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    Hi.

    I've read the numorus threads about COPY PROTECT DVD'S, and I
    know that there's nothing full proof, and that with a software like
    DVDSHRINK or CLONEDVD you can copy any dvd you want.

    I'm making a commercial DVD that I don't want people to be
    able to copy with NERO. I assume that people with no technichal skills
    will stop after that.

    Which software gives me the option to protect my DVD'S from
    Copying it with Nero ?

    I ran into DVD'S that wouldn't copy in NERO.

    Thanks.
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  2. My ten year old can use DVD Shrink, man, are you serious?
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    If you're making a commercial DVD, use commercial methods, such as Macrovision, CSS, Arcoss(?), etc. Anything below that is not "commercial", it's amateur.

    But as CS above said, not much of a hindrance. Any fool (and I mean any) can google "copy DVD" or type in www.videohelp.com
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  4. One method that could work to defeat a newbie would be have a disk that is not full, then add dummy files to the disk to fill it completely.

    Now before burning and this will take some experimenting to find the right amount to use.

    You need to put something on the bottom of the disk that will keep the laser from burning properly so as to create a bad burn area. Possible Magic marker? Put this near the edge where it will be over the area that is filled with dummy data. Then After the burn remove the opaque material so it just looks like a bad burn. Nero should choke when it gets to the bad burn and error out since it is trying to read data from a unburned area.

    This is off the top of my head, and is what I believe they sort of do as a copy protection on some commercial DVDs but at the master creation level.

    In the much earlier days when all the s/w came on floppies some disks had deliberate errors in a specific spot either lasered in or in one low tech method a scratch on the disk and if the software install could read that spot it would fail. The Laser was the better method as it could be precise and harder to spot hence harder to replicate.

    This will of course only defeat the casual copier.

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  5. I dont want to sound like an arse but if Hollywood can really protect their dvds what would make yours any different. Just put the normal disclaimer on the disc or cover saying this dvd is copy protected and you arent allowed to copy it.
    Good luck with it though. If you can figure out how to do it please share your instructions on how to do it.
    Life is like a pothole, you just have to learn to get around it.
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  6. Hardcore approach:

    Start out by designing your own proprietory OS that boots from CD that can't be run from Windows. This way people can't view your content within Windows and thus prevents capture using apps like Fraps. Also use a proprietory video format which doesn't have playback support under any other platform. You might also want to have a proprietory encryption system that hasn't been sold or used with any other products (and thus hasn't been cracked yet). To accomplish all this you'll likely need to hire your own team of software engineers.

    A more sensible approach:

    If you need it to work in a stand-alone player and you just want to provide some basic protection against casual copying, you'll want to have your discs pressed by a production house that licenses technology from the group that handles CSS encryption and Macrovision. This is an effective way to keep the honest people honest and makes your product easier to use and more desirable to your target consumer.
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    Actually if you're doing a commercial project, would probably work best if you followed in the path of Hollywood studios & software publishers.

    1) Make some attempt at copy protection, and include various warnings.

    2) find someone in goverment, preferably many someones, and be *nice* to them.

    3) start screaming that you can't make money because of piracy -- scream loudly enough that no one looks at actual figures.

    4) if possible get government to issue new tax (as with recording media), whilest raising prices to genuine customers.

    5) use extra funds from higher prices to hire lawyers to go after everyone else.
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  8. Originally Posted by thecenter
    Hi.

    I've read the numorus threads about COPY PROTECT DVD'S, and I
    know that there's nothing full proof, and that with a software like
    DVDSHRINK or CLONEDVD you can copy any dvd you want.

    I'm making a commercial DVD that I don't want people to be
    able to copy with NERO. I assume that people with no technichal skills
    will stop after that.

    Which software gives me the option to protect my DVD'S from
    Copying it with Nero ?

    I ran into DVD'S that wouldn't copy in NERO.

    Thanks.
    You've gotten lots of comments basically suggesting there is no way to prevent copying because for every 1 smart person trying to prevent it, there are 10 smarter people seeing just how fast they can do it anyway just for the fun of it.

    Maybe you should just feel good about the potential for putting out something good enough for folks to actually be motivated to copy . . . . Then, if that happens, get more aggressive copy prevention techniques with your second commercially successful release.
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  9. You should be lucky that this thread of yours is fairly tame. There have been other threads like yours that have gotten completely out of control.
    So what kind of "commercial DVD " are you doing anyway,If you mind me asking?
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  10. Always Watching guns1inger's Avatar
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    In answer to your original question, get it pressed and pay for CSS licensing and you will stop standard copy software being able to copy the disc. But as you already know, this will only stop your 97 year old gandmother copying it, and no-one else.
    Read my blog here.
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