JVC DRM100S - Does it produce video or film based dvd's?

[edDV]

Yes but you need a to convert YPbPr to S-video

How would i do that?? do you mean get the 6412 to output widescreen via s-video? it doesnt do this by default?

It only outputs 480i letterbox on S-Video but this is what I PVR record.

find a DVD recorder that accepts YPbPr in widescreen mode.

which ones do this and produce good PQ also??

I dunno. Mute point. The 6412 won't output widescreen 480i anyway.

Seems odd ...

Odd but that is the way it is.

[edDV]

As for watching 16:9 content that doesn't carry a 16:9 switch...don't 4:3 TV sets in US have a 16:9 manual switch that you can use if the automatic switching doesn't work...almost all post-1995 4:3 TV sets in Europe have the 16:9 switch which practically limits the topa and bottom reach of the electron beam...

Premium 4:3 sets offer similar features here. This is reaching lower end sets as well for example the Toshiba line. They concentrate 480 lines into the 16:9 vertical. For 16:9 PAL this would be 576 lines.

[mikej3131]

As for me, I mostly PVR cap the letterbox S-video with my ADVC-100 while outputting 1080i to the HDTV. The resultuing 480i DVD or computer playback is zoomed to fit the screen either in the Pioneer DVD player or using "expand 4:3" mode on my HDTV.

so you capture video from the motorola to the advc nd then to the dvd recorder?

Anways when I use the TV out on the HDTV I can record these channels in 16x9 WS on the DVD recorder! My TV has audio and video outputs and that is what I am using (tested with composite but there is also a S-Video output).

couldnt u just connect the rf cable to the dvd recorders rf input and recoprd that way with HD?

[FulciLives]

Anways when I use the TV out on the HDTV I can record these channels in 16x9 WS on the DVD recorder! My TV has audio and video outputs and that is what I am using (tested with composite but there is also a S-Video output).

couldnt u just connect the rf cable to the dvd recorders rf input and recoprd that way with HD?

You need the HDTV to tune into the HDTV channels. The tuner of a stand alone DVD recorder has no way of tuning in to the HDTV channels.

@edDV
My Pioneer DVD recorder does not have a FIREWIRE port but I know some DVD recorders do ... so ... can you hook the FIREWIRE out of the cable box to the FIREWIRE in on a DVD recorder to at least get the local HDTV channels in 16x9 WS ? ... for some reason I am guessing the answer is no LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[edDV]

As for me, I mostly PVR cap the letterbox S-video with my ADVC-100 while outputting 1080i to the HDTV. The resultuing 480i DVD or computer playback is zoomed to fit the screen either in the Pioneer DVD player or using "expand 4:3" mode on my HDTV.

so you capture video from the motorola to the advc nd then to the dvd recorder?

I capture to computer hard disk as 480i letterbox and then view it off the computer or store it to DVDR(RW) using the computer's DVD writer. It would be possible to feed this over IEEE-1394 to an external DVD recorder at 1x transfer.

To be clear, I have a 6412 in the living room for general PVR recording and a 6200 (no HDD) in my computer room. I use the ADVC in the computer room for PVR. That and a AIW using MMC or a 550 + BeyondTV.

[edDV]

@edDV
My Pioneer DVD recorder does not have a FIREWIRE port but I know some DVD recorders do ... so ... can you hook the FIREWIRE out of the cable box to the FIREWIRE in on a DVD recorder to at least get the local HDTV channels in 16x9 WS ? ... for some reason I am guessing the answer is no LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

No because the firewire out of the cable box (local channels only here) is MPeg2_ts at HD resolution. The 1080i/720p would need to be converted to 480i DV for the DVD recorder to work.

[Kalos Geros]

edDV, thanks for your earlier answer...

recording 16:9 anamorphic or HDTV 16:9 straight broadcasts to 480i letterbox physically reduces recorded vertical resolution compared to what could be achieved by capturing to anamorphic 480i and let the display correct this to the proper aspect ratio (zoomed picture on a CRt reveals scanlines while zoomed picture on LCD/Plasma introduces scaling problems and blurring...isn't it possible to record to 16:9 anamorphic SD from an HDTV broadcast??? sorry if I'm being a bit ignorant, we don't have HDTV available in my countryyet...

[edDV]

You can only record what is output from the cable box. Expanded 480i letterbox should not show scan lines if the HDTV is any good.

Letterboxed 480i has 0.75x480 = 360 lines if displayed 4:3, but most HDTV models will vertically rescale for 16:9. You won't see scan lines. Vertical resolution will slightly blur but won't be seriously disproportionate to horizontal. (i.e. 720/1.78 = 405 vs 360).

Of course a 480i SD interlaced display (one that doesn't focus vertical scan lines for 16:9) may show scan lines but you indicated a LCD/Plasma progressive display.

[Kalos Geros]

but can't you set the HD cable box to convert to anamorphic SD??? that seems to me like a big oversight...

So an HDTV CRT will physicaly still scan more than 360 lines when zoomed so scanlines won't be visible...that's better but the source is still "just" 360 lines...some time ago we laughed at PCs managing only that much and concluded how TV res was so much better and now we are regressing towards exactly that kind of experience...

[edDV]

It is what it is. The Motorola 6xxx just ouputs downscale as letterbox in a 4:3 480i frame. No full height widescreen except at 720p or 1080i.

I'm not sure if the Scientific Atlanta 8xxx or other boxes do any different.


A PAL model would get 0.75 x 576 or 432 lines

[Kalos Geros]

A PAL model would get 0.75 x 576 or 432 lines

Well, that's close to the full anamorphic NTSC so I should be relieved... :P