TMPG or Cinema Craft encoder?

[Flesh-G-]

Until now, I'm only able to use TMPG çause of my celly-466.
But in a few weeks, I'll have a Thunderbird. Then I'll
be able to use CC-encoder, which seems to be much much
faster. Is the quality less then TMPG when creating (s)vcd?

[Truman]

CCE does better MPEG-2, TMPG does better MPEG-1, especially for standard VCD. Just my opinion.

[sunmiztres]

I agree with Truman. cce is the best mpeg 2 encoder. it gives the best quality and the time you save is great. Once you go cce you never go back! tmpgenc is a better mpeg1 encoder then cce but i think panasonic is even better then tmpgenc for mpeg1.

[Furble]

Forgive my ignorance but why doesn't CCE work with a celly 466? Does it require a certain CPU speed?

Thanks
Furble

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On 2001-07-18 06:59:54, Flesh-G- wrote:
Until now, I'm only able to use TMPG çause of my celly-466.
But in a few weeks, I'll have a Thunderbird. Then I'll
be able to use CC-encoder, which seems to be much much
faster. Is the quality less then TMPG when creating (s)vcd?
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[iant]

Furble, nope, it's not a speed problem. It's having particular instructions available in your CPU. I have the same limitation with an AMD K6II. Neither it or older Celerons have the SSE2 ( At least I think they're the ones ) instruction set whereas PIIIs, Durons etc. all do. ( Darn it.....more money to spend! )

[Furble]

Thanks Iant!

That makes a lot of sense, got CCE recently and was wondering why it was crashing

Good thing i'm going to Taiwan later this year, gonna upgrade my whole system, too bad its in a few months

Thanks again
Furble

[llew]

For SVCD, CCE's VBR encoding is much better than TMPG, and faster too. But if you are going to use CCE, make sure you have lots of ram (at least 256MB). I have 512MB of CAS2 ram, and CCE takes up about 280MB of ram when it's running. TMPG, on the other hand, uses only about 6MB.

[sunmiztres]

That's funny, i only have 128 mbs of ram and cce runs fine with my computer and i still have enough ram left over to play around with other stuff on the computer while encoding.Just wondering why it's so different for both of us?

[homerpez]

What about MPEG-1 VBR? Like for SeVCD or XVCD?

Supposedly there should be better VBR distribution with CCE here too. I'm trying it out, I don't expect any massive quality diffence, but a little improvement over blociness of TMPGEnc would help..

Anyone tried this? thoughts?

[Truman]

@ homerpez, just have a look at this odd topic
http://www.vcdhelp.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=51174&forum=3

[llew]

sunmiztres, what are your steps/settings for encoding, and also what's your Operating System? I use DVD2AVI->(AVISYNC) AVS->CCE 2.5 (4 pass VBR MPEG2). According to my windows 2000, just cce itself is using 274MB of memory.

[poopyhead]

damn, <i got to cover up my eyes>, <can't read all the tempgenc bashing>.....

anywayz, i believe that tempgenc may be slower...but the quality that it produces can be near DVD quality....i think u guys r prolly using lower bitrates on tempgenc....try encoding movies at avg bitrate of at least 2000 kbit in tempgenc and then determine its quality

[wildcatfan]

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On 2001-07-19 19:00:37, poopyhead wrote:
damn, <i got to cover up my eyes>, <can't read all the tempgenc bashing>.....

anywayz, i believe that tempgenc may be slower...but the quality that it produces can be near DVD quality....i think u guys r prolly using lower bitrates on tempgenc....try encoding movies at avg bitrate of at least 2000 kbit in tempgenc and then determine its quality
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Well They could be like me and trying to get a movie on just 2 CD's. I use LSX 3.5 anyway so I am the odd man out .

Michael

[sunmiztres]

LLEW, I am using the same software programs as you but i usually do a 1 pass vbr or a constant bit rate. I have a 733 mhz pent 3 processor with 128mb ram. When i encode with cce it usually uses about 80% of my ram. I can still fiddle around with my computer a bit while encoding but it is alot slower but i usually do my encoding while i am sleeping or at work. It takes about 3 hours to 4 hours to encode a 90 minute movie doing a constant bit rate or 6 to 7 hours doing a 1 pass vbr.

[ookzDVD]

TMpgEnc is the BEST!

[homerpez]

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Um... I'm gettin' them on ONE CD. SeVCD rules!

Well, kinda...