VirtualDub!

[Goldman123]

Is there an alternative to this? That doesn't make the new video file bigger?

Got a 175 mb video file......came out 365 Megs...


Anyways to stop this?

[sacajaweeda]

Use a differnt codec. RGB isn't for the HDD space impaired. As for alternatives....none that are worth it, IMHO.

[Goldman123]

And that doesn't lower the quality... I got the Video Dub article ... and geeze... quality of the video went down big time!

Doo doo doo

[Goldman123]

Use a differnt codec. RGB isn't for the HDD space impaired.

Used XVID Codec...

Which was needed (installed) to open the video up...

[sacajaweeda]

Learn how to use it.

[Goldman123]

oopsy Hmmm ok

[kschang]

Some codecs don't like being recompressed stuff. I've had DIVX files that got bloated to 5 time sthe original size after small alterations. Turns out some how the stuff got dithered when reduced in size and divx hates dithering.

But don't blame the tool just yet when there's so many other things that affects the quality and size of the resulting file. One of the most common mistakes with VDub is FORGOT to compress the audio.

[Goldman123]

Some codecs don't like being recompressed stuff. I've had DIVX files that got bloated to 5 time sthe original size after small alterations. Turns out some how the stuff got dithered when reduced in size and divx hates dithering.

But don't blame the tool just yet when there's so many other things that affects the quality and size of the resulting file. One of the most common mistakes with VDub is FORGOT to compress the audio.

How do you remember or do this?

[Goldman123]

And the only thing that was altered to the video was a black edge all around it, so we can see the subtitles n stuff on the tv.

[sacajaweeda]

Sorry, but there simply is no legitimacy to your complaints about VirtualDub's software. It is universally acknowledged as being undisputedly top notch. Don't be so quick to knock it just because you haven't learned how to use it yet. Spend some time reading some guides and educate yourself on the matter.

[Goldman123]

Yeah.

Just re-encoding an awesome looking anime, then getting the end result with the problem fixed....but the quality severed, along with doubled in size... makes not re-encoding a better deal...

And can tick some1 off... 8)

[kschang]

Anime can be a special case, as anime use simple colors that in original form should be easy to compress. The problem is after it was compressed, and decompressed, the artifacts that were introduced in the compressed are harder to squeeze back, esp. when you use a different codec (i.e. algorithm) to compress it.

There are some filters that can help with this, but that'll slow down your dubbing time.

Convolution and other spatial / temporal filters may help. I remember reading about some filters that speciafically to smooth anime but preserving the edges and such, but I can't recall which ones now.

[Goldman123]

Anime can be a special case, as anime use simple colors that in original form should be easy to compress. The problem is after it was compressed, and decompressed, the artifacts that were introduced in the compressed are harder to squeeze back, esp. when you use a different codec (i.e. algorithm) to compress it.

There are some filters that can help with this, but that'll slow down your dubbing time.

Convolution and other spatial / temporal filters may help. I remember reading about some filters that speciafically to smooth anime but preserving the edges and such, but I can't recall which ones now.

Awesome thanks, more light has been released... Some1 will recall sooner or later!

[striker9]

If you just want to cut commercials out you can use avidemux, it doesn't make you re-encode at all.

[jimmalenko]

Learn how to use it.

That's probably the most important point. Virtualdub is not at fault here - it is clearly a problem between the keyboard and the chair.

Filesize is solely reliant on running time and bitrates used, so if your running time is the same, then it's an increase in your bitrates causing the increase in file-size. It doesn't matter what program you use, if you tell it to use a higher bitrate it will.

[kschang]

I remember reading about some filters that speciafically to smooth anime but preserving the edges and such, but I can't recall which ones now.

Found them on Neuron2.net website, where they archive a lot of the filters. I think it's WSmooth and WSharpen, among others. The DUP filter should also help.

[Goldman123]

Learn how to use it.

That's probably the most important point. Virtualdub is not at fault here - it is clearly a problem between the keyboard and the chair.

Filesize is solely reliant on running time and bitrates used, so if your running time is the same, then it's an increase in your bitrates causing the increase in file-size. It doesn't matter what program you use, if you tell it to use a higher bitrate it will.

Used same bitrate... still doubled in size

Found them on Neuron2.net website, where they archive a lot of the filters. I think it's WSmooth and WSharpen, among others. The DUP filter should also help.

Cool thanks

[Goldman123]

Nevermind, didn't use same bitrate... Thanks for point that out

[Goldman123]

How's avisynth?

[kschang]

Think of AVISynth as a command-line version of VDub, and you wouldn't be too far off. On the other hand, it's quite flexible and can do a lot of stuff in near real-time...

[sacajaweeda]

I use VirtualDubMod mostly as a companion to AviSynth. I use CCE for encoding the majority of the video I create so I'm using a script to do all my filtering, resizing, cropping, subtitling or adjusting levels and whatnot anyway so the script editor they incorporated into that version of VDub it is nice for using it to preview stuff before I fire it off to the encoder. I used to use VDub much more frequently for a lot more stuff when I was working with VCDs & stuff but nowadays I'm dealing with pretty much nothing but DVD-Video. AviSynth uses most of the same filters as VDub does and for me, using a script is a lot more handy.

To the OP:
Don't get discouraged with VDub. Once you've fiddled around with it enough and read up and learned some stuff you'll see what a truly remarkable piece of freeware it really is. It's a little clunky and confusing starting out but give it a chance. It's considerably more powerful and versatile than a good many payware editing software packages out there.