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    Hi,

    I've made a short animated film that has a runtime of 7 mins 30 secs.
    NTSC - 720 x 480 with audio.

    I'm using Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5
    I tried exporting to DVD from the final rendered edit but it was taking forever. After about 8 hours it was only done about 45% and I'm running an Athlon 64 3400+ 2.2 Ghz processor with 2 GB of RAM.

    I wasn't sure if it was the plugins I was using (Using 3 Magic Bullet Editors Plugins - the main killer being the Sepia tone filter)
    But I think it had more to do with the settings I gave when I went to export to DVD. I'm running Adobe's MPEG Encoder.

    Anyway I've exported it as a DV avi uncompressed file now which took about 4 hours to render out all the plugins.

    What would you video kings suggest would be the fastest way to get it from DV to DVD in the shortest render time.
    It should do it much faster as a DV AVI right?

    I'm not looking for any kind of menus or anything - just a pop in DVD and automatically plays kind of thing. I was using Premiere's File > Export to DVD option but that seems to take way too long.

    So my final questions to sum up are
    1. What's the fastest way I can get this DV avi burnt to DVD with the best quality without any menus.

    2. If my simplest option is to just use Export to DVD, what are the best settings I could use to speed up the process.
    I was selecting the
    NTSC DV 4x3 HighQuality 7MB VBR 2 Pass Surcode for Dolby Digital 5.1
    preset which I think was overkill.

    If you have any other options or links to any comprehensive guides on using a particular software please post them. I checked Doom9's DV to DVD guide which seems very detailed but it didn't mention anything about speed differences. And most of the guides I've found in searches are all for authoring a pro dvd with menus which isn't what I need at the moment.
    Most importantly I'm looking for the fastest technique to get this on DVD.

    Big thanks to all of you who respond and have taken the time to read this post.
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    Busy week I see ...

    There's something rotten going on if its taking that long on those system specs ... I'd have thrown the pc out the window after 30 minutes ... Its way too slow , not the pc , but whatever is causing it to run so slow .

    There may be a setting in the bios that allows you to stop the "throtling" of the cpu , which will allow the pc too run at full processor speed at all times ... what a pain that thing is ... a lame idea if ever there was .. no wait .. the pro motherboards with 2 fans on them was a right cracker .

    Check amd website for updates , there's a patch for the system you should install that can also modify this throtling cpu effect .

    Also check what is running in the background (start - run , type - msconfig) , goto startup tab , and pretty well disable all .

    If avg antivirus is listed , leave it alone .

    If nortons antivirus is installed ... my advice ... throw it as far as you can and blow it up , kill it stone dead .. it is the best way to slow a good system down too a halt .

    After disabling things , hit apply , restart pc .

    Rotten thing kept letting nasties into my pc all the time ... avg dose the job without slowing the pc down , and its cheaper and you get 2 years updates with that .

    Go into control panel , system , advanced tab , performance , settings , disable eveything you see with a tick in them , apply , ok , out of control panel ... you may not like it , but this dose increase the system performance as its not having to do all that fancy rubbish no more

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    Now for the actual question :

    Depending on that dv format , you could just try bbmpeg (avi2mpeg) , and add that dv file , if it wont load in bbmpeg_vfw , then that dv file needs to be processed first using a dv conversion tool ... its here on the site , a free one , just cant recall the name right now ... it just converts dv to different form , still a dv file , but it can then be opened by bbmpeg .

    Settings , check all tabs , for mpeg2 , nstc as well , then let it rip , close bbmpeg .

    Open mpeg using virtualdub , go to file , file info , check audio khz .
    If not 48khz , goto audio tab , full processing , then conversion , set to 48khz , then goto file , save wav .

    Close virtualdub when done .

    Besweet , click input , in next window , change under "enter file name" to wav , then locate folder with ripped audio file in it , double click to choose it , click ok .

    Click "Ac3 & Ogg" button , then choose bitrate required , no lower than 96 .

    Hit "wav to ac3" button and wait .

    Batchdemux , locate original mpeg as created by bbmpeg , and demux streams , delete the audio file it creates , keep the m2v stream .

    Muxman , add m2v video stream , then that new ac3 audio stream , set language , choose folder output location , and let it go .

    Beaware , you may need to use rejig for nstc , I dont recall which one has a problem with nstc ... for me , I havent seen this problem as yet , so I cant say what the actual problem is as reported by others .

    These files , the newly created ifo , bup , and vob file can be burn using imagetools , it will place them correctly into a video_ts folder for you , just burn at 4 speed ...

    Those wanting to burn at max speed dont care if the files exist today , but are gone tomorrow ...

    And when you get used to these tools , you'll find that you have those 7 minute dv files done in under 30 minutes ... alot faster ...

    The tools again :

    Batchdemux
    Dv conversion (check tools download section on site)
    Virtualdub
    Bbmpeg
    Besweet
    Imagetools
    Muxman or rejig

    Simple .

    No menu , but should play automatically upon insert into any player .

    Thats the fun and easy method ...

    Checkout my guides in the forum for more ...
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    Or, you could try vso DivX to DVD and be done in about 15 minutes (for your 7.5 min. clip) with AC3 audio, ready to burn.
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    Hi Bjs,

    Thank you for the long comprehensive repy Appreciate it.
    Haha, yes very busy week. I'm pretty much making this film completely by myself. It's an animated 3d short film with vocals for my thesis.
    So the rigging, animation, compositing, editing, sound editing, mixing has definitely got me beat at this point. Running on coffee and red bull.
    It's definitely not the system. I actually have the system highly optimized I would say. It runs pretty fast when I have Premiere, Photoshop, Sony Vegas, Maya and Premiere all open and loaded with heavy files. I'm also a big anti-Norton..er and I'm also anti-Windows-look-at-our-cheap-Apple-wannabe-skins that only serve to slow your machine down

    Anyway I found that it was the preset I was choosing that was killing it.
    stay away from that 7MB VBR High Quality 2 Pass Dolby Digital Surcode preset.
    I did it with the 7 MB VBR 1 pass and it did it in about 15 mins. Wish I'd known that before but like all over-paranoid and over-cautious perfectionist-wannabe Premiere newbies I just looked for the very highest quality I could find and tried that
    But I think that doing it directly from a DV Avi instead of netted sequence of a ton of edits and 3 heavy plugins defintely made a difference. That took about 6 hrs to render.

    Thanks again to all replies. Now if anyone can help me out with this issue I posted now in restoration thread that would be cool
    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=287187&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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