Annoying Poster Habits And Other Annoying Things That Annoy (Title Change)

[Dv8ted2]

What if the person doesn't know how to assemble a PC?

There are books, magazines, and websites that show you how.

What if they are lazy?

Then they are probably too lazy to get on the net or go to the store to get one in the first place.

What if they live alone and a quadriplegic?

They would be unable to use their hands and fingers to begin with since they are paralyzed. They would not be able to use a computer, thus making this a moot question.

[Doramius]

My point wasn't whether one is better or the other. Anyone with a bit of computer knowledge knows that a home built system is most likely the way to go if you want more bang for the buck. My point was that instead of answering the question, posters go off on another tangent that is not really relevant to the OP's question. What if the person doesn't know how to assemble a PC? What if they are lazy? What if they live alone and a quadriplegic?

As above, anybody who is either a 4 point amputee or is completely paralyzed, is gonna find it difficult to use a computer anyway. If they get the right hardware & software to use the PC, they are gonna need more than either a store bought or inexpensive HomeBuild.

There are also nice and easy instructions these days for building a PC. It's not so hard anymore, but even still you can get someone to build the PC for you (IE: a friend, or relative) and all the equipment has it's own warranty and/or support. They don't need to call you. Someone calls me and says, "My video card isn't working." I tell them to call ATI, or whomever and they'll get you running or send an RMA. Most of the time the problem is fixed over the phone in 5-10 minutes. Call me and we gotta work out a scheduled time for me to come over. I gotta spend 5-10 min. trying to get into the mode of mind to understand what the heck is going on, then troubleshoot with something I may not have ever come in contact with before. After 3 hours they have their computer fixed, but it took 4 days before I could come over.

[MackemX]

What if the person doesn't know how to assemble a PC?

There are books, magazines, and websites that show you how.

not everyone is techie savvy even if they have full instructions. Even so I'd still say you need some degree of ability to build a PC as it's not as simple as reading a book, especially if you've never done it before. It may seem easy to us and we can build them blind folded but it's not really simple, it's just a skill we have learnt over time

What if they are lazy?

Then they are probably too lazy to get on the net or go to the store to get one in the first place.

there's many reasons people buy things prebuilt and not just PC's, lazy being one of them and time restrictions being another

What if they live alone and a quadriplegic?

They would be unable to use their hands and fingers to begin with since they are paralyzed. They would not be able to use a computer, thus making this a moot question.

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whatever gives you that idea? you don't need hands and fingers to use a PC and while helping others I've come across a few people on the net who have special setups to suit their disabilities 8)

[Dv8ted2]

MX, see your pm.

[Doramius]

He didn't read my post either.

[Dv8ted2]

not everyone is techie savvy even if they have full instructions. Even so I'd still say you need some degree of ability to build a PC as it's not as simple as reading a book, especially if you've never done it before. It may seem easy to us and we can build them blind folded but it's not really simple, it's just a skill we have learnt over time.

The magazines, books, and websites have pictures and walk you through building one all the way. Anyone can build their own computer. A monkey could build a computer if he had pictures.

there's many reasons people buy things prebuilt and not just PC's, lazy being one of them and time restrictions being another

That is no excuse. You can take years to build one if you wanted.

whatever gives you that idea? you don't need hands and fingers to use a PC and while helping others I've come across a few people on the net who have special setups to suit their disabilities 8)

On what planet do you not need your fingers and hands to use a computer? You need your fingers to type and your hands to move the mouse.

[Doramius]

On what planet do you not need your fingers and hands to use a computer? You need your fingers to type and your hands to move the mouse.

They do have those funky wands you place on your forehead or hold in your mouth. And they have oral joysticks for mice that you can use your tongue to lieft or right click.

Check out the cost for these though. You're not gonna find a prebuild at Wal-Mart, nor will they be able to do a homeubilt. They are gonna have to call a manufacturer and have some specialty devices installed on it. It isn't gonna be for <$800 either.

