TYG03 Sony DVR-R at Staples: 50 for $14.94

[Bix]

Staples has 50 disc spindles of Sony DVD+/-R on sale for $14.94 each plus tax through April 22. I went in to get some today and noticed that all of the 16x -Rs were Made in Japan while the 16x +Rs were Made in Taiwan. They had a spindle of 8x +R mixed in and those were also made in Japan. So I took 4 spindles of the MIJ -Rs. I just checked out the media ID in DVD Decrypter and it's TYG03, so you're getting a helluva deal on 16x Taiyo Yuden discs.

[handyguy]

True, but you can get 100 TY 8x for $31, free shipping from meritline.com

Btw, those disks you bought, just look at the plastic thing on the top if its round they are from Taiwan.

[ROF]

8x Vs. 16x? I'll take the 16x at the same price.

[bokkasrealm]

I'll take the 8X. According to the community they are more solid than the 16X.

[ROF]

Which community said that? I've been burning 16x right along without any problems.

[TBoneit]

True, but you can get 100 TY 8x for $31, free shipping from meritline.com

Btw, those disks you bought, just look at the plastic thing on the top if its round they are from Taiwan.

OTOH these are Tys 8X or 16X for $29.88 a hundred and yoy can take them home right away. SO I'm trying to see how paying more and having to wait for the delivery is better?

You only need to look for the MIJ markings. I had posted this on Sunday with the media codes showing that the +R & -R MIJ were Tys.

[ROF]

What's this about a round plastic thingie?

[thevoelk]

I think he means the little circular sponge that's on the top of the spindle. I remember reading somewhere some companies use either a hex or octal shaped foam, not a circular. You know, the round thingy that your teething kid or puppy chew on (at least mine do).

[ROF]

I dislike those very much. I can't begin to tell you how many drives I see in the shop which have these crammed inside. Some people don't know they are there and put a disc in with the little foam thingie stuck to the disc. Amazing! I've never seen them in any other shape but round though.

[TBoneit]

I've got one home that has points like a star but many more than a star has. I've also got some that are really large over 3" across

[lordsmurf]

ROF, 8x TY are more stable than 16x TY. Any 8x tends to be better than it's 16x counterpart. But I will admit we're nitpicking, for the most part. I will advise all discs be burnt a half-speed under. Do those 8x TY DVD-R at 6x and the 16x TY DVD-R at 12x.

Anyway, the "round thingie" does not mean Taiwan. The words "made in Taiwan" means Taiwan. My last YUDEN000T02 DVD+R 8x 50-pack had a round one. Those are "made in Japan" clearly written on package. That round vs octagon rule does not work so well.

[kschang]

One more thing... I was just in CompUSA and was browsing the DVD media section. The 50-pack Sony DVD media are made in Japan, but the 100-pack were made in Taiwan. So, beware, and read the package.

[OneSickPup]

The octagonal spacer has no significance in DVD+R Sony media. I have purchased Sony 8x DVD+R recently with round or octagonal spacers - if they were MIJ - they were YUDEN000-T02. There is no Sony branded DVD+R 16x that is TY media AFAIK.

Sony branded DVD-R is a whole different ballgame and the octagonal spacer is relevant. If you find Sony MIJ with round spacer - the 8x -R will be SONY08D1 and 16x will be SONY16D1. The octagonal spacer MIJ media will be - 8x = TYG02 and 16x = TYG03 respectively. Or at least that has worked for me consistently for the last 30 days. In my city only Bestbuy seems to have the media with octagonal spacers wheras Staples seems to have mostly MIT or MIJ with round spacers. Just my two cents - ymmv.

[handyguy]

I got some of these April 5th & the spacer is round but dvd identifier can't recognize them. Also one set was sticky on the outside, thats pretty weird, just needed to wipe them off.

[lenti_75]

mine are dvd-r and made by Sony.....made in Taiwan.

[ROF]

I've never had a problem burning 16x discs at 16x speed. Reading the data off those discs is also without issue.

