Adding a subtitle..

[The14thGOD]

I have a DVD and its in Japanese, and well I need to add the subtitles to it. Just throwing it out here, seeing if anyone knows how to add a .sub file to a dvd..thanks in advance.

[daamon]

Hi The14thGOD,

Have you searched the forums? Have you tried any guides listed on this site?

If not, go down that road first and then come back if / when you get stuck.

If you have searched / tried guides, share which posts or guides you're stuck on...

[The14thGOD]

i really don't understand any of them, i did this one, idk if its one linked on here but it was easier to follow, http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=135193

im currently testing it to see if it works but i dont think it's going to
i dont thinkt he subs are gonna show, i didnt make the subs or anything, they were standard .sub and i had to re make it into a .srt, so i could make a .sup for it via subtitle creator....
ill let you know how it turns out but if u have any suggestions or see something i may have misread/understood/ did wrong please let me know.

[The14thGOD]

yep, no subs were present

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I am truly sorry for this 2nd post and hope idont get in trouble for it, but i have found this guide:
http://subtitlecreator.sourceforge.net/AddingSubtitles2aDVD.htm
and i am on step 4, the question that i have is, where am i supposed to store the .SUP file? it doesn't say. am i supposed to throw it in the VIDEO_TS folder or the AUDIO_TS folder? or just leave it where it is (in the folder that holds those 2 folders, so in one folder we have :
AUDIO_TS
VIDEO_TS
X.SUP

i am also confused as to this:
Tip: Before I run PgcDemux, I execute a small script (setdvd.bat, stored in my Windows directory, so I can always run it), which contains the following three lines, and which I run from the DVDshrink output directory:

md AUDIO_TS

md VIDEO_TS

copy VTS_01_0.IFO AUDIO_TS

In the AUDIO_TS folder, the de-multiplexed (step 4: *.m2v, *.ac3, and *.sup) files go (see selection in Figure 4, step 2).

In the VIDEO_TS folder, we will put the newly multiplexed movie.
This has the advantage that it has the same structure as a DVD, which is needed by some software players, like WinDVD, when playing from a file.

anyone able to elaborate?

again sorry for the dbl post, and thanks in advance.

-The14thGOD-
if you need me to elaborate more i can

i tried step 4, and my audio turned out okay but my Video file has gone from 1hour 30 mins 38seconds down to 51 mins 51 seconds. I think it's an FPS issue? but how would i fix that...or does it fix itself later on in the steps..

[manono]

Hi-

and i am on step 4, the question that i have is, where am i supposed to store the .SUP file?

Demux the assets using PGCDemux, and add the SUP file into the same folder where the audio, video, and celltimes.txt (the chapters) are. Then remux with Muxman or IFOEdit, this time adding in the subs with the other stuff.

The subtitle file (SUP) is going to get remuxed with the other assets. It doesn't remain separate, as with an AVI, but will wind up inside the Vobs.

Forget the batch file. It's not needed. After you've authored the DVD, and tested it out, Create an empty AUDIO_TS file, and a VIDEO_TS file into which you'll put your newly created IFO, BUP, and VOB files, ready for burning. So, when ready for burning, you'll have a (NAME_OF_MOVIE) file, inside of which are both the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS files, and inside the VIDEO_TS file will be the DVD files. That's the purpose of the batch file; to create those files automatically for you.

i tried step 4, and my audio turned out okay but my Video file has gone from 1hour 30 mins 38seconds down to 51 mins 51 seconds.

No it didn't. You just think it did. Players often don't give you the correct length of MPV, M2V, or VOB files. Just go ahead and remux.

[The14thGOD]

alright, now im stuck on step 5 part 2 ^_^
it says select the Audio TS with the original IFO and i dont have an Audio TS with the original
i have a
F:\Subtitle Project\Video_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO instead..
and i went down to the color's and it has the same colors as the pic.. like the lines match up etc...

[manono]

Hi-

They aren't in the AUDIO_TS because you didn't use the batch file to create it and then stick the demuxed files in there. Forget loading the original IFO (although if using Rejig to author, I guess you could). I fix the sub colors after the authoring stage by opening the DVD in PGCEdit, double-clicking on the movie, and then fixing the colors (outline=black, and the main color whatever you want), saving and testing before burning.

You're making this harder than it really is. Here's an IFOEdit authoring guide, if you want to try another way:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-<a class="contentlink" href="http://www.videohelp.com...author</a>.htm

You can start below Step 4, where he has "Author New DVD" highlighted. You already have the Celltimes.text, which he describes getting earlier in step 4. It'll also tell you how to get the original colors from the original subs, if you don't do it the PGCEdit way I described earlier.

