Error with Toast 7 (question)

[LonelyRoad]

Hi all,

I just upgraded to Toast 7 and tested it out by making a backup DVD. I used Mac the ripper and un-coded it. Then while burning it with Toast 7 I got the message: "Could not record the disc because there was an I/O error (your disc may be copy-protected)."

What's the deal?

[terryj]

you did drop the VIDEO_TS folder that MTR generates
into the Toast 7 DVD Tab, choosing the selection,
"DVD from VIDEO_TS"? nd you got an I/O error
"cannot read disc".

Where is the MTR output located at?on an ext.FW drive
perhaps...?

[LonelyRoad]

woooh, I'm not that good with computers!

I labeled a folder the same as the DVD title and then I chose that for Mac the ripper. Then (after the encoding) I just dragged that folder to the video part of Toast 7. I guess I still have a lot to learn.

Luke

[Frobozz]

woooh, I'm not that good with computers!

I labeled a folder the same as the DVD title and then I chose that for Mac the ripper. Then (after the encoding) I just dragged that folder to the video part of Toast 7. I guess I still have a lot to learn.

Luke

Does this mean the problem is solved?

[LonelyRoad]

woooh, I'm not that good with computers!

I labeled a folder the same as the DVD title and then I chose that for Mac the ripper. Then (after the encoding) I just dragged that folder to the video part of Toast 7. I guess I still have a lot to learn.

Luke

Does this mean the problem is solved?

No! lol. I didn't understand any of the first reply. Sorry!

[Frobozz]

Step 1: Do a full disc extraction with MTR
2: Open Toast and choose the Video window. Select "DVD video from VIDEO_TS" as the format.
3: Press the Select button and locate the VIDEO_TS folder that is inside the folder saved by MTR
4. You should now see the options for burning your DVD copy with Toast. There are more instructions in Toast Help.

Let me know if you still get this error.

[LonelyRoad]

I got a new error saying: The file "VTS_01_1.VOB" could not be accessed. (Data fork, -26)

What should I do?

[LonelyRoad]

I checked the video folder and that particular thing is the 5th VTS so the first 4 copied without a problem. There was progress shown with the blue bar filling up real fast. Afterword I got the same message as the first time with the I/O error and my disc might be copy protected.

[Frobozz]

Unfortunately I don't have much experience with MTR. I've used it mostly to see how it works. I know that Toast requires a full disc extraction but I don't know how to customize any of the MTR settings for a specific DVD's copy protection. I suggest testing with a different DVD to see if the problem is specific to the DVD you're using. Someone else may be able to point you to the site where MTR issues are discussed.

[LonelyRoad]

Thanks, I was thinking about trying a different DVD.

I couple quick questions.

Now that I have Toast 7 does it compress to fit the DVD automatically? Is that what the fit-to-DVD video compression to the left under options does? Thanks.

Also what is MTR?

Thank you all for replying. I'm just getting started with DVD burning and you very helpful.

[LonelyRoad]

Step 1: Do a full disc extraction with MTR
2: Open Toast and choose the Video window. Select "DVD video from VIDEO_TS" as the format.
3: Press the Select button and locate the VIDEO_TS folder that is inside the folder saved by MTR
4. You should now see the options for burning your DVD copy with Toast. There are more instructions in Toast Help.

Let me know if you still get this error.

I did this exactly and with 3 seconds left of buring I get the message that my disc "might" be copy protected.

Has anyone de-coded with Mac the ripper and burned with Toast 7 successfully?!?

[macuser25]

>Has anyone de-coded with Mac the ripper and burned with Toast 7 successfully?!?

umm... ya... thousands and thousands.

http://www.macweaver.com/dvdinfo/index.htm

[LonelyRoad]

Please tell me what's wrong.

http://www.macweaver.com/dvdinfo/toast7.htm

I did this exact thing (after doing a full disc extraction with Mactheripper) on two different DVD's but still got a error message with 3 seconds left of burning.

What could be the problem?

