Star Wars UNALTERED Original Trilogy Released

[j1d10t]

Now, if you ask the people in the UK that saw that cut of Episode II they would probably say the US has a different version with an additional scene/part (even though it's only about 1 second long). Who's right?

George Luacs, thats who

Very true

Honestly it depends on what you can purchase officialy. Thus if there are going to have UK and US versions of Episode II on DVD then you are correct in saying there are two versions of Episode II.

This is what we are talking about, what versions people can purchase on DVD. I fully understand Theater anomolies such as this but when it comes time to releasing the film on DVD, there generally is only one version of the movie released, typically followed by directors cut and whatever else the studios can think of.

In case of the original Star Wars trilogy, there were only 3 versions. We can split hairs and say that the original original version of Star Wars did not say "Episode IV - A New Hope" in the opening sequence but that's superficial. The rest of the content remained unchanged. No Jaba da Hut, no CGI added extra characters, no cgi enhanced special effects.

But what about the VHS version of the OT released in other countries? Can anyone here list any differences between those and the VHS versions released here in the US? Anyone? They might be different than the ones you could buy in the US. Then again maybe not. I can't say for sure as I've never seen any of the releases outside the US. So all I'm saying is that it's kind of hard to say which is the "unaltered" original, because there have been so many variations either because of the country it was released in or the print that was sent to the theater - the "unaltered" OT version that is being released on DVD might be different than the one you remember seeing when you were younger.... The same could be said for the VHS releases.

[RLT69]

Just the fact that the original "Star Wars" from 1977(?) cannot be found under that title TODAY is stupid enough for me not to give a rats ass about sequels/prequels or any other incarnation.

I'm don't know what search engine you are using but if you are using www.imdb.com you will get results using "Star Wars"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/

Also, why are you even posting about it if you don't care? Seems like a complete waste of time.

[RLT69]

So all I'm saying is that it's kind of hard to say which is the "unaltered" original, because there have been so many variations either because of the country it was released in or the print that was sent to the theater - the "unaltered" OT version that is being released on DVD might be different than the one you remember seeing when you were younger.... The same could be said for the VHS releases.

You bastard

That's a very good point. I wondered if anyone cataloged that. I guess Ii'm hoping the version they release was the version shown in US theaters circa 1977 and not the one released in Belgium in 1981 :P

[j1d10t]

That's a very good point. I wondered if anyone cataloged that. I guess Ii'm hoping the version they release was the version shown in US theaters circa 1977 and not the one released in Belgium in 1981 :P

Very true

although it might be interesting to see what "version" they got Hell, I'd be interesting in seeing any version that wasn't shown in the US Just to see what, if anything, is different - I love trying to pick out the differences in versions for any movie.

[RLT69]

Hell, I'd be interesting in seeing any version that wasn't shown in the US smile.gif Just to see what, if anything, is different - I love trying to pick out the differences in versions for any movie.

Damn that could be the next DVD release - all the scenes from all the different Star Wars releases not shown in the US release - presented in a deleted scenes type fashion.

:P

Stop the insanity, I say kick it up a knotch!

[DereX888]

Talking about "original, unaltered" version/release of SW: THERE AINT SUCH THING.
It all depends on the country and year you were watching it as a baby

There are at least two different prints of the original Star Wars in circulation. One definite difference between them is that the brief scene in the Death Star corridor where Chewbacca roars and "frightens" a little messenger droid is missing. This scene was NOT in the "opening day" version.

When Obi-Wan makes a call to scare away the Tusken Raiders, it has been changed, due to sounding too closely like a dew back scream.

There were three audio mixes released in 1977, each one featured some slight differences to the previous release as director George Lucas decided upon minor changes as each was being prepared. In 1981 two of the three versions were updated to include the "A New Hope" subtitle - the version not updated was the one with Beru's original voice. Later on the laserdisc release featured a fourth audio mix (combining elements from the previous mixes) and the 1997 Special Edition and 2004 DVD release feature more changes (both audio and visual). This means that (excluding TV edits) there have been at least EIGHT different versions of Star Wars to date

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and there is much more.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/alternateversions

Personally, I think the first 'original' version I' have (LD version) where Han Solo ruthlessly shot the scumbag alien in the bar first, is the best.
But I like the additions and better CGIs in the SE version from 1997.
ANyway you people shouldn't complain about Lucas trying to make it better, or at least up to his own vision how it should have been looking from begining.
Its HIS movies, not yours.
No one force you to watch'em, or buy'em :O

[hech54]

Just the fact that the original "Star Wars" from 1977(?) cannot be found under that title TODAY is stupid enough for me not to give a rats ass about sequels/prequels or any other incarnation.

