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    i don't know much about video encoding but is procoder good or bad to use if i'm going to convert mpeg,avi into divx.
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    AFAIK, Canopus Procoder is for encoding to mpeg. For encoding to DivX, see www.divx.com
    There's also room for confusion as DivX is both a video codec (often found in AVI container) and (recently) a container format (like AVI). When you say "convert to DivX" - do you mean to the DivX container or DivX codec?
    divX in AVI container is easily created with VirtualDub.

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    I believe ProCoder can convert from and to pretty much anything you have codecs for. ProCoder 2 certainly has Divx templates for output, and installs 5.2 be default. As it uses the divx codec for encoding, it will be no better or worse than anything else that lets you encode with this codec. The quality is really in the settings you use. If you have the right settings, you can get as good a quality output from virtualdub
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    Canopus Procoder is a multi format encoder - the express version is only mpeg2 ... why procoder costs so much more ...

    it does an ok job to divx (which it is shipped with, it installs divx on install,. and you get a lic for btw) , but sometimes updating the version it ships with can be problematic .... not always ..

    only time i would use procoder to divx is when using procoder to encode to multiple formats at once - or using the watch container .. (batch) ... otherwise i would use virtualdub as mentioned .. it is rare that i would actually encode anything to divx anyway -- more often to xvid or h264
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    i don't want so use vdub. and money is not a problem for me so say another app that can encode to divx codec or xvid. i want a software that is fast,, gives the best quality and i simply want the best and i'm ready to pay for it. so plz help me i don.t know much about encoding software i just want the best.
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    then use virtualdub if you want the best (for divx anyway) .....

    procoder will give you no better results and if there is resizing -- virtualdub will be much better
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    what should i use for xvid and is don't want any command line software. i don't like vdub can you plz give me another software that encodes at the same quality or better.

    say what i should use for xvid
    and what i should use for divx.

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    virtualdub (which is not command line) ... for either xvid or divx


    there IS NOTHING BETTER QUALITY WISE (non command line)


    Hell -- major studios use it -- you can also !
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    problem is - many other encoders dont do good resizing and/or do not handle multipass well
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    If cost is no object -- you can use Digital Fusion for prep and Procoder for encoding..

    still not going to be better quality - but you will feel good blowing $6400
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    what is prep?
    is there anything as good as vdub or close to it? could you plz give me more choices instead of vdub and procoder?

    then i can pick one. vdub is slow so i want something faster and for some reason i get errors almost all the time with vdub.
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    thx
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    Originally Posted by sarmin
    i get errors almost all the time with vdub.
    That is almost certainly not due to errors in VirtualDub, but in the source material you feed it. Actually, I've used very few more stable software (commercial as well as freeware) than VirtualDub!

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    MeGUI and Mencoder don't support DivX. SUPER probably doesn't either.
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    SUPER supports both Xvid and Divx for output, assuming you have the codecs installed, of course.
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    Originally Posted by celtic_druid
    MeGUI and Mencoder don't support DivX. SUPER probably doesn't either.

    SUPER does -- but your right about the others ... i was just compiling the list of about everything ....
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    i don't want any vdub or vdub mods. sony vegas is to complicated. divx converter have few settings and thats not good, you can just drag and drog and the push convert. so thats not good.
    i have tested super before and i don't like it. avi.net cant convert xvid to xvid or divx to divx or something like that. dr. divx is good but i think its to slow. but how about powerencoder is that software good compared to vdub or is it bad?. and plz tell me why.
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    powerencoder just converts to avc and i don't want that is want app that can convert to xvid and divx. i want one of the best softwares for this job and i want it to be fast and a software that gives good or the best video quality.
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    Come on now - you've got a list of about every "to DivX/XviD" encoder there is in existance, turning each and every suggestion away for this reason or that. I'd dare say 99.9% of eveyone here use one or the other (probably most of them, once in a while) of the tools mentioned earlier in this thread, when encoding to DivX/XviD
    And stop dreaming for "fast" and "best" - they are mutually exclusive.

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    ok

    this is my last question, is dr.divx good or vdub and why?
    is procoder better than dr.divx and vdub.
    i mean procoder 2
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    look at this site is any of the encoder good here
    http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/convert/intro.htm
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    With the exception of Procoder and VirtualDub, all encoders listed at digitalfaq are mpeg encoders (encode to mpg).
    The quality, when encoding to DivX, is not in what application you use, but how you configure the codec. All DivX encoders use the same codec. The different applications just provide you with different user interfaces to control the codec.

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  24. Originally Posted by BJ_M
    Canopus Procoder is a multi format encoder - the express version is only mpeg2 ... why procoder costs so much more ...
    Procoder Express is a multi format encoder as well. Converts to the following, AVI, DV, MPEG, DIVX, QuickTime, Windows Media, RealMedia, and Raw DV. And yes, it comes with DIVX when you buy PCE.
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    procoder vs dr.divx, what is best. and how good are they compared to vdub.

    thx for your help
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    You can't do a straight comparison. They all have different strengths, and for Divx encoding, they will all output the same quality if configured the same. Ultimately though, it is what suits you. You need to try the demos to see what works best for you, not someone else.
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    Originally Posted by sarmin
    procoder vs dr.divx, what is best. and how good are they compared to vdub.

    thx for your help
    Procoder Express does do DivX and does it as well or better than Dr. DivX. It is not as flexable as Vdub because in Vdub you can choose which DivX codec you want to use.

    You should really be asking which is the best DivX codec! The best in my opinion is He-3 Beta.

    With all that said my strong advice is to walk away from DivX. Unless you are reducing file size for a hand held or for viewing on a small screen it is an absolute waste of time and energy. Leave as mpeg, reduce bitrate until you do not like the quality and cut commercials.
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    so you all say it doesnt matter what software i use and they all give me same quality and speed. you say it depends only on the codec and the settings i use in the codec. is this right.
    if this is rigt can you plz give me a guide to vdub and how to convert divx to xvid. and can you plz give me a guide to xvid and divx settings.
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    Plenty of guides left, under CONVERT.
    Not that I can see any reason for doing DivX to XviD or XviD to DivX - it's only downhill when it comes to video quality in that direction.

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    is virtualdub the best or are the mods better for converting to xvid and divx. and why?
    if the mods are better plz say witch mod.
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