[terryj]

ok, the question we all forgot to ask:
1. What version of Mac The Ripper are you using.
You should be using v.3.0r12, the latest, because
it handles error checking for ArCCos and Ripguard
more effectively than v. 2.66, which is still
avaialble through most Mac Software updates.

I believe what you are seeing is RipGuard corruption
of the VOB, and if your using MTR v2.66, it won't
detect RIPGUARD and handle it correctly.

[ also, btw, MTR is of course Mac The Ripper ]

You can get v.3.0r12 only by Donation only at
the Mac The Ripper Forum (click the link).

[LonelyRoad]

Ok, yes I do have 2.6.6 and not the best version then. I will try and get the next version and get back to you all.

[LonelyRoad]

Can anyone tell me why I wasn't able to complete the burning process without errors? I don't want to donate for the newer version if I was never able to burn with the older version. All my DVD's ripped fine, it was at the very end of the burning with Toast 7 where the problem was.

[terryj]

From re-reading your posts, again it sounds as if your
encountering Ripguard, which hoses your VOBs,
( your post: Problem encountered with the 5th VTS)
Toast requires you to either:
a. Rip a Main Movie only with MTR and use that created
VIDEO-TS to make your backup to burn
or
b. Rip the whole disc using MTR Full Disc Mode, and then
try burning the whole disc, using Toast 7 fit to disc mode.

Since you are using MTR 2.66, AS WIDELY REPORTED ON
MTR's FORUM, it cannot detect RIPGUARD accurately,
and produces errors like what you are seeing: ie.,
in FULL DISC mode, the VOB is hosed since MTR 2.66 can't
handle ripguard, and doesn't strip all the copy protection,
thus giving you the error in Toast 7.

For as little as $15, you can have this program updated,
and be on your merry way ( and also be included in
getting .r13 in a few months, which will improve on
Ripguard and ArCCos awareness).

So what are you waiting for?
Your only other option is to, if you don't want to donate,
start looking at every Disc you buy and just refuse to buy
discs made from these studios, so you don't have to deal
with Ripguard:

Sony/Columbia/Tri-star
Disney/Touchstone/Miramax
A/E. Bravo, Discovery

That's a LOT of movies to be left out on.....think about it.

[LonelyRoad]

Thank you all for replying.

I was told that newer DVD's won't rip with MTR so I tried two old DVD's I own and they both burned! 8)

As for the new MTR, the guy who asks for donations is asking $30. It will eventually be free once it's completed. As a poor college student I'll just wait for it to be available for download.

Thanks!

[lawnman]

He doesn't ask for an amount, you just have to donate something.

[terryj]

Actually someone posted no less than $10 for MTR as evidenced here and here, due to the exchange rates.

I suggested $15 becauseue $15 is less of an insult.

ANd if things keep going the way they are going with all the
Cease and Desist letters flying about, MTR will never be
FREE again, only available as Donateware.

[lawnman]

"Someone" is not GB or WW

[terryj]

I'm sorry but your post REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.

I pointed out that the exchange rates are sh!t now for the
American Dollar ,
and the fact that Paypal charges a Sh!tload to convert currency,
and you had to point out it was ok to be
a cheap @$$ just because GB and WW didn't say you couldn't.

It wouldn't suprise me if GB made EVERY .r release DONATEWARE
from now on...its a wonder the man can even provide for his family
with wonderful DONATERs such as yourself.


Fact of the matter is if you donate $10 US to GB, and with Paypal
taking 3% off the top, provided you donated direct from your PayPal
account, that leaves $9.70.
[insert--Edited thanks to Frobozz for pointing out I shouldn't do math when I'm mad ]
If you use a CC to pay him with via PayPal,
then Paypal takes another 1%, cutting it down to $8.73.
When's the last time YOU tried to feed a family on $9?!?

Perhaps $9 isn't as bad here as it is in his homeland, but on this side of
the pond, $9 is an INSULT, especially given the hardwork he does
on the program, all the while not WORKING on paying jobs.

Just because someone is too KIND to come out and say directly
that less than $10 is an insult, doesn't mean it isn't one.



