Clips from DVD to PC? (to make a music video, etc...)

[Downhome]

What I want to do is take clips from various DVDs that I own, then be able to use those clips on my PC to create a music video in Adobe Premiere Pro, Vegas Video, or some other program, but I'll most likely use Vegas Video as I've done before.

I know how to use DVD Shrink to get certain clips on my computer, but when I take that VOB file and try to convert it to AVI in VirtualDub Vob, it doesn't always come out right. The audio will be out of sync, etc... Which video codec would be the best to use in VirtualDub? I've never really known that.

I've tried using DivX, but when I try to edit that video in Premiere, nothing at all shows up.

Is there a guide somewhere, that explains the following?

-The best way to get specific clips from a DVD onto your PC.

-The best way to work with the VOB file that DVD Shrink gives you.

-The best way to compress that file to make it smaller to work with.

-Anything else I'm not thinking of right now.

I just can't seem to be able to get the clips to my PC in a true form that I can actually work with for what I want to do. Thanks for any help given.

[guns1inger]

Best would be uncompressed, or lossless compression such as huffyuv. Both of these will load OK into Premiere or Vegas, and it avoids the problem of recompressing compressed source material before editing and compressing again. DV-AVI is another alternative. All of these will be larger (and sometimes much larger) than the source.

If you want any sort of half decent quality while editing and once finished, don't try to get the smallest file size possible. The other solution is to use an mpeg editor, such as womble mpeg-vcr or videoredo pro, so you can work with either the vobs or the mpeg video directly, and not have to convert to AVI at all.

[Downhome]

I don't seem to be able to open up a VOB in Premiere or Vegas Video. What is the best way to take the VOB clips that I get from DVD Shrink, into a form that I can actually work with?

I just tried to convert a VOB using Womble MPEG-VCR and it did work, but again, the audio is not in sync. Could something be wrong with my VOB?

[guns1inger]

Many DVDs have delays built into the audio (don't know why, never looked into it). If that delay is not taken into account, then you get sync problems. If you audio is out by a constant amount the whole way through, you just need to adjust for the missing delay (could be + or -)

Virtualdubmpeg2 or virtualdubmod can take VOBs and output uncompressed or lossless avi files.

[Downhome]

Thanks for the help.

I just tried to use VideoReDo Plus, and it worked fine. I am able to load the MPG that it creates into Premiere Pro, but when I try to import it into Vegas Video, it just freezes one me. I go to import, and when I just simply click on the file to load it, it freezes, I can't do anything past that point. Why could this be?

I do have a problem with Premiere also though. When I play it is source view it looks fine, but when I play what is in the timeline in the other window, it puts black bars on the left and right instead of on the top and bottom of the video, creating a squishing effect if you know what I mean. How can I get around this? I saved a quick clip of something I put together, and the final product is like this. How do I keep it in the widescreen format, to the point that the final product will look how it should? I went through and tested using the 16:9 settings for NTSC, PAL, and the other one that I forget what it's called.

Surely there has got to be a better way to be able to work with DVD clips than this. I know it shouldn't be as complicated as it seems to me right now.

Thanks for the help so far, and thanks to anyone else who helps me in the future. I really need to figure all of this out pretty soon.

[anubis13]

I've had sucess with ripping the Vob's and loading them up into DVD to AVI, saving the project, which will give you an audio file and a .d2v file. Then use VFAPI reader to create a dummy avi file that will load up into vegas or premiere. I then edit and export to whatever format you need.

I't might work for you.

[hech54]

As long as the video you want is a "chapter"...then DVDDecrypter or DVDShrink should work with no problems. If you are attempting to trim the video clip with DVDShrink...that has always caused problems for me.
IF a clip gives me problems....then I use MPEG-VCR to trim(if necessary) then have it save it as an mpeg file...then author from there.
I also found that TMPGEnc DVD Author prefers to have the audio and video de-muxed...that little trick has saved a few hair-pulling sessions for me in the past.
Not sure if you've tried TDA yet but...just in case.

[Downhome]

These tricks haven't worked for me yet.

Is anyone out there willing to actually take a DVD, pick a very small clip, and tell me step by step what you do that works for you, to the point of having something that can be loaded into, and edited by, Vegas Video?

[hech54]

These tricks haven't worked for me yet.

Is anyone out there willing to actually take a DVD, pick a very small clip, and tell me step by step what you do that works for you, to the point of having something that can be loaded into, and edited by, Vegas Video?

That is what I am trying to say.

You need to take an entire chapter from the DVD and then turn it into a very small clip.

I don't have Vegas but Vegas or not....breaking up a chapter AS you take it from the DVD hardly ever works for me.

[Downhome]

I'll give that a try one more time when I get home. Everyone else, please keep the suggestions coming.

[hech54]

There is only one DVD that I have never been able to work with.....and that is Genesis - The Video Show.
For some reason that DVD will not work for me as far as taking individual videos....makes me want to pull my hair out....so I know where your coming from...

I eventually ended up making a DVD with no menu of my favorite vids from that DVD....that is the only way it would work for me.

[mikiem]

"Is anyone out there willing to actually take a DVD, pick a very small clip, and tell me step by step what you do that works for you, to the point of having something that can be loaded into, and edited by, Vegas Video? "

Not something everyone will agree with every step, but you asked...

If the desired clip is listed as a title in shrink, reauthor a DVD for that clip to isolate it. Obviously for a bunch of short clips it isn't worth it, but for episodes etc... Then use PgcDemux to strip files.

DGIndex on original Vobs demuxing audio (for bunch of shorter clips) or with m2v demuxed from shrink reauthored vobs. Graphedit to decode ac3 to wav. Use Avisynth to feed project files to V/Dub, often using wav source from graphedit. Fast compress (Encode) to (mjpeg or?) avi clips, or one longer video to split into clips in Vegas.

Alternatively can frameserve mpg2 project file (from DGIndex) -> Avisynth -> V/Dub -> VFAPI -> Vegas or mpg2 project file -> Avisynth -> VFAPI -> Vegas.

[GangstaMo]

U can try this....
Rip to Harddrive as mpeg using TDA
using Preiew in MVW,select the parts u need
then load in Vegas,works for me

[Downhome]

How in the world do you even use TDA? I can't even figure out how to rip the DVD using that. When I try to load a DVD in it I get an error saying that the file is not supported.