Copying NTSC VCR to DVD

[rhegedus]

I've done a few NTSC VHS captures using my system - as suggested, you need a VHS player that can output NTSC as PAL or a DVDR than can accept NTSC.

Unless you are going to do this a few times, it's not worth buying the equipment otherwise your VHS to DVD conversion will cost you at least £50.

You need to find someone to do it for you.

PM me if you need further help

[CheekyKid]

i pm'ed you

[rhegedus]

gotcha

[CheekyKid]

I finally found a 3.58 Vcr.
It isn't stereo so does that mean that the video produced on my pc after ripping the dvd will be in mono sound?

[FulciLives]

I finally found a 3.58 Vcr.
It isn't stereo so does that mean that the video produced on my pc afte ripping the dvd will be in mono sound?

Bingo.

Even if the VHS has Hi-Fi Stereo audio you can only get audio from the mono track. Mono track VHS sounds worse than a cassette tape made without Dolby B noise reduction.

Bad call on your part.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[CheekyKid]

I found one but haven't bought it as yet.Am going to burn a pal vhs to my dvd and play it on my so i can decide whether i can accept the sound or not.

[rbatty11]

Just thought I'd throw this into the picture--maybe it'd work??:

http://www.world-import.com/cmd850.htm

Has anyone have any experience with it?

[rhegedus]

Just thought I'd throw this into the picture--maybe it'd work??:

http://www.world-import.com/cmd850.htm

Has anyone have any experience with it?

It would be cheaper to buy a VCR that can output pure PAL or NTSC...

[FulciLives]

Just thought I'd throw this into the picture--maybe it'd work??:

http://www.world-import.com/cmd850.htm

Has anyone have any experience with it?

I have this thing ... bought it about 3 to 4 years ago ... it's garbage. For all the hoopla on the website you would think it's the best converter ever made.

It's absolute garbage *spits*

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[CheekyKid]

I finally found a 3.58 Vcr.
It isn't stereo so does that mean that the video produced on my pc afte ripping the dvd will be in mono sound?

Bingo.

Even if the VHS has Hi-Fi Stereo audio you can only get audio from the mono track. Mono track VHS sounds worse than a cassette tape made without Dolby B noise reduction.

Bad call on your part.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Could you elaborate on why the dvd won't record the cassette in stereo?

[FulciLives]

I finally found a 3.58 Vcr.
It isn't stereo so does that mean that the video produced on my pc afte ripping the dvd will be in mono sound?

Bingo.

Even if the VHS has Hi-Fi Stereo audio you can only get audio from the mono track. Mono track VHS sounds worse than a cassette tape made without Dolby B noise reduction.

Bad call on your part.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Could you elaborate on why the dvd won't record the cassette in stereo?

A VHS video can be MONO only or it can be Hi-Fi Stereo but all Hi-Fi Stereo VHS videos also have a MONO only track for compatability with non Hi-Fi Stereo VHS VCR units.

Only a Hi-Fi Stereo VHS VCR can play back the Hi-Fi Stereo audio track. If the VHS VCR is not a Hi-Fi Stereo model then it plays back the MONO track.

The MONO track on a VHS video is utter crap ... sounds horrible ... the comparrison is an audio cassette tape that was recorded without any Dolby noise reduction ... there is a lot of "hiss" and on top of that the fidelity range is extremely limited making it sound even worse than an audio cassette tape that was recorded without any Dolby noise reduction.

See not only is Hi-Fi Stereo in Stereo but the sound quality is much higher ... almost as good as CD audio. In fact you will find that sometimes the Hi-Fi Stereo track is really MONO in that the LEFT and RIGHT channels are the same because hey some movies were only made in MONO but since Hi-Fi Stereo is higher quality it was used even if the original mix isn't truely "stereo".

So a Hi-Fi Stereo track can be true "stereo" or mono but it is always going to be of high quality whereas the mono track is always mono and of much lower quality.

MONO VHS video audio sucks ass.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[sstavross]

I have not really understand the PAL60 system. I want also to make dvds from some NTSC tapes and my VCR can not play pure NTSC,only PAL60. My DVD recorder(a very cheap one "crown" brand) records the tape NTSC, in B/W throw the Composite input, or the S-video input. So, it means that I loose the color. Is there a way to feed my DVD recorder with the color. Maybe throw an RGB cable?

