Display and/or capture audio, video, and closed caption at same time?

[Ghtpua]

Hi,

I have a capture card. What kind of software will capture closed caption (subtitles), audio, and video from cable TV at the same time? Please and thank you! If there is not software that will do this, is there at least software that will display closed caption, audio, and video at the same time? Please and thank you!

Thanks!

[vhelp]

You might want to consider reading this post that I made on this topic.

(I haven't gotten back to that post because of other busy duties in
life, plus other projects)

But, it might answer your question in the long run

--> Closed Captions - under ATI MMV v7.1, from CC window ?

-vhelp 3879

[Nelson37]

Yes, MMC will do it, BUT -

You must capture in VCR format. Dictates 44K audio. VCR file not accepted by any prog except ATI Library, which can convert to MPG, but this strips out the captions.

Then extract the caption as a binary file using Graphedit. Requires real-time playback.

Then convert the binary to a subtitle format using McPoodles tools. Very fast.

MMC will also display the captions either in the video window or in a seperate window. It will capture the captions during a standard capture, and save them as a text file or various formats, but SFAIK none of these formats are usable by any other video program.

Have detailed this process in other posts, been working on a guide but have yet to develop a really workable method for editing commercial breaks from the converted subtitle file. It is doable but frustrating and not really worth it for the effort.

Also be aware that the captions are far from perfect. Many missing lines, mispellings, etc. Quality seems related to type of production, theatrical movies seem to be best. I wonder if the captions have been converted from subtitle files for these?

[vhelp]

Also be aware that the captions are far from perfect. Many missing lines, mispellings, etc. Quality seems related to type of production, theatrical movies seem to be best. I wonder if the captions have been converted from subtitle files for these?

Maybe this is dependant upon the signal and it's strength on the card.

I remember, (when I was playing around w/ captions) how, when I first started
her up, it would choke for a few lines, like misspelled words, etc. I consluded
that this was a passing this, where you jump in over someone, and they kind of
knudge you behind them - no jumping ahead, allowed. Anyway.

But, while I let it continue, I noticed that it fixed itself.

Also, when commercials come on, and then leave, finally back into the tv
program, the captions would work fine - not broken or misspelled words.

Regarding the link I posted above here..

Back then, (around early Dec/2005) I was researching this because I wanted to
do some Laserdisc caption/subtitling around. But, I never did follow up on
this endeavor. I got too envolved in many other things. Still on the back of
my mind though.

Thanks,
-vhelp 3883

[Nelson37]

Errors seem consistent with what I am seeing on the direct connection from sat box to TV. I do not have captions displayed on TV all the time, so have made only a few direct comparison. But the frequency of mispellings, missing lines of dialog, etc, seem roughly consistent. High dollar movies seem much better whether viewed on premium or standard channels, late-night or afternoon, so I don't think it is related to signal strength, at least not to any great extent. Rarely see major corruption on either method, outside of thunderstorm-related signal interruption.

These errors are not all that frequent, it is only in comparison with a near-perfect source such as DVD subtitles that the problem is really apparent. Kinda like how a good SVCD seems OK until you compare it to the DVD source, on a good-sized TV while watching carefully.

[vhelp]

I'd even be interest (out of curiosity purposes) to test my card out on
my Analog Cable. I didn't have cable back in Dec/2005. And, I *would*
test whatever channel you had in mind, since I have my ATI Rage Fury Pro
card in my setup. But, I still use the MMC v7.1 because that is what
was originally on my CD installation disk.. and they work

I've never tested out on my Laserdisc player. Dont' even know if my
LD player will output captions for that matter
(but, I'm bored over here)

I was mearly curious, is all.
-vhelp 3885