[MackemX]

I did see it and being paralyzed doesn't mean you can't use a PC. I had this guy in mind when I wrote my reply and it didn't take long to find him

take a look at wheelie4's post here
http://forum.dvdrbase.info/showthread.php?p=196133#196133

DUDE! I completely overlooked the View menu. Thanks so much for mentioning that. Being paralized from the neck down I use all the keyboard shortcuts as possible. Using a mouse is almost impossible and a trackstick can be a pain in the neck at times (literally). I was manually moving and clicking each + per chapter and cell, lol.

I already knew as he had PM's me previous to posting his disability in the forums. I used to help that guy as much as I could due to his disability and he was always #1 in my priority when I offered support for DVDStripper. I can't believe that over 2 years have passed since then though!

p.s. pretty cool as I'm still a Super Moderator over at DVDRBase, guess I will pop over there a little more to boost my poster powers :P

[Doramius]

I did see it and being paralyzed doesn't mean you can't use a PC. I had this guy in mind when I wrote my reply and it didn't take long to find him

take a look at wheelie4's post here
http://forum.dvdrbase.info/showthread.php?p=196133#196133

DUDE! I completely overlooked the View menu. Thanks so much for mentioning that. Being paralized from the neck down I use all the keyboard shortcuts as possible. Using a mouse is almost impossible and a trackstick can be a pain in the neck at times (literally). I was manually moving and clicking each + per chapter and cell, lol.

I already knew as he had PM's me previous to posting his disability in the forums. I used to help that guy as much as I could due to his disability and he was always #1 in my priority when I offered support for DVDStripper. I can't believe that over 2 years have passed since then though!

p.s. pretty cool as I'm still a Super Moderator over at DVDRBase, guess I will pop over there a little more to boost my poster powers :P

How much was his system and the trackstick and other hardware he uses. It's a custom build by a manufacturer, not a prebuilt from BestBuy.

[MackemX]

How much was his system and the trackstick and other hardware he uses. It's a custom build by a manufacturer, not a prebuilt from BestBuy.

I don't know but surely the additional hardware would probably still plug into any PC and have software to go with it?

wouldn't the default Microsoft onscreen keyboard eliminate the need for a keyboard? (I use it sometimes when I'm too lazy to either pickup or find the keyboard). All you would then need is a mouse input device so I'd reckon you could use a pre-build from Walmart with a special wand or joystick that has the drivers/software with it

I'll admit I was being picky but it's just I was aware that disabled people can still use a PC as long as they have extra hardware/software whereas some people aren't

[Doramius]

True. I know disabled people that use PCs too. But I also know the cost of their equipment. The onscreen keyboard still requires the use of a mouse. someone with only one arm might fint that fine, but a quaddie is gonna find it a bit difficult. The puff & sip style mouse is the most commonly used and isn't too expensive, but many even come with voice dictation software. You might find some cheap ones about $250-$300.

[MackemX]

True. I know disabled people that use PCs too. But I also know the cost of their equipment. The onscreen keyboard still requires the use of a mouse. someone with only one arm might fint that fine, but a quaddie is gonna find it a bit difficult. The puff & sip style mouse is the most commonly used and isn't too expensive, but many even come with voice dictation software. You might find some cheap ones about $250-$300.

yeah but the PC can still be standard that was my point. We are now talking about extra hardware in the sense that you use a printer/scanner etc and that has nothing to do with whether the guy should buy computer A or computer B

[Doramius]

Then a HomeBuilt PC put together by your friend or relative is still gonna be better than buying one at the store.

[MackemX]

Then a HomeBuilt PC put together by your friend or relative is still gonna be better than buying one at the store.

yeah of course, if they have someone who can do it as not everyone knows someone who can build a good spec PC . Another factor is that some people may be able to build PC's but some may not be good at picking spec and buy spec that is mismatched. Like I said these days, I just ask the budget and main PC requirements and then point people to a good store that do custom builds

if you shop around you can get some good pre-builds these days that are very competitive to custom builds due to the fact the pre-builds are sold with a small profit margin. Bujying many parts individually means that all the small profit margins will add up . I guess you do get bad pre-builds that are over priced but that's all down to research and many people are just simply too lazy to shop around

[BJ_M]

mackemsxx's "home built" system = phase 4





it is true though -- that if you shop around carefully , even if you plan on upgrading ... you can find some real bargains .... guys like tigerdirect, dell etc buy at much lower price points than we can ...