I'm don't know what search engine you are using but if you are using www.imdb.com you will get results using "Star Wars"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/

I like how they show the movie poster and not the DVD that says Star Wars on it....thanks for proving my point for me.

[DereX888]

Just the fact that the original "Star Wars" from 1977(?) cannot be found under that title TODAY is stupid enough for me not to give a rats ass about sequels/prequels or any other incarnation.

I'm don't know what search engine you are using but if you are using www.imdb.com you will get results using "Star Wars"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/

I like how they show the movie poster and not the DVD that says Star Wars on it....thanks for proving my point for me.

There are thousands of movie that dont have their own dvd releases and were released in a bundles or collections.
Heck, there is even more movies that were never relesed on anything else but theatrical reels.
So what exactly is your point?

[offline]

Sorry Adam,

This is not news as defined by the sticky. Please read what is, and what is not, accepted in Latest News.

thanks

[yoda313]

Wow this thread has seen a lot of action!!!!

Actually there wer at least 4 vhs releases in total:

The FIRST one (the absolute original with old fox video logo - non thx).

The SECOND one - (The final original edition with thx remastering but NO special edition).

The First Special Edition release (the first one after the 97 theatrical special edition release).

The 2000 release simply called Star Wars but really the special edition.

Yes I will be buying this. I'm planning on selling my vhs collection and buying the new set.

[dvdguy4]

Theres even talk of another box set coming soon. All 6 and all enhanced "AGAIN"

Where did you read this? Everything I have seen from Lucas has said that he considers the lastest release to be the definitive and final version of the trilogy and that they will not be changed again.

Have you seen "within a minute" on the Sith bonus dvd? Yoda has been replaced by a new digital yoda in the phantom menace. When I find the link Ill post it. "UPDATED"
You can take it as you wish but some of these changes wouldnt surprise me .

http://www.starwarsaddiction.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=508&pid=1902&st=0&#entry1902

[richdvd]

So many great movies that I can't find/were never released to DVD and more of this Star Wars crap?
In-freaking-credible.

So true....

[hech54]

Just the fact that the original "Star Wars" from 1977(?) cannot be found under that title TODAY is stupid enough for me not to give a rats ass about sequels/prequels or any other incarnation.

I'm don't know what search engine you are using but if you are using www.imdb.com you will get results using "Star Wars"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/

I like how they show the movie poster and not the DVD that says Star Wars on it....thanks for proving my point for me.

There are thousands of movie that dont have their own dvd releases and were released in a bundles or collections.
Heck, there is even more movies that were never relesed on anything else but theatrical reels.
So what exactly is your point?

Lets try this in English this time:
I cannot purchase the movie I saw in a theatre back in 1977(and liked by the way) called Star Wars on DVD. The DVD's out today do not have the original title of the movie I saw in a theatre....that movie was simply called Star Wars.

[adam]

The DVD's out today do not have the original title of the movie I saw in a theatre....that movie was simply called Star Wars.

Is that honestly an issue for you? The only time you'd even see it is on the opening crawl and on the DVD packaging. Also in this case I don't consider it an alteration as much as a correction. I guess maybe with all of the risk and doubt behind the film those sequels and prequels didn't seem likely so the movie was simply Star Wars. But once it was successful you HAD to rename it otherwise you'd have:

Star Wars I, Star Wars II, Star Wars III, Star Wars, Star Wars V, Star Wars VI. That would be retarded. As for adding the ANH, ESB, ROTJ subheadings, well I guess that's a matter of opinion but its damn repetitive without it.

[DereX888]

Lets try this in English this time:
I cannot purchase the movie I saw in a theatre back in 1977(and liked by the way) called Star Wars on DVD. The DVD's out today do not have the original title of the movie I saw in a theatre....that movie was simply called Star Wars.

I think Adam already replied best, but still, somehow I can't believe you are so picky just because of the title?!
What about foreign movies, mainly from countries not using latin characters - do you skip them as well when they have their english title added or replaced in the opening credits?
c'mon...

If this DVD contains unaltered version, a copy of one of few prints that were in circulation in 1977, then it is the same movie you've seen back then.
(unless all you wanna see from this movie is just the crawling title at the begining, then yes, you won't see these frames same as you saw in 1977).

So many great movies that I can't find/were never released to DVD and more of this Star Wars crap?
In-freaking-credible.

So true, unfortunately.

[jimmalenko]

I hope all the Star Wars addicts can see how much money Lucas is bleeding you for.

Not to stir up the most passionate of the geek patrol, but at the end of the day it's only science fiction

This is not news as defined by the sticky. Please read what is, and what is not, accepted in Latest News.

