i want to advance my knowledge in AV manipulation and now that i got a DVD writer, i want to shiftt from doing VCDs to DVDs. I tried TMPGEnc DVD Author and it works fine since im a newbie at this. However, the program itself is a little limiting so i shifted trying DVD Lab Pro so i can be more creative. I have no problems in learning this program as well and the guides that i've read so far were within my understanding. now on to my problem.
whenever i try to complile the DVD info using DVD Lab Pro, a window shows up saying something like:
"The Compile Process Cant Continue and Has Been Aborted." and it also said something like i should re-encode the source files into DVD compliant settings.
here is the details.
1. I got my video file from a VCD by copying the DAT file.
2. I converted the file into MPEG2 using Winavi 7.0 to save me some time
3. Settings are NTSC, Constant Video Quality: medium, Audio Sample Rate: 48000, Audio Bitrate 192000, Preference: by speed, Size: 720x480
4. I do the rest with DVD Lab
5. Compile error
it's odd because i used the same file and encoding style and got no such errors in TMPGEnc DVD Author and got a nice running DVD-RW 9 (as a test run)
so im asking you great people...
what am i doing wrong with DVD Lab Pro that causing it so say that error message? should i use another encoding program/settings? What DVD authoring program would be a good alternative to DVD Lab as far creative control is concerned?
I prefer using WINAVI because it's fast but considering the circumstances i want to try another DVD encoder that works well with DVD Lab Pro and using the TMPGEnc Encoder would be the last resort for me coz it takes so much time to encode.
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WinAVI is more likely your problem than DVD-Lab Pro. Try Mainconcept MPEG encoder, or ProCoder or CCE. They are all faster than TMPGEnc.
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i think WINAVI is my main concern as well. thanks for the suggestions and i'll try them.
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now im using the trial mainconcept mpeg encoder. ive read a couple of guides and it seems promising enough. after encoding however...
when i compile again with dvd lab pro, it says the same error again. and ohe yeah, i didnt mention this before but dvd lab keeps on showing a window that the video file was detected with an OPEN GOP whenever i open it up on the asset window.
can somebody please help me with this? what encoding settings should i use so that dvd lab wouldnt give me any lip -
Somewhere under properties. This won't make any difference to what you are doing, as it is only a warning, and open GOPs are not the cause of your problem.
As for correct encoding settings, resolution and framerate are the ones that will cause compilation issues. As requested before, post g-spot screenshots of what you have created so we can see where you might be in trouble.Read my blog here.
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this is the original video dat file i got from the vcd
http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/2299/lastorderdat1activewindow9nm.jpg
this is the mpv encoded with Mainconcept
http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/6735/lastordermpv1activewindow9rp.jpg
i dont know how to make the images here so there are the links -
Have you tried just using the mpeg that came from the VCD ? DVD Lab Pro should upsample the audio to 8k for you, and everything else should work. VCD video is within the DVD spec, only the sample rate of the audio is not.
Read my blog here.
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so you saw them image files then. yey!
so what you're trying to say is that i should try importing the actual .dat file, without any further encoding whatsoever, into the dvd lab and it will do the rest?
hmm... i never tried that. many thanks gunslinger. i will try just that. if dvd lab still brings out that compile problem, heaven forbid, i'll start tearing out my hair.
if some of you guys have the same problem, please do post the solutions, if you found some, so i can also try it myself. ^_^ -
ah ofcourse. dvd lab doesnt recognize the dat file. i tried. silly me. so i need to use that program to extract a mpeg file from the vcd. got it. i'll try that. thanks man.
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okay here's what happened.
