Subtitle adding Software that works please!!!

[lapetite_66]

Hello:

I not a novice at burning but I am a novice when it comes to adding subtitles to files. I've tried three programs so far with no luck.

First...

1. Subtitle Processor 7.52 - Everything seemed to be working fine until I tried to add in the subtitle files in the last step and got the error message "Can't creat substance of Subtitle Source - filter probably not installed". What filter!?

Second...


2. VirtualdubMod - I used the VirtualdubMod and was able to add the subtitles but there were problems with the playback. There was the problem of delays in the dialogue and the subtitles and then there was the problem of seeing the actors speaking but there was no sound or the sound was delayed.

Last but not least...


3. AVI-Mux GUIv1.75 - I downloaded and installed AVI-Mux GUIv1.75. I added the necessary files (video and subtitle). However, when I play the file back the video is okay except the subtitles are missing. What am I doing wrong???

Is it me or am I just having a string of bad luck???

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[Saito_Hajime]

If you already have a subtitle file like a .srt file and trying to add it to your video, follow the procedure on this guide http://www.divxland.org/permanentsubtitling.php

If you are creating a subtitle file, I recommend using Subtitle Workshop

[lapetite_66]

If you already have a subtitle file like a .srt file, follow the procedure on this guide http://www.divxland.org/permanentsubtitling.php

If you are creating a subtitle file, I recommend using Subtitle Workshop

Hello Saito_Hajime

Thank you for the information however, I have alreadly tried using virutaldub but there were problems with the output file. Delayed audio, freezing frames and let's not forget the borders at the top and bottom that I didn't want.

If you can tell me how to eliminate those above mentioned issues that would be great...

Is there a new version of virtualdub??? I downloaded the one linked to this site and when installing it suggested the AVI-Mux "Software but I had problems with that too.

I'm doomed

[Saito_Hajime]

Thank you for the information however, I have alreadly tried using virutaldub but there were problems with the output file. Delayed audio, freezing frames and let's not forget the borders at the top and bottom that I didn't want.

If you can tell me how to eliminate those above mentioned issues that would be great...

Is there a new version of virtualdub??? I downloaded the one linked to this site and when installing it suggested the AVI-Mux "Software but I had problems with that too.

I'm doomed

Yes, that's the version of Virtualdub that I was talking about. What media player are to using when playing the finished item?

Anyway, here are a few tips I can provide you. Try using the "direct stream copy" option under the audio. About the borders, go to the video, then filters, click the add button, and look for the "resize" filter and double click it. On the window that will appear, the letterbox option should be unchecked. You don't have to use AVI-Mux because Virtualdub can do the audio encoding.

[celtic_druid]

Sounds like Subtitle Processor is muxing the subs via dshow and it requires Gabest's subtitle source filter. You can find my compile at: http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/Media%20Player%20Classic/external%20filters/unicode/...titlesource.7z

Really though muxing subs (assuming that is what it is doing, definatly what AVI-Mux GUI does) has only one advantage and that is that you get a single file. It is less compatible than external subs.

VirtualdubMod should work ok as long as your subs are matching. Sounds like you have desynced the audio though.

AVI-Mux GUI. All you are doing is taking the subtitle and muxing it as an internal stream/track. Still requires requires a subtitle render for playback.

[Faustus]

LETS NOT USE HUGE TEXT FOR NO REASON PLS K THX

[lapetite_66]

LETS NOT USE HUGE TEXT FOR NO REASON PLS K THX

I didn't know there were rules concerning font...

Thanks for your input.

[kschang]

There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding regarding "soft" subtitles. I presume you are talking about embedded subtitles in the file itself like AVI or MKV, and you want to create/display those right?

Or do you want hardsub (permanent sub) instead?

Displaying softsubs have at least two approaches. The usual way is using VobSub/DirectVobSub/VSFilter. It loads dynamically when a movie is played and a subtitle file is detected, then it overlays the subtitle onto the DirectShow display window. The player software doesn't even know about it. However, you usually have to explicitly turn ON the subtitle.

The other way is your player supports subtitles by itself, such as BSPlayer or MPC. However, those are usually from external files, not embedded.

So please explain what exactly are you TRYING to do. What do you have to start, and what have you done so far. Your initial message only explained what you tried. You have yet to really tell us what are you REALLY trying to do.

[lapetite_66]

Sounds like Subtitle Processor is muxing the subs via dshow and it requires Gabest's subtitle source filter. You can find my compile at: http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/Media%20Player%20Classic/external%20filters/unicode/...titlesource.7z

Really though muxing subs (assuming that is what it is doing, definatly what AVI-Mux GUI does) has only one advantage and that is that you get a single file. It is less compatible than external subs.