With all due respect , if we're splitting hairs, it doesn't belong in Off-Topic either, since it is video-related

[Conquest10]

So they're finally coming out with the originals? The only thing I don't like is that they are both the new and original versions. I already have the 2004 DVD. Why not just the original? Wait... I think I just answered my own question. I will wait a while.

[zzyzzx]

I still cant believe that this thread got to the second page before Yoda313 was able to post to it.

[richdvd]

Well....the geeks will be creaming their pants over this...
I wouldn't pay $5 for this Trilogy.

[j1d10t]

The DVD's out today do not have the original title of the movie I saw in a theatre....that movie was simply called Star Wars.

Wow. That's serious I personally don't care what they call them - "Star Wars", "Episode IV", "A New Hope", etc. In fact, when friends and I e-mail we usually just refer to them as "TPM", "ATOC", "ROTS", "ANH", "ESB" and "ROTJ"....

Remember, Star Wars is just a name.....

"A rose by any other name...."

I wouldn't pay $5 for this Trilogy.

Nor I for the LOTR trilogy. But to each his own

[yoda313]

I still cant believe that this thread got to the second page before Yoda313 was able to post to it.

I was handicapped - it was posted late at night and I don't post in forums at work so it had already exploded online before I had a chance to get in early.

[VideoTechMan]

Oh for Luke's sake!


As an aside:
Did anyone catch the episode of Robot Chicken were they did a parody of Star Wars - scene from Empire where Vadar tells Luke, he is Luke's father, then goes on to tell him the force is a bunch of bacteria, that he built C3PO, etc...Luke gets up and says, "Look if you are not going to try, I'm leaving..."

I think the voice was actually Mark Hamill's. .

Yes, I saw that episode of Robot Chicken, and according to the end credits, it was indeed Mark Hamill's voice.

[SingSing]

I also saw Mark Hamill credited as one of the voice talent in Castle in the sky.

For Luke sake, is the right tone of speech, for anythings Star Wars. It always being a religon like things, either you for it or against it.

If you spilt this thread into "for" and "against" anything star wars, then we will find peace in the force. oops, I am giving myself away.

[yoda313]

Anybody know when you can preorder these?? I'm not going to sell off my vhs set until I know I can get my hands on the untouched dvds.

[adam]

Mark Hamill has done an insane amount of voice over work, much more than his live action work. If you read any interviews with him he's bitter as hell about it too. Star wars made him and broke him. He was too typecast after that to do anything other than sci fi, and even then he mostly had to take obscure jobs like video games and such.

[DereX888]

I never like Mark Hamill as an actor, nor his character in SW. I was a Han Solo fan when I was a kid, and when I grew up I prefer Darth Vader since

[rbatty11]

This is funny.. We have one SW fan that says there were 2 VHS versions.. then another who says there were 4(?) versions... then you can't get a version that has the original title of the movie in the rolling credits?? (wtf?!). Guess that's for a future release on DVD or HD-DVD?? "Original Title..RESTORED!". It's all a $$ sham.. then again, most everything is.

But admittedly, I'm no different with Blade Runner (if those damned hollywood shysters would get their heads out of their butts and get the SE released). Guess we all choose our 'poison'.

[dphirschler]

For instance, Mark Hamill did the voice for the Joker in the Batman Animated series.


Darryl

[akrako1]

For instance, Mark Hamill did the voice for the Joker in the Batman Animated series.


Darryl

And played "The Prankster" in the live-action Flash TV Show from the 90's...

[j1d10t]

Have you seen "within a minute" on the Sith bonus dvd? Yoda has been replaced by a new digital yoda in the phantom menace. When I find the link Ill post it. "UPDATED"
You can take it as you wish but some of these changes wouldnt surprise me .

http://www.starwarsaddiction.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=508&pid=1902&st=0&#entry1902

In the Star Wars Insider (the fan club magazine) Rob Coleman said that the only reason they did the digital Yoda scenes from Episode I was for practice between Episode II and Episode III. Lucas has said that he has no plans to replace the Yoda puppet in Episode I with a digital Yoda. Just as he's said he has no plans to replace the Yoda puppet in ESB and ROTJ with a digital Yoda.

Then again Lucas also said he wouldn't release the non-special edition trilogy on DVD

I never like Mark Hamill as an actor, nor his character in SW.

Both times I've gotten Mark Hamill's autograph at the Comic-Con International he's been a really nice guy. He stopped to talk with the people in line, posed for pictures.... He woulnd't sign anything Star Wars, but other than that he was really nice. Carrie Fisher on the other hand..... She kept going on about her ex-husband, how old she's looking, how life gets so much worse when you're older.... And her mood swings were really weird.