TMPGE express trial, Problems with quicktime mov 5.1 sources, HELP!!!

[marinerules]

Hello , I just started downloading the HD trailers off of Apple in hopes of converting them using tmpge and then making them to where I can view them on dvd, Making myself some home theater demos,

so far when I open the program and click add file , I can add the mov trailers that are only 2 channel sound, however , when i try to add a hd trailer such as Chronicals of Narnia, or Harry POtter or the other 5.1 sources I have, the program says it cant add the file or read it.


is this because its the trial version

Im wanting to buy the real version if this is the case, Its just Im wanting to make sure that this is what it is before I spend 60 bucks on the program and then find out I cant convert 5.1 material.


also. after running it through this program and then through dvd author from pegasys , will the quality of sound and picture be good on dvd ,


alot of cheap converters for avi files and such in the past always dgrade the quality significantly , The whole purpose of me wanting to do this is to provide myself with a home made home theater demo disc to show off my sound and projector to my friends

[marinerules]

noone knows?


I hope its just the trial , if noone has responded by tomjmorow I will just go ahead and buy the full version and see what happens

[TaoTeWingChun]

Have you checked the website to see what the software publisher says? As it's a trial, I'm betting that 5.1 support isn't built into the free version. And if you do go ahead and purchase it, likely you may need soe sort of add-on or plug-in to make it read 5.1 audio anyway.

Good Luck and post back with what you discover!

Cheers!

TTWC

[marinerules]

ok ive boght everythign and evidently it was for nothing , because it still wont open up any trailers that have more channels than 2

[redwudz]

What TaoTeWingChun said; To work with AC3 in TMPGEnc Express, you need to buy the plugin, the same applies to the regular TMPGEnc encoder.

http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tsp_ac3.html

And it will only do 2 channel, not 5.1.

But if you extract out the 5.1 audio from the original file, you can then add it to the DVD during the authoring stage and avoid messing with TMPGEnc's plugin altogether. The plugin requires periodic contact with their company over the internet to keep using it, another reason I don't like it.

[marinerules]

hey thanks for responding

so how do I extrack the 5.1 audio from the quicktime mov file. ?


and i guess it has to be done before I add the movie to tmpgenc , so how do I do that?

and How do I add to the dvd at the end ?

im really wanting to be able to do this.

I have some really good 5.1 trailers

[marinerules]

or is there a program that can make mov 5.1 content to dvd

[TaoTeWingChun]

MarineRules,

That's what the 'How To...' guides on the left hand pane are for. If you look for "Mov to DVD' in the conversion pull-down I'm sure you will be able to locate what you're looking for.

In case you have difficulty searching for something useful, I can point you here for starters:

http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/55/59/

Give it a thorough read and then do a search in the forums for 'quicktime audio extraction', for example.

Best Wishes!

TTWC

[marinerules]

that link didnt help any considering i mentioned that the tmpgn isnt going to work ccause it doenst do 5.1 sources, i will keep looking i guess, ive been working on thiws for 3 days now

[TaoTeWingChun]

Thanks for that. Amazingly enough, I just tried to do it using TMPGEnc Plus 2.5 in conjunction with the TMPGEnc Mov plug-in and it worked to my utter amazement!

I just told it to output a PCM audio stream instead of the usual MP2 and lo and behold it worked. Amazing what you learn when you try.

Looks like someone figured it out, and that was a 5 second search on my part . . .

Do a Forum search, as I did, using something like 'extract audio from MOV', you should see numerous topics.

Cheers!

TTWC

[guns1inger]

marinerules : you have a bigger problem that simply trying to demux the 5.1 audio from these trailers. The audio is not AC3, which would make life simple, it is AAC. There appears to be only two programs that support the extraction of AAC audio - belight and goldwave - and I can find nothing that leads me to believe they will either convert to AC35.1, or even demux back to mono elements for you to encode elsewhere.

Super can also process MOV with AAC, but you get 2 channel AC3 output.

[celtic_druid]

mp4box/yamb can demux the audio to a new mp4, you can then convert it using numerous apps. BeSweet, foobar2k, ffmpeg, etc.

It isn't up to TMPGEnc to handle 5.1 input, that is upto the filters being used for input. As said though, it can't output 5.1 anyway.

[marinerules]

IM so aggravated, I guess im just nott going to be able to do it , I mean I dont know why they make it this difficult

its not that tmpgnc wont read my files, i have the plugins ec.t

it wont read the video or audio or NOT HING on a mov that has 5.1 sound


it only works with 2 channel


it looks like its impossible to transfer mov to dvd using the 5.1 that my hd trailers have, which i dont understand cuase I have heard of people d oing this

[TaoTeWingChun]

IM so aggravated, I guess im just nott going to be able to do it , I mean I dont know why they make it this difficult

its not that tmpgnc wont read my files, i have the plugins ec.t

it wont read the video or audio or NOT HING on a mov that has 5.1 sound

it only works with 2 channel

it looks like its impossible to transfer mov to dvd using the 5.1 that my hd trailers have, which i dont understand cuase I have heard of people d oing this

If TMPGenc isn't even loading the video, then I'd say you have bigger problems. Have a look at the guides and see what other conversion(s) might exist that would allow you to keep the video and 5.1 audio intact and then use DVD Lab Pro to preserve the 5.1 audio. TMPGenc DVD Author doesn't handle 5.1, so you are using the wrong authoring program to begin with.

Use the guides and see what tools will enabe you t move from piece to piece, ultimately resulting in your final DVD output.

Cheers and happy hunting!

TTWC

[marinerules]

ok ive had a little success



for example


quicktime trailer hd,

Chronicals of narnia.

i exported the audio out and saved it as a wmv, and then I exported the video


then I ran through tmpgnc then i ran it through dvd author

the audio is lpcm , and sounds terrible, you cant hear them tlaking in the trailerl


so i guess I have it in other words, its just I need to know how to transfer this 5.1 aac audio to a file that can be read on the dvd

[guns1inger]

A google for AAC to AC3 turned up this post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=666230

[TaoTeWingChun]

Great tip, Guns1inger! Looks like MarineRules can do the cnversion using freeware tools!

Now, how about an authoring program? I recommended DVD Lab Pro for that - have you an alternate he can use, maybe on the cheap?

Cheers!

TTWC

[guns1inger]

The only free authoring program I know of for windows is DVD Author and it's associated GUIs. I use DVD Lab Pro myself.

[TaoTeWingChun]

Great minds think alike, eh?

Thanks, guns1inger!

Cheers!

TTWC

[celtic_druid]

If you remux from mov to mp4 using mp4box/yamb, the files will be more compatible. Alot of mov/mp4 parsers will have trouble with aac in mov, especially if it is 5.1. The same parsers mostly handle it fine in mp4. For instance ffmpeggui should be able to convert fine from the mp4, but not from the mov.

[guns1inger]

Trouble is, he wants to preserve the 5.1 surround as a 5.1 AC3. ffmpeggui will only produce 2 channel AC3 output

[celtic_druid]

ffmpeg itself can do 5.1 though. Guess the GUI needs updating.

[marinerules]

i will try that progrma but first i have a friend I have found on the inernet that owns a trailer website , he is oging to be sending me a very expensive program, that will do this ,

you extract each audio channel out of the mov as a wmv and this program puts it back together for ac3

im just wanting to get it from him

[TaoTeWingChun]

I wouldn't discuss the particular details of what software costs and how you'll be getting it - that's grounds for being warned about warez . . .

TTWC