dvd9 to dvd5

[Miklodeon]

hi everyone!
ive heard that cce+dvdrebuilder is the best program to shrink dvd9to dvd5 in terms of quality. ive left only the main movie that is about 5,5GB and the audio necessary. how can i make it dvd5 with best quality possible? can anyone give me any tutorial? cause the tutorials ive found they all think i have menus and extras in dvd.

[daamon]

Hi Miklodeon,

Welcome to the forums.

DVDShrink is a good tool - just click on the hyperlink (the tool name links to the tool's page) and you can download it as well as find guides on how to use it. And it's free!

I use it alot and it's good.

Good luck.

[Miklodeon]

hi daamon! ive tryed dvdshrink but quality gets about 58% of overalll quality and when i see the resulting dvdr i see a big difference. ive heard that if the % of the output dvdr is less than 80%(in dvdshrink) we should use cinema craft encoder(its slower but gives better quality). thanks anyway! ill see if anyone more gives any hints.

[daamon]

ive tryed dvdshrink but quality gets about 58% of overalll quality and when i see the resulting dvdr i see a big difference. ive heard that if the % of the output dvdr is less than 80%(in dvdshrink) we should use cinema craft encoder

That's quite a broad statement and may be true in some circumstances, but not true in others. It all depends on the bitrate used in the original DVD - if it was high (up around the 8,000kbps mark) then a compression of 58% could well be OK. If the original bitrate was nearer 5,000kbps then a compression of 70% could turn out to look worse that the 58% one.

Have you used DVDShrink with the "deep analysis" turned on? That makes a difference - including slowing it down.

If you do decide that you'll stick with CCE, then there should still be guides - click on the links in the left pane of the window.

[Miklodeon]

the movie is king kong... and with dvdshrink i see that in dark places the black blocks are sharper. maybe its something with the settings? what do you recommend? sharp (default), smooth, smoother?

[rvelez]

Dvd Shrink is a transcoder. It renoves bits and pieces from the movie.
Dvd-Rebuilder does what the name says. It rebuilds the movie. You may not notice much of a difference between the two on a standard tv but when the time comes and you get a big screen, you'll wish you did all your backups with Dvd-Rb.

[dvdguy4]

I made a backup of my King Kong with dvd shrink and it looked horrible. Wish I never backed up .Horrilbe movie deserves a crappy back up I guess. My personal opinion of course.To each their own.

[jimmalenko]

Here's a few DVDrebuilder guides:

https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=582#582
https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=577#577
https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=839#839

[Miklodeon]

thanks everyone!!! ill convert with dvd-RB then all movies.should i stay with extras and menu?usually i dont even see them... is the difference in quality big?

[rsgars]

I am a huge fan of CCE and use it all the time. Recently as an experiment I used DVD Rebuilder to encode a DVD down around the same compression you are talking about. It looked terrible! I threw the DVD away it looked so bad. This is not the fault of Rebuilder or of CCE. Any time you compress that much the product will look significantly worse than the original. So, think about what your goal is. If you want a movie that fits on one DVD but looks terrible, then okay. But, if you want to back up your movie with higher quality try using DVD Shrink in Reauthor mode and use the Start-Finish feature to split your movie onto two DVD-R.

Or, if you are willing to take a chance on expensive DVD-DL, DVD Decrypter makes it easy to backup onto a DVD-DL. I did my first DL last night using a Verbatim DVD made in Singapore that I picked up at Walmart ($4, youch!!) and it worked perfectly. I just wanted to give DVD-DL a try.

[ROF]

I wouldn't back up King Kong by shrinking it. The quality will significantly decrease by doing so and will destroy the atmosphere of the movie. I'd recommend buying a dual layer DVD and doing a proper back up.

[Miklodeon]

the only DL i can buy in my town are datawrite... i dont know if they are good. but i guess ill have to do that instead of compressing then. does anyone knows at which % we can compress in dvdshrink a movie and get great quality? 85%? cause i have another dvd9 movie (elizabethtown) and only the main movie i get compression around 73%. in this case should i burn in DL, use dvd-RB + CCe or dvdshrink? thanks again for the time you are losing talking to a newbie like me :P

[ROF]

Quality after compression depends on many factors. The two most important ones being the encoding of the source material and your tolerance for missing data. One thing to keep in mind is that compression of video requires the removal of data. When said data is removed only you can determine the point at which too much is removed. In any case, backing up usually means the source material is important to you. Why else would you back it up? In which case, the best way to back up data is through using zero compression.

[fritzi93]

thanks everyone!!! ill convert with dvd-RB then all movies.should i stay with extras and menu?usually i dont even see them... is the difference in quality big?

Perhaps. You should go with your first idea, IMO. Reauthor main movie only in DVDShrink, deselect all but one audio stream, and save UNcompressed. Then load in DVDRebuilder and re-encode.

Good luck.

[rsgars]

the only DL i can buy in my town are datawrite... i dont know if they are good. but i guess ill have to do that instead of compressing then. does anyone knows at which % we can compress in dvdshrink a movie and get great quality? 85%? cause i have another dvd9 movie (elizabethtown) and only the main movie i get compression around 73%. in this case should i burn in DL, use dvd-RB + CCe or dvdshrink? thanks again for the time you are losing talking to a newbie like me :P

If you don't want to take the chance spending money on DL media, use the Start-Finish feature of DVD Shrink to split the movie onto two DVD's. This way you probably don't have to compress the movie at all if you don' want to.

[Miklodeon]

ok. i got enough material to work on. ill see what fits my needs the best. i wanna thanks all for the help you gave me.

[Miklodeon]

sorry to bother again but i got a new question: if i use dvdshrink i tick the option perform deep analyses and quality enhancements. but for the quality enhancements which one is the best option? sharp(default), smooth...?

[fritzi93]

Use the default. At heavy compression, use smooth. My reasoning: Since transcoders can only remove DCT error correction, at heavy compression "sharp" only enhances artifacting and jitter. "Smooth" will disguise and soften errors. But it seems everyone has an opinion on that.

[Miklodeon]

thanks fritzi93. i guess ill burn in DL the movie king kong. the others(compression about 75%) ill use your hints.

[rsgars]

Here is a link to a guide for splitting a DVD-9 to two DVD-5. I hope it's okay to post this link.

http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/48/59/