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    G'Day All

    I've just upgraded from Ulead VS7 to VS9 and a friend gave me his Sony DVD Mini Camcorder to combine a couple mini discs to 1 DVD. I've transferred all the files from the camcorder to the HD and I imported a clip just to check the properties so I could match them up with the project settings. I've checked through the guides, but don't see anything obvious that pertains to this particular setup. So this is where I'm just a little confused as to the settings I need. Just wondering if someone could have a peek and give me a some pointers.

    Video Clip properties

    File Format: NTSC DVD

    Video:

    Video Type: MPEG-2 Video, Upper Field First
    Attributes: 24 Bits 720x480. 16:9
    Frame Rate: 29.970fps
    Data Rate: Variable Bit Rate(Max 9100kbps)

    Audio:

    Audio Type: Dolby digital audio 48,000 Hz, 2/0(L/R)
    Layer: none
    Bit Rate: 448kbps

    Video Studio 9 Project Options General Tab Settings I've Chosen

    Data Track: Audio and Video
    Frame Rate: 29.97 Frames/Second
    Frame Type: Upper Field First
    Frame Size: 720x480
    Display Aspect Ratio: 16:9

    Video Studio 9 Project Options Compression Tab Settings

    This is the one that stumps me a little as I can't even go that high when picking an Audio bit rate when MPEG Format is chosen. Do I need to "check" the DVD-VR box and then pick "Stereo" or "Dual Channel" as these are the options available when that box is ticked. Havn't done this format before, but would like to match the settings of the project to the clips.


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    Originally Posted by MAXIMUS01CAN
    G'Day All

    I've just upgraded from Ulead VS7 to VS9 and a friend gave me his Sony DVD Mini Camcorder to combine a couple mini discs to 1 DVD. I've transferred all the files from the camcorder to the HD and I imported a clip just to check the properties so I could match them up with the project settings.
    So the original material is a couple of MinDV tapes?

    These should be captured to the HDD using the "DV" capture setting. Project settings should be DV format. Capture will consume 13.5GB per hour. Video will be DV format and audio will be PCM. Then you should edit in DV/PCM format. Quality will be considerably lower if you capture to "DVD MPeg2".

    When you've finished DV/PCM editing you have two ways to get to a DVD. You can use "Share" - "Create Video File" and select DVD MPeg2 (with editable settings). This will give you the greatest manual control* of the internal Mainconcept MPeg2 encoder settings. Then you would import the resulting MPeg2 file into the Video Studio DVD authoring component or another DVD authoring program.

    Or, you can auto select "Share" - "Create Disc" - "DVD" and author your DVD. The program will then manage MPeg2 settings to compress your DV timeline to fit a DVD.


    *Best quality for MiniDV source would be one hour per DVD at approximately these settings: 8000 CBR (PCM audio) or 8500 CBR AC-3 224 (or MP2 224 audio ). I prefer CBR for MiniDV sources.

    or if you prefer VBR 9000 max, 8500 ave ~4000 min with AC-3 or MP2 audio.
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    edDV,

    These are not mini DV, but sony DVD mini discs, with DVD compliant MPEG's already on them. You can take the 8cm 1.4 Gb DVD discs and play them right in your set top from the camcorder once you've finalized them in the camera.

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    OK sorry for the confusion. Then you are forced to import and edit the MPeg2 file. This is a much lower quality source. Try to match project settings to the imported MPeg2 or it will recompress at import and recompress again during authoring.

    If you intend to heavily edit and add effects you would want to use fully decompressed project settings (e.g. compression = none). The Mpeg2 files would decompress on import. The authoring process would encode back to DVD MPeg2.
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    Thanks for the feedback edDV, The only stumbling block I seem to have here is with getting the project settings the same as the MPEG-2 files that I've already added and edited. Can't I then just go directly to Share>Make DVD>Same as project settings and then create the Video_TS and Audio_TS instead of burning DVD.......then>Burn With Nero. I'm just wondering if that tick box for DVD-VR compliant video is all I need as DVD-Video Recorders (I'm guessing it's referring to "Set Top" recorders)should be in the same format as the Sony DVD Mini disc as they can both be played directly in your DVD player. It gives the option of "Dual Channel" or "Stereo" if ticked. I may be mistaken about that point though as I'm just guessing. Maybe there's something in the help files, but I doubt it as the information in there is limited. If I could just get the project settings to match I should be able to just create the files and burn with nero

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    Originally Posted by MAXIMUS01CAN
    Thanks for the feedback edDV, The only stumbling block I seem to have here is with getting the project settings the same as the MPEG-2 files that I've already added and edited. Can't I then just go directly to Share>Make DVD>Same as project settings and then create the Video_TS and Audio_TS instead of burning DVD.......then>Burn With Nero. I'm just wondering if that tick box for DVD-VR compliant video is all I need as DVD-Video Recorders (I'm guessing it's referring to "Set Top" recorders)should be in the same format as the Sony DVD Mini disc as they can both be played directly in your DVD player. It gives the option of "Dual Channel" or "Stereo" if ticked. I may be mistaken about that point though as I'm just guessing. Maybe there's something in the help files, but I doubt it as the information in there is limited. If I could just get the project settings to match I should be able to just create the files and burn with nero

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    I haven't used DVD camcorder files so I can't help with that. Just let the encoder work on what you have. Worse case its another recode.