[accountwiz]

Just wanted to write and say that the MIJ 16x DVD-R with the octagonal spacer are fantastic Taiyo Yudens (TYG03) with post-burn scans that are gorgeous! I'm burning them at 8x because that's what I burn everything at these days, but I bet 16x burning would be awesome, too. Post-burn scans of my Sony MIJ that have the Sony media ID aren't even close to the quality of these TY.

I loaded up at my Staples and octagonal spacers looked to be in 60-75% of the spindles out for sale. Using a Plextor 716AL for burning. With the coupons floating around, this was a back up the truck sale for me!

[Gen-An]

I haven't noticed much difference in quality between TYG03 and SONY16D1 when burned at full speed on my various burners.

[zzyzzx]

There is an extensive Fatwallet thread about this sale. It indiactes look for the octagonal spacer if you want TY's. The rouns spacers are the MIJ Sony's.

[zzyzzx]

Referenced thread is here:
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=597733

[cal_tony]

Lordsmurf, glad to see that you recomend burning 8x media at 6x. I've been doing that for the longest time with what I think is great results. But I was starting to question my logic in doing so. Even burned a lot of those Playo's at 6x without any problems.Some would stutter in a spot or 2 but all played. Have been burning 16x disks @ 8x so will start to burn these @ 12x.

[zzyzzx]

I am not finding any of the -R's in stock in the stores, only +R's that I can't play in my standalone DVD player. Also, in the 3 Staples I have gone to so far, all are Sony are MIT.

[OneSickPup]

I only have one Staples store within 40 miles and it's been sold out of any Sony media +R, -R, MIJ, MIT or otherwise for over a week now. And I will do without before I attempt a pricematch at BestBuy. Heck I like Verbatim MCC 03RG20 better than TYG03 anyway and it's 14.99 per 50 spindle this week at Bestbuy.

[terryj]

I took the Staples ad to wal-mart to price match, and now Wal-Mart
is carrying the "Made in Taiwan" discs!
So I took it over to Circuit City, and they carries the "Made in Japan" discs.
They price matched plus gave me 10% off, so
the 50 packs were $12.60 each!

But when I got home, the DVD Media Inspector said the code
on these were SONY08D1.

But we still rate SONY08D1 as good discs overall, so I'm happy...

[lacywest]

Ha ha ...

We sure are picky huh ?? ...

Us guys ... we know our stuff ... it is surprising how many people will buy the funky stuff ... not realizing they are buying junk.

I use to buy the CompUSA DVD-Rs ... but not anymore.

I like those 100 pack ... value packs of TYs ... nice and simple ... all silver.

I bought two 50 packs of Fuji DVD-Rs recently ... they're okay but there is a lot of stuff written/embossed on them ... gets in the way when I'm writing what show I've recorded on them.

[chas0039]

I've never had a problem burning 16x discs at 16x speed. Reading the data off those discs is also without issue.

You must not be scanning or you would see the wisdom in lordsmurf's comments. TYG03 already has huge PIE and PIF errors when burned on almost any burner at 8X or 12X. Burning at 16X just increases those errors. The discs are still playable on most players but could have problems over time or on other equipment. Additionally, media burned at lower speeds has a longer lifespan.

Just because you have not experienced problems yet does not mean they don't exist.

[Gen-An]

You must not be scanning or you would see the wisdom in lordsmurf's comments. TYG03 already has huge PIE and PIF errors when burned on almost any burner at 8X or 12X. Burning at 16X just increases those errors. The discs are still playable on most players but could have problems over time or on other equipment. Additionally, media burned at lower speeds has a longer lifespan.

Just because you have not experienced problems yet does not mean they don't exist.

I wouldn't call this a huge amount (TYG03@16x burned with Pioneer A09 fw 1.58)

[BoilerUp]

It must vary from burner to burner. Here's the craptacular PI error graph I got from my burner.

[Gen-An]

Wow, you actually sat and waited for that thing to scan at 1X? If you want some quicker and more in-depth results, crossflash that 810A into the drive it really is, a BenQ DW1640 (I did with mine). That way you can select more scanning speeds and it will report PIF errors and display the jitter graph.