[edited due to poor math skills when I see red---terryj]

[twosocks]

with wonderful DONATERs such as yourself

So I quess the fact that Lawnman sends more of the problem discs to GB for evaluation, than anyone, doesn't count?

The same effort you put into searching the MTR forums to find the $10 donation posts could be also be used to read the contributions (in addition to $) of others.

Yes, it griped my arss, last year, when GB had his fund drive for his G5, to see the list of donators and the number of people that had donated less than $10. If memory serves me correctly, WW stated at the time that we only had donations from less that 200 people when the number of downloads, at VersionTracker, was well over 100,000.

You know, as well, as I do, that in reality, the majority of MTR's user base wants everything for nothing. You can see it it the posts.

[terryj]

So I quess the fact that Lawnman sends more of the problem discs to GB for evaluation, than anyone, doesn't count?

The same effort you put into searching the MTR forums to find the $10 donation posts could be also be used to read the contributions (in addition to $) of others.

What Lawnman himself DOES isn't what I had the issue with socks,
it's the fact that he was trying to tell the OP that since
WW and GB didn't come right out and say it was insulting
to send a low amount to help contribute with MTR developement,
that its OK to send anything in your pocket.
With this, you advocate the sending of what , $1, $2?
after Paypal fees and exchange rates, you might as well have
just sent an IOU, because it would be about the same.

couple that with the fact that the OP had said he was a
"poor college student, and that he would wait until it was free"
is one of the main reasons why MTR IS NO LONGER free,
as I posted back.
Too many leechers, as apparent on VT and Macupdate can verify,
and not enough contributors, coupled with scammers not fullfilling
payment, has led GB and WW to tighten up on MTR's release.
( and oh, yeah...that pesky Cease and Desist from Macrovision
doesn't help either... )

And I look at contribuors such as ...let's see...Myself and Mark V,
who HAVE advocated in the past (SBFF) that when MTR went
Donateware, we should PAY to help keep it's development going,
and contribute whatever's necessary and not insulting.

Yes, it griped my arss, last year, when GB had his fund drive for his G5, to see the list of donators and the number of people that had donated less than $10. If memory serves me correctly, WW stated at the time that we only had donations from less that 200 people when the number of downloads, at VersionTracker, was well over 100,000.

You know, as well, as I do, that in reality, the majority of MTR's user base wants everything for nothing. You can see it it the posts.

true, but why should we help advocate this?
that's my BEEF, and as even an occasional user of the
program, I still shout that
"we should pay for development, and not be insulting about it."

look at THOTH.
It was a great shareware newsreader, and it's situation mirrored MTR's:
a heck of alot of downloads, not enough paying customers.
Those of us who wanted to see it continute to be developed
were STUNNED when one day, the author said "I Quit.".
And he quit due to "not enough monetary support to make it
worth his while." He saw the numbers, and the reality.

We shouldn't let the same thing happen to MTR, and we shouldn't
advocate the mentality of being cheap or of leeching good
software/utilities we use from 3rd party developers.
We should speak up and get others to see this is wrong,
otherwise you will never reverse the situation.
Saying this is a "not my problem" issue isn't going to change it,
we have to be proactive and EVERY USER should do this.

I know the reality is that the majority of people are cheap @$$
lazy bastards, but those of us who aren't, shouldn't stoop or cater
to their level.
You instead tell them " this is what it's gonna cost, it isn't free,
and it will be a cold day in h3ll before you'll see it that way,
so pay up or do with out." And if they don't want to pay, then maybe
that will force them to look at their priorties, and they'll leave.
the ones who stay and help support, glad to know ya,
because then we all benefit.

much calmer now....

[sangren]

I am encountering this same problem. Can anyone provide some solutions? I have tried re-installing the software with no success. This error is occuring for everything I have attempted in Toast 7.0, I recently updated my OS to 10.3.9 and have a second drive running 10.4. ANy suggestions are greatly appreciated. This error occurs when attempting to create a disc image from avi files.