[CheekyKid]

I have not really understand the PAL60 system. I want also to make dvds from some NTSC tapes and my VCR can not play pure NTSC,only PAL60. My DVD recorder(a very cheap one "crown" brand) records the tape NTSC, in B/W throw the Composite input, or the S-video input. So, it means that I loose the color. Is there a way to feed my DVD recorder with the color. Maybe throw an RGB cable?

Ellinas?

Is your tv ntsc compatible? if not you won't be able to see colour

[FulciLives]

I have not really understand the PAL60 system. I want also to make dvds from some NTSC tapes and my VCR can not play pure NTSC,only PAL60. My DVD recorder(a very cheap one "crown" brand) records the tape NTSC, in B/W throw the Composite input, or the S-video input. So, it means that I loose the color. Is there a way to feed my DVD recorder with the color. Maybe throw an RGB cable?

Like what the heck man this whole thread is about this.

European VHS VCR units tend to play NTSC back as PAL60 and this is worthless.

You need a VHS VCR that can play back NTSC as regular NTSC not as PAL60.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[sstavross]

FulciLives I have read this thread very carefully and have understand that you can not record PAL60. I am asking for the nature of PAL60, maybe we can do a kind of hack... You never know. After a lot of search I discovered that PAL 60 is an NTSC signal with PAL color.So if there is a way to "convert" only the color (the frequency of the trasmiting color)it would work. Or if I open the VCR and try to find the video signal before its convertion in PAL60. Is this possible? That's why I am asking here.Maybe someone who has knowlege of electronics may help.

CheekyKid yes, I am Ellinas . I have no problem with my tv, just with my DVD recorder!

[FulciLives]

FulciLives I have read this thread very carefully and have understand that you can not record PAL60. I am asking for the nature of PAL60, maybe we can do a kind of hack... You never know. After a lot of search I discovered that PAL 60 is an NTSC signal with PAL color.So if there is a way to "convert" only the color (the frequency of the trasmiting color)it would work. Or if I open the VCR and try to find the video signal before its convertion in PAL60. Is this possible? That's why I am asking here.Maybe someone who has knowlege of electronics may help.

CheekyKid yes, I am Ellinas . I have no problem with my tv, just with my DVD recorder!

It's not possible to capture a PAL60 signal except with certain of the old BT based computer capture cards and even then I think you need some special "magical" combination of driver/software. From my understanding it just doesn't sound like it is worth doing it that way. There is no way to "trick" a stand alone DVD recorder into recording a PAL60 signal.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[CheekyKid]

I just bought a multisystem Panasonic NV-SD320 off ebay for 15 pounds including postage.That's about 28$ so i got a fair deal i think .I didn't expect to have to pay more for the postage than the actuall video.
Anyone know how old is this particular vhs? I shall record some tapes soon and see whether the sound captures is acceptable.

Sorry for the greek chaps.

Stavro den eimai sigouros an auto pou les me to PAL60 mporei na gini eukola alla se kathe periptosi aksizi na agorasis ena amerikaniko video opos ego.Pio eukola kai sto telos malon stixizi ftinotera apo to na paris ena converter pal60 -> pal50

[RoopeT]

I had no problems recording PAL60 signal with my Phillips DVDR980 when the unit was still working (NTSC tape on PAL JVS SVHS 7950 as input). I have also captured a few tapes with my budget Terratec TerraTV Value card (Bt 848, with btwincap drivers + VirtualDub Synch), but the quality wasn't that great (only used it with older / high gen tapes that philips couldn't deal with .. dropping a lot of frames). (OLD = 10th gen, 30 years; second gen VHS recorded 5 years ago is NOT old)

Canopus ADVC 100 couldn't deal with PAL60 signal, tried that one too ... if I wanted to convert more than just a few tapes I'd really buy a TRUE NTSC VCR, but for now I can live with my inability to capture NTSC tapes. If the tape is NTSC you should try to keep it as NTSC, not converting to PAL or even to PAL60 ... just my 2 cents.

Roope

[CheekyKid]

That's why I bought a video that outputs NTSC 3.58.The mono audio issue that you get is ok for me as i'll be mostly recording lectures and things like that.