today. Where should I send it to?

    Thanks.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  14. I thought I should mention that the video looks more streched up when I play the MPEG that SVCD2DVD creates than when I play widescreen AVI file.
    That makes sense.

    DV-AVI is just another digital format, I wouldn't worry too much about understanding the differences. I have never used WinAVI but it looks like a very good app. and isn't the cause of your issue.

    As to your sample, I think just cut a small piece and email it to Chrissyboy (look in his profile).
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  15. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Dwight,
    I have never used WinAVI but it looks like a very good app. and isn't the cause of your issue.
    You probably meant WinDV...right?

    Thanks for all your help. If getting that sample is straight forward and simple, I should be e-mailing one to ChrissyBoy tonight.

    Thanks.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  16. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    I tried e-mailing a sample of the AVI file, a 10MB file, which probably showed about 5 seconds of the video, but I couldn't.
    I am not sure if I own one of those miniDV camcorders that are not true 16:9 shooters. I took a couple of snapshots of the properties of the file along with how the video looks in each display and these are the results, hopefully this will bring some clarity to this subject:

    1. This one is shows you the properties of the AVI file itself captured with WinDV:



    2. This one shows you the properties of the same file according to Windows Media Player:



    3. This is the AVI file prior to getting converted to Mpeg played by Windows Media Player, as you can see it is in widescreen mode:



    4. Here's how the same file looks like after being converted to Mpeg. Notice that the sides were shortened and the people look streched out:



    5. And last but not least, this how SVCD2DVD sees it prior to convertion, which is pretty close to the original AVI video file. I mean the left and right sides were shortened, but people do not look streched:




    This actually brings some questions to mind to find a solution:

    A) Can this camera be considered as one of those that are not true 16:9 shooters?
    B) Is this a matter of getting a capturing software that encodes the video as Mpeg4 as it was previously mentioned, if so, which one?
    C) Jikchung, do you make your DVDs in Widescreen mode, if so, how?
    D) If the video is longer in duration, can SVCD2DVD encode it as 16:9? How long does it have to be for the FullD1 to kick in? I understand that it does not have to be ONE long video but also the combination of many is an alternative... Is this correct, is so how long?

    Your input will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  17. Member ChrissyBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Yorkshire!
    Search Comp PM
    ok. Thanks for the detailed info. To resolve this properly i will still need to see a sample... But i think i know what is going on. As a possible quick fix can you try using the IfoAR2WS tool on the DVD folder that SVCD2DVD created: http://www.svcd2dvd.com/Software/IfoAR2WS.aspx

    I suspect that will do the trick. Please let me know.

    CB
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
    VOB2MPG PRO, Extract mpegs from your DVDs - with you in control!
    Quote Quote  
  18. You probably meant WinDV...right?
    Yeah...sorry, so many little apps like this. I use DVIO.

    I tried to find a technical review of your camera and was unsuccessful, but the info you provided looks like it's true 16x9.


    C) Jikchung, do you make your DVDs in Widescreen mode, if so, how?
    Yes, but I start with a non-DV format. That doesn't help you, but if you get a sample to Chrissyboy I think it will get ironed out.


    D) If the video is longer in duration, can SVCD2DVD encode it as 16:9? How long does it have to be for the FullD1 to kick in? I understand that it does not have to be ONE long video but also the combination of many is an alternative... Is this correct, is so how long?
    This will not make any difference to the cause of your problem.

    Using the program Chrissyboy suggested (IfoAR2WS) will change the flag in the DVD ifo to 16x9 and should fix the issue for now. Just run it on your finished DVD files before burning and see how it works. It has worked like a charm for me in the past and will probably be a good workaround solution.

    Can you get a slightly smaller file size to send (I know it's hard with DV because of the file size)? 10MB is about the limit of a lot of email accounts.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  19. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Will do tonight as soon as I get home.

    Thank you both for you help.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  20. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Chris,
    I e-mailed you a 5MB sample. Let me know if you need anything else.

    I have to say that I tried the IfoAR2WS program. It works nicely! It almost looks anomorphic, and it definitely got rid of the look of streched out people, but I also noticed that it still cuts down on the sides when I compared both versions (raw AVI vs. final DVD disc) It is a nice work around tool that I can use in the meantime. Hopefully Chris will be able to find a more permanent solution for it that allows to maintain the width of the video.

    Thank you guys!
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  21. Member ChrissyBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Yorkshire!
    Search Comp PM
    ok.

    but I also noticed that it still cuts down on the sides when I compared both versions (raw AVI vs. final DVD disc)
    Is this now an overscan issue? What does the DVD look like on the PC?
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
    VOB2MPG PRO, Extract mpegs from your DVDs - with you in control!
    Quote Quote  
  22. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    The DVD played on the PC looks fine.
    What is it that overscan means?

    I played the DVD on two DVD players (attached to tv sets). In one of them (more expensive one - SONY), the DVD is played in widescreen but the image from the video for the most part shakes (not the first time I noticed this), and as I mentioned before, it seems as it cut down a bit on the sides (maybe this is related to overscanning...).
    I also have another DVD player in the bedroom (cheaper - APEX AD1225). In this DVD player, the DVD does not shake, but no matter what I did to fix it, I could not get it to play in widescreen mode. Any ideas?

    Is there some kind of feature that I should be looking for the next time I decide to buy another DVD player?

    Thanks.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  23. Overscan, simple explanation:

    https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=225853&highlight=overscan

    Shaking on the one player could be media incompatability or a burning speed issue, try another brand of disk or burn slower.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  24. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    Dwight,
    Thanks for the info on overscan.