VirtualdubMod should work ok as long as your subs are matching. Sounds like you have desynced the audio though.

AVI-Mux GUI. All you are doing is taking the subtitle and muxing it as an internal stream/track. Still requires requires a subtitle render for playback.

Thank you celtic_druid I appreciate you taking time to answer my questions.

You said that the Subtitle Processor needs Gabest's subtitle source filter? Okay. I have accessed your link and wonder of all wonders I had that filter already. The problem is that I don't know where to install it.

Question two, when you say using AVI-Mux makes a single file does that mean that you are starting from scatch and making your own file OR are you using a file that's already in existence(the type I used) and embedding the subtitle files within it?

I'm confused and my techno lingo isn't all that great.

[lapetite_66]

There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding regarding "soft" subtitles. I presume you are talking about embedded subtitles in the file itself like AVI or MKV, and you want to create/display those right?

Or do you want hardsub (permanent sub) instead?

Displaying softsubs have at least two approaches. The usual way is using VobSub/DirectVobSub/VSFilter. It loads dynamically when a movie is played and a subtitle file is detected, then it overlays the subtitle onto the DirectShow display window. The player software doesn't even know about it. However, you usually have to explicitly turn ON the subtitle.

The other way is your player supports subtitles by itself, such as BSPlayer or MPC. However, those are usually from external files, not embedded.

So please explain what exactly are you TRYING to do. What do you have to start, and what have you done so far. Your initial message only explained what you tried. You have yet to really tell us what are you REALLY trying to do.

Hello kschang:

Sorry if I wasn't clear about what I am trying to do. Okay I will explain to the best of my ability...

I have two separate files; the movie file and the subtitle file.

What I am trying to do is take the two files(movie & subtitles) and combine them into one permanent file so when I encode the file and play it back on my dvd player the subtitles are there. If that is what is meant by a hardsub then yes, that is what I want.

Thanks,

[Baldrick]

if you convert to dvd use convertxtodvd and add the video and subs and you will get real dvd subtitles.

[lapetite_66]

if you convert to dvd use convertxtodvd and add the video and subs and you will get real dvd subtitles.

Thanks,

Question, would that process be faster than encoding with Nero 7 Ultra? It takes 3plus hours with that Nero and that is so tedious.

[kschang]

Doubt it would, since "hardsub" means you have subtitles that canNOT be turned off, and thus requires re-encoding each and every frame.

If you want true DVD-style subs that can be turned on/off, use AVI2DVD and add the two files separately.

[Faustus]

LETS NOT USE HUGE TEXT FOR NO REASON PLS K THX

I didn't know there were rules concerning font...

Thanks for your input.

Its not a rule, its just a courtesy. Thus no warning or anything issued.

[celtic_druid]

If you are re-encoding then muxing the subs is just a waste of time. Giving the movie and the sub the same name (different extension) has the same effect.

[lapetite_66]

LETS NOT USE HUGE TEXT FOR NO REASON PLS K THX

I didn't know there were rules concerning font...

Thanks for your input.

Its not a rule, its just a courtesy. Thus no warning or anything issued.

Got it.

[lapetite_66]

If you are re-encoding then muxing the subs is just a waste of time. Giving the movie and the sub the same name (different extension) has the same effect.

Thanks will do.

[lapetite_66]

Thank you for the information however, I have alreadly tried using virutaldub but there were problems with the output file. Delayed audio, freezing frames and let's not forget the borders at the top and bottom that I didn't want.

If you can tell me how to eliminate those above mentioned issues that would be great...

Is there a new version of virtualdub??? I downloaded the one linked to this site and when installing it suggested the AVI-Mux "Software but I had problems with that too.

I'm doomed

Yes, that's the version of Virtualdub that I was talking about. What media player are to using when playing the finished item?

Anyway, here are a few tips I can provide you. Try using the "direct stream copy" option under the audio. About the borders, go to the video, then filters, click the add button, and look for the "resize" filter and double click it. On the window that will appear, the letterbox option should be unchecked. You don't have to use AVI-Mux because Virtualdub can do the audio encoding.

Hi Saito:

My OS is XP Pro (answering your earlier question)

I did follow your directions and the operation was very quick but the finished product didn't have the subtitles. Maybe I did something wrong.

This might be a stupid question but is it necessary for both the movie and the subtitles to have the same name example Fearless.avi & Fearless.srt, what about if the name has one name example Fearless.avi and the subtitles are named fless.srt??? Would that make a difference? That wasn't the case but I just had to ask for future reference.

Thanks,

[kschang]

It depends on the player. Most players are just smart enough to look for a subtitle file of the same name but different extension.