[The14thGOD]

Well here's an interesting thing..it works, but uh...my english subs were transformed into japanese...

edit:
it turns out there is a jap sub on the dvd, idk how i missed it, is that what could have cuased a mess up in the thing?
do i need to restart?

[daamon]

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-<a class="contentlink" href="http://www.videohelp.com...author</a>.htm

No need to put the [ url] and [ /url] around a URL. Just put the www.etc. in the text:

www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-dvdauthor.htm

For irregular ones that dont have a www at the front, then use [ url] and [ /url].

[The14thGOD]

well so i re did it and i cant even test my dvd...everything crashes, VLC player, WMP, hotlama dvd cant even play it, interactive dvd wont play it ; /. and then the IFOedit crahes also when trying to preview it with subs on...

[The14thGOD]

screw it this is BS

[manono]

Thanks, daamon. Sorry for not checking before posting. Lets try it again:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-dvdauthor.htm

Nope, doesn't work. Yours doesn't either. Gotta cut and paste it. Must have something to do with having dvdauthor in the name.

No, you may not have to redo the authoring step, The14thGOD. However, are you sure that 1) you created English subs, and then added them into the subs when authoring? That is, did you add 2 sub streams, the Japanese and the English? And 2), are you sure that the Jap subs aren't burned into the video? You can check by just playing one of the vobs. If the Japanese subs show up, then you'll be stuck with showing 2 sub streams at the same time. You may have to redo the English ones so that they don't show up on top of the Japanese ones, but above them, or below them. This also assumes the subs you created are good DVD compliant subs. I don't create them the way you did, and don't know how to tell you if they are. And no, English subs don't magically turn into Japanese subs.

Anyway, to make the new subs show up, you can do one of two things. One is to not add the Japanese subs into the mix when authoring. The other, if you want to keep the Japanese subs as well as the English subs, is to turn on the English subs using PGCEdit. First, open the movie in PGCEdit and double-click on the movie. When the new screen opens up, in the upper right where the sub pictures are located, you should already see something for the Jap subs, by the "0". They should say "0", and not "None" if there are already some Japanese subs in there. You want to turn on the "1" by clicking on it. If this is a 4:3 DVD, then after clicking, change 4:3 to a "1", and if a 16:9 DVD, change "Wide" to a "1", and "Letterbox" to a 1. Then hit the "Set" button just below, OK your way out of there, Save, and Test.

If the Jap subs are burned into the video, then when you check them out in PGCEdit, all the possible sub streams will say "None". Then you want to turn on the new English subs by hitting the "0" (first) stream, and if 4:3, just hit "Set", and if 16:9, also just hit "Set". OK your way out of there, Save, and Test.

If there are really 2 sets of subs, the Japanese ones and your new English ones, you can reauthor, leaving out the Japanese ones, and replacing them with your new English ones. Then you can still go into PGCEdit to change the language from "ja" to "en" after hitting "current domain stream attributes" in the lower left screen. You could also change the menu to replace where it says "Japansese" subs to "English" subs, but that's more advanced stuff.

Edit: I see you're having more problems. Could be that your SUP subs aren't any good for one reason or another? Or did you run Pulldown.exe after encoding, if you encoded for 23.976fps progressive? I guess it couldn't be authored if that were the case. What error messages do you get if you try and open the DVD in PGCEdit?

[The14thGOD]

ive already wasted 3 dvds on this pos thing so thats why im giving up

i get some no valid DVD-Video file or something, i already erased all the files.

thanks for your help and putting up with my stupidity.

/bow

[manono]

Ah, that's OK, no problem. Maybe get your feet wet with some easier backup projects and then tackle this one again. You can PM me if you ever want a walk-through. I've done several projects adding and replacing subs in DVDs.

[daamon]

Thanks, daamon. Sorry for not checking before posting. Lets try it again:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-dvdauthor.htm

Nope, doesn't work. Yours doesn't either. Gotta cut and paste it. Must have something to do with having dvdauthor in the name.

Yeah - I reckon so, I checked out the link after you mentioned it and I see what you mean. I wonder if posting the link and ticking "Disable automatic tool link" before submitting would make a difference:

www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-dvdauthor.htm

EDIT: Yep, works now.

ive already wasted 3 dvds on this pos thing

By yourself a re-writeable DVD and experiment (if possible) on a short piece of footage (say 5 mins) to save you time.