    Shaking on the one player could be media incompatability or a burning speed issue, try another brand of disk or burn slower.
    I tested the video on three different DVD discs. I tested it on DVD+R dics from TDK, Ritek RiData, and Taiyo Yuden at different burning speeds varying form 16X, 4X, and 2.4X.
    They all had the same fate. Shaky video image on one DVD player but displayed in widescreen, and full frame on another DVD player without the shakyness.

    I do not think the media has much to do here since I used these three types before to backup DVDs in the past, and they worked just fine.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  25. Shaky video image on one DVD player but displayed in widescreen, and full frame on another DVD player without the shakyness.
    We, you've got me on this one. Maybe it's a conversion problem that will be remedied when the widescreen encoding is fixed.
    Dwight

    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
    - Herm Albright

    www.martialconcepts.com
    Quote Quote  
  26. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    ok. Thanks for the detailed info. To resolve this properly i will still need to see a sample... But i think i know what is going on.
    Chris,
    Do you have an ETA on the fix?

    Thanks.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  27. Member ChrissyBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Yorkshire!
    Search Comp PM
    Not yet. Maxed out at the moment.
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
    VOB2MPG PRO, Extract mpegs from your DVDs - with you in control!
    Quote Quote  
  28. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    I have read all I could on Overscan, but I did not find anything about the video shaking when played on some DVD players. Is this also an overscan symptom?

    As described above, the video created with SVCD2DVD played on one TV shakes a lot during the entire length of the video, but if played on my other tv and dvd player, it no longer shakes and if shot in full frame, it looks perfect.

    I tested these videos on a third TV, which happens to have a DVD player incorporated and they also shake.
    I guess I'm wondering why this doesn't happen with regulard DVD movies. With regular DVD movies, if they are widescreen, that will be the way they are played regardless of the TV set or DVD player, with no shakes.

    I do not care about making a professional DVD with fancy menus and the ability to include scrolling credits at the end... etc. I do not really care about all that, but I would love to be able to provide decent videos to friends and family members of our gatherings, such as birthdays, holidays we spend together, etc... without having to explain to them that overscan may get in the way depending on their TV or why it looks full frame with streched out people when it was shot in widescreen and shakes like crazy...

    Will there be any time soon a new version of this software that can address these issues?
    Please, do not get me wrong! I love this software, one of the reasons that caught my attention to it, was its simplicity, which allows a person like me that does not know much about making a video to actually create one without having to buy three different programs to achieve the same result or possess a great deal of knowledge about it. I just think SVCD2DVD is still a work in progress.

    Thanks.
    Will
    Quote Quote  
  29. Member ChrissyBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Yorkshire!
    Search Comp PM
    Well the "video shaking" issue is a funny. my recommendation is to use a standalone encoder on your source files so that you have more control over your conversion to mpeg. Your sources have a very high bitrate and maybe this is causing the problem.

    SVCD2DVD is not work in progress but it is not particually tested on MiniDV camcorder sources as there are many different formats and types. Rather capture/convert to a more common avi codec or mpeg2 before feeding it to SVCD2DVD.

    If you are not satified, drop me an email and i will cancel the registration & refund you.
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
    VOB2MPG PRO, Extract mpegs from your DVDs - with you in control!
    Quote Quote  
  30. Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    United States
    Search Comp PM
    I did a couple more tests last night when I got home from work. I wanted to see if my 2 TV sets had anything to do with the problem (overscan), so I decided to swap places of my 2 DVD players. I found out that the TV sets have nothing to do with the shaking of the video, but the DVD players themselves. These were my findings:

    1. The Sony one, regardless of which TV is attached to, plays a shaky video, but displays it in widescreen mode if edited with IfoAR2WS prior to burning.
    2. The Apex DVD player regardless of which TV set is attached to, plays the video perfectly if shot in full frame mode, and no shaking… but if shot in widescreen mode, it tries to fill the screen and it results in a stretched out version of the original video. (maybe this problem could be solved if widescreen is included in the program without having to use IfoAR2WS)

    These findings to me, rule out the over-scanning theory on my particular issue.

    Well the "video shaking" issue is a funny. my recommendation is to use a standalone encoder on your source files so that you have more control over your conversion to mpeg.
    I guess I do not know what a standalone encoder is. I am using what a lot of people from this site use to capture the video from the camcorder. I used to use WinDV, and now I am using DVIO.

    Your sources have a very high bitrate and maybe this is causing the problem.
    Let me show my ignorance on bitrate since I do not know anything about it:
    The only part of one of the functions of the camera that talks about bitrate, is the sound. I have the option to choose from 12 bit or 16 bit, and I have been shooting at the highest. Is this what you are taking about? If not, and assuming I find a software that provides the control feature about bitrates, what sort of bitrate should I be going for?

    If you are not satisfied, drop me an email and i will cancel the registration & refund you
    I was hoping it did not come to that.
    Nowadays everything is gearing towards widescreen TVs, camcorders also come with the option to shoot in widescreen mode, and soon enough full-frame will be obsolete. It is inevitable, just like DVD technology over VHS tapes.
    I guess what I am trying to ask is if there will be anytime soon an option on SVCD2DVD to be able to convert a widescreen AVI file into a widescreen DVD without having to use IfoAR2WS.
    Chris, I do not know if this is in your plans or simply put, “it is just not going to happen”.
    An ETA of the fix (if any planned out) will get me to stick around and perhaps it will also get you more subscribers, otherwise, I will painfully have to try my luck somewhere else.

    Thank you.
    Will
    Quote Quote  



Similar Threads

Visit our sponsor! Try DVDFab and backup Blu-rays!