1. i used vcdgear as suggested
2. i made the dat file into mpg
3. i launched dvd lab pro and used a simple movie without menu interface
4. i imported the mpg file into the assets
5. dvd lab pro showed a sign saying the video that is low quality mpeg 1 file which i should turn into 2:3 pull down mpv; and turn the audio into 48000 khz. in the asset window, the finished audio 48000 while the video has the noticable attributes --- duration: Open GOP and status: MPEG
6. with the dvd lab's options, i transformed the video with the recommended pulldown and made the audio into 48000
7. i compiled it and it got the same compilation error message.
i dont know what to do now. im starting to think that DVD lab pro would only accept TMPGEnc made MPEG2 -
i read a comment about DLP's 1.5 version and it says that using the older DLB 1.3 is a better choice since it is doesnt show this particular error as much as 1.5
i downloaded the trial DLB 1.3 version and i was able to compile my dvd without any problems. it's such a shame most of the good stuff are in the DLP but im still worried that nomatter how i encode the assets, DLP would show that error again.
thanks to y'all, namely to gunsliger's patience with me -
FWIW, I have been using 1.53 since it was released (haven't gone to 1.6 yet) and have never seen this error. I don't work with VCD source though - maybe that has something to do with it. It's actually made me wonder if I should get my small VCD collection out and put it all on one DVD.
Read my blog here.
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I know your problem is solved now, but I'm wildly curious. When you used 1.3 instead of 1.5 to compile, did it convert your mpg for you? And to what video size did it convert to?
When I first read this thread I thought it was the 720x480 instead of 704x480 that was the culprit. If you have your default menu set at letterbox and try to drop a widescreen clip in it, dvdlab won't compile.
I've been using 1.53 for a while now and have done several successfull vcd/mpg1 dvd authors. I would get that error alot whenever the screen size was off (like 320x240) or if the audio was more than 2 seconds longer in duration than the video (which can happen sometimes if you demultiplex the wrong way.) If certain aspects of a clip are non-compliant, dvdlab won't compile unless the restrictions are relaxed (by going into settings and changing them.) -
actually i main problem is with 1.5 version. i only used 1.3 so i can get on with my life. actually i tried other avi files that i have and to no avail this error still sticks.
anyway, by using the 1.3, my MCME encoded DVD mpeg2 (not in EA/EV, following default DVD NTSC 720x480 settings) got demuxed by it just fine, however the video is 2 seconds longer than the video. -
okay. i followed shadowmistress' suggestion and i got great results.
i used DLP 1.53 once again and tried the very same .dat file that ive been mentioning. looking back, i think i followed a guide that made me tweak some things, right even before i started compiling using 1.53 in the first place. i just have to revert them back to it's default parameters (as possible as i thought i would be, anyway).
for future references, here is what i did with DLP 1.53 to make my original DAT file into MPEG2 into DVDR. im using the NTSC setting just to make it clear.
Tools Used:
My Original DAT file
Mainconcept Mpeg Encoder 1.5 (to make a close GOP DVD projected AV)
DVD Lab Pro 1.53 (i let it demux the mpeg2 to it's ES video and audio taste)
before anything else go In the Project Properties and i changed the following:
System Tab
> System Target Setting --> check NTSC not PAL
> Accept Movie Files --> Full/Half D1, SIF, SVCD, SAT
> Menu/Slideshow --> 720x480 - Full D1
> Menu Slideshow Aspect --> 4:3 regular
> Widescreen Movie Display on 4:3 --> Pan & Scan
> NTSC Safe Color --> check Safe NTSC colors
> Max Voltage --> 10%
Advace Tab*
> DVD Errors/Warning Override --> uncheck Accept non DVD sizes and MPEG Audio to LPCM decoding
*I just leave this one to your taste but with them it went smooth sailing. i dont know if such altering settings would be such a significance.
The rest of the Project Properties Tabs and Options were untouched and left to default. Just the above tweaks i made worked for me in dealing with this particular error, however it's still early to say if i keep using this kind of settings.
To Gunslinger and Shadowmistress, many thanks for the enlightenment and also for those who contributed. Now i can finally say that the compilation error that i got from DLP is gone, as far as my DAT video is concerned anyway.
Many thanks again and i hope this might serve useful to anyone with the same problem. -
Glad it's now working for you.
Yeah, if your default project menu is set to pal (or unspecified even) I can see why it would stall when you drop an ntsc clip into it. I've had 1.53 for so long I can't remember what it's original install settings were.
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