[MackemX]

mackemsxx's "home built" system = phase 4

at this current moment in time that is actually closer to my current PC setup than a fully built system would be .

I've had some crap in recent weeks with it and bits are everywhere as I get sick of rebuilding it. If I had a camera to show you a picture then you would piss yourself laughing at the state it's in but it works 8). The only thing fastened into my Aluminium Lian Li case (I've forgotten the last time I had the sides or front on so I don't know why I paid £100 for the damn case) is the motherboard. The power supply is there but not screwed in. The DVD burner, hard drives (though in a frame) are just resting on the floor & case and the floppy has been missing since 2003. I've also got a 3" fan sitting on the bottom of the case pointing up as my graphics fan crapped out just last week and I didn't have a replacement

My PC is in the cupboard under the stairs and I've always wanted to build it into a custom setup rather than stick everything into a case but I've never got round to it. I've seen some pretty cool setups where people have put their PC's into furniture etc

[BJ_M]

i suggest this one






though this one is pretty strange ... http://www011.upp.so-net.ne.jp/kat2/pc/ern005/ekana.htm





but this one has some of the nicest work http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2005/10/19/wmd_g-gnome/1.html

[smearbrick1]

Annoyance:

People who refuse to accept a better way of doing something and continue to use their tired and inefficient procedure.

[MackemX]

Annoyance:

People who refuse to accept a better way of doing something and continue to use their tired and inefficient procedure.

like people using IE? Did you just read my post

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1497381#1497381

[smearbrick1]

Annoyance:

Build a fountain or a pond and people will throw money in it.

Not really an annoyance, just an oddity.

[Doramius]

I have a thought about that.

Go to Wal-Mart, buy a $14 kiddie pool. Build a small assembly that looks like a well. Put a fence around it and take it to carnivals and other various places. Chuck a small handfull of nikels & pennies into it and people will catch onto the idea. Don't even need a sign. Just let people throw money into it.

I've also wanted to scale the side of the Grand Canyon at heavily visited spots, and similar at other tourist areas. Heck, free money. No sense in letting it go to waste.

[Supreme2k]

At my mother-in-law's small business, they have (own) a fountain in front. They routinely rake in $80-$100 a day in coins. They could basically hire another person on the fountain intake alone.

[smearbrick1]

I thought of building one of those fish ponds in my front yard and letting the neighbors pitch coins into it.

[BJ_M]

i would rather just pitch some of my neighbours into it

[Doramius]

i would rather just pitch some of my neighbours into it

Why ruin the fountain?

[BJ_M]

who says there is water in it ?

[smearbrick1]

who says there is water in it ?

I'll have to remember to build it out of cement and make it at least 12 feet deep.

[Doramius]

who says there is water in it ?

Oh great. Now you're gonna stain it with blood. Throw a tarp over the thing before you chuck people in, at least. If there's no water, blood will be easier to clean up. If there is water, they won't be able to struggle as much. Think man.

[smearbrick1]

Anyone remember old push mowers (the ones with the engine)? My parents had this huge hulking beast of a push mower when I was a kid. It had no safety bar and no discharge guard (nice). I also remember it had this little patch of what looked like sandpaper on top of the deck where you were supposed to place your foot while starting. There was no button underneath it, the choke was on the handrail, and there was no mechanics tied to this little spot of sandpaper. For some reason, if you didn't have your foot directly on that piece of sandpaper when attempting to start the beast, it wouldn't start.

Sorry if this makes no sense. Just another random thought.

[Doramius]

WHat thread is this now anyway?