    DVD-VR is something else (consult google or your manual) and should be unchecked.
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    Thanks edDV,

    Okay, I'll give it a go just with the recode, thought I might just be able to go directly to create disc with the correct project settings and render out the Video_TS and Audio_TS files without having to do another render in the middle to create a MPEG-2 file when the clips are already in that format.

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  8. I've read through these posts.

    It seems to me the confusion begins when you select your DVD audio type.

    Your screen shot suggests you are adjusting your audio to be "MPEG Audio."

    Why?

    That audio type doesn't match the audio type specified by your source clip properties, which read:

    "Dolby digital audio 48,000 Hz, 2/0(L/R)"

    So instead of selecting MPEG AUDIO, it would seem more logical that you would instead select AC-3 AUDIO in the AUDIO FORMAT drop-down list.

    I just did so in MediaStudio Pro 7.0 and then I was allowed to access the 448kbps bit rate.

    If you are selecting MPEG AUDIO, you will force a re-render of your source audio.

    Remember, "DOLBY DIGITAL" refers to AC-3 DVD AUDIO.

    So to avoid a re-render, you should selected AC-3.

    Version 9.0 of Ulead VideoStudio features full support for AC-3 (unlike version 7.0).

    So you should see the AC-3 option in the drop-down list of Version 9.0. If not, there's something wrong.

    Hope this helps,

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  9. By way of explanation, I should add that there are basically THREE types of DVD AUDIO.

    1. LPCM (uncompressed, high quality, and recognized by all players but it consumes space).

    2. MPEG Audio (decent quality, doesn't consume much space, but isn't recognized by *some* DVD players.

    3. AC-3 (Dolby) (compressed so it takes very little space, great quality, and plays almost universally).

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    Originally Posted by Specialist

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    That audio type doesn't match the audio type specified by your source clip properties, which read:

    "Dolby digital audio 48,000 Hz, 2/0(L/R)"

    So instead of selecting MPEG AUDIO, it would seem more logical that you would instead select AC-3 AUDIO in the AUDIO FORMAT drop-down list.
    FYI: The AC-3 plugin is a $29 option for Ulead Video Studio.
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    Thanks for the help Jerry, I'm going to check it out, but I don't remember seeing AC-3 as an option....I don't think I have that option in VS9 and if I don't I'll be really P****d off as that's why I upgraded in the first place was to get the AC-3 capability to handlle this particular type of audio. I may be wrong though I'll have to check it out before I "go off" on Ulead for charging extra for something that should be included in the forst place or I might as well have stayed with VS7.......... Re: Dolby AC-3 stuff just had a quick look and it appears that it should do this "Support for All Popular Formats - You can work with almost any video, image and audio file formats available including AVI, MPEG, QT, Sony MicroMV™, WMV, BMP, JPEG, GIF, TIF, MP3, Dolby® Digital, AIFF, WAV and lots more." Hope this isn't just a blanket B*S* statement

    Anyway, thanks for all the help guys and I'm going to get this thing done if it kills me.

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    Just an update on the DVD Mini Camcorder Saga, Did pretty much as Jerry said but had to do it in the Custom settings in Share>Custom>Then, Set the properties the same as the clips noted in the previous posts, including 16:9 format and Dolby Digital Audio. I guess it's important to note that these settings are not available when choosing MPEG format defaults in File>Project Properties..........The encoding process didn't take much longer than an hour to finish so I'm sure there was some smart rendering going on there. Normally this step would take around 3 hrs to complete a 1.5 hr project into a MPEG II compliant video file ready for authoring to a DVD file. Once burned onto a DVD everything looks great with the 16:9 format and no problems with Stretched or Squished looking video. It does bother me that I had to be directed to the "Custom Settings" to set the project settings. Once I found out that all the settings required were available there it was pretty much a snap. I guess you live and learn with the help of others. I never noticed the preview screen go "Black" when the rendering was being completed, but I might mess around with the smart rendering a little more later. As far as bringing in the Video and pics, from the mini DVD discs I just copied them directely from the camera to my HD using the Sony software and found that to be a very painless process. I then just inserted the video clips into the project timeline. Again Thanks for the help. I'll try and help with anyone's questions if I can

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