I want to build a top of the line computer that is fast.....

[Ripperkhan]

The Best Parts Out Right Now For Computer...I want to build a new fast top of the line computer..And I need your help..What are the top best stuff out right now to make a fast computer..Because I want a fast kickass computer..And I'm having trouble finding the best stuff..So please help..

[buzz10]

I just built a computer specifically to make VCD's with, and I wanted speed. Here's what I put together:

AMD Athlon XP1600.
Maxtor 40 Gig 7200RPM ATA-100 hard drive.
256 Meg of DDR PC2100 RAM (266mhz).
FIC AD-11 motherboard with 266mhz front side bus.
Windows XP.

I'm sure there are faster systems out there, depending on how much you want to spend, but I'm very happy with this. It will encode a 45 minute 352x240 AVI file into an MPEG-1 352x240 video CBR2375kbps 29.97fps 224kbps audio in 2.02 hours (using TMPGenc). So, I'm happy, considering I used to have an AMD K6-500 that took forever.

[marvel2020]

Same here, i just upgraded from a -

P3 600mhz
384meg PC100 SDRAM
40GB Fugitsu 7200rpm harddrive
Gigabyte BX2000 Mobo
Windows 98SE

TO A -

AMD 1.33Ghz DDR FSB266
768MB PC2600 DDR Memory
40GB Fugitsi 7200rpm Harddrive
40GB IBM DESKSTAR 7200rpm Slave Harddrive
Gigabyte GA-7DXR Mobo
Windows XP Professional Edition


And now instead of taking between 10 and 12 hours to encode a 2 hour film into a VCD on my old P3 system, it now only takes me 4 and a half hours max, to do it on my new system.

Haven't tried encoding to SVCD yet, but i know that it will take longer to do, but it should'nt be that much longer than what i'm encoding to VCD.

After Xmas i'll be putting in an AMD XP1900 cpu and will increase the memory to 1 or 2 gig's.

[JStyle]

I'm on P2 300 64mb ram and it takes me 8-9 hours to make vcds and svcds and i was wondering does upgrading to a faster cpu speed up the process or does upgrading to more ram do the work? I know upgrading both would be great but between the two which is the better upgrade?

[buzz10]

JStyle, I think you would see the biggest improvement if you upgraded your CPU, but that usually means you will have to also upgrade your Motherboard and RAM. Keep this in mind also - video capturing requires a fast and big hard drive (think 7200RPM ATA-100), and video converting requires a fast CPU (think 600mhz or higher).

[BerrantRyke]

Hmmm...

i have two PC's set up on a home LAN:

1) P4 1.2GHZ w/ 256 MB ram
40 GB hdd, 20 GB hdd
Win ME (yuck!)
CD-RW and a DVD-ROM


2) AMD 800 Mhz w/ 296 MB ram
20 GB hdd
Win 98SE
CD-ROM and a CD-RW

i am at work, and dont remember the mobo I put in the #2 PC, but I use #2 to process and encode the viedos over my LAN. (store the files on #1)

[THE RIPPER]

If your looking for the fastest computer for TMPGE then you definitely want to build yourself a dual athlon system.I can encode a 2 hr movie in about 1:40 min.

TYAN TIGER MP
2x 1800 MP
ATI 8500DV
60 GIG MAXTOR
16x DVD
24X BURNER
1024 DDR RAM

[Douglesh]

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On 2001-12-24 23:14:59, Ripperkhan wrote:
The Best Parts Out Right Now For Computer...I want to build a new fast top of the line computer..And I need your help..What are the top best stuff out right now to make a fast computer..Because I want a fast kickass computer..And I'm having trouble finding the best stuff..So please help..

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My reccomendation

AMD Athlon XP 1600 (Best Value for performance AMD chip)
Abit KR7A-Raid (ATA133, softmenu III, 4DDR Slots)
OR
Asus A7V266-E (Next best AMD Board)
40gig Maxtor ATA133 drive
512MB DDR2100
Sound Blaster LIVE!
300WATT Midi Tower Case
Lots of Coolers (Cooler card, HDD Cooler, CPU Cooler, MD Cooler)

Thats all i can recommend

[disturbed1]

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On 2001-12-25 03:20:30, THE RIPPER wrote:
If your looking for the fastest computer for TMPGE then you definitely want to build yourself a dual athlon system.I can encode a 2 hr movie in about 1:40 min.

TYAN TIGER MP
2x 1800 MP
ATI 8500DV
60 GIG MAXTOR
16x DVD
24X BURNER
1024 DDR RAM
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Same ~speed from a P4 1500 768mb PC800. 1:1 (Yes that's real time) VCD to DVD encoding with TMPG 2.02.

TMPG takes advantage of SSE2.

[sommersby]

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On 2001-12-25 03:39:48, disturbed1 wrote:
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On 2001-12-25 03:20:30, THE RIPPER wrote:
If your looking for the fastest computer for TMPGE then you definitely want to build yourself a dual athlon system.I can encode a 2 hr movie in about 1:40 min.

TYAN TIGER MP
2x 1800 MP
ATI 8500DV
60 GIG MAXTOR
16x DVD
24X BURNER
1024 DDR RAM
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Same ~speed from a P4 1500 768mb PC800. 1:1 (Yes that's real time) VCD to DVD encoding with TMPG 2.02.

TMPG takes advantage of SSE2.

Same speed with an atholon 1600+xp and I have seen reports of people getting better than 2:1 speed, thats 1 hour for a 2 hour movie, with the AMD 1900+ xp.

[SanitizeME]

Why Sounblaster Live? Get the new Audigy.
How about a flat panel too? then again those costs a lot...

[THE RIPPER]

First off, i use the highest quality settings when encoding my movies,second theres no reason to lie to this kid.Why tell him that single cpu's are just as quick in tmpge.As for the p4 1.5 i'll whip that with one cpu.

[THE RIPPER]

Also i'm talking about encoding dvd rips, not downloaded movies.

[disturbed1]

Ripper,
again,

DVD 2 VCD 1:1. Yes that is real time.

Default VCD template, High quality slow. Using floating point DCT (has to be enabled with a P4). Soften Block noise, 35,35. GOP of 1,4,2.

Lie, why?

Look in the TMPG dir, see that file called P4Package.dll hmmmm, what's that 4?

The dual AMD should walk all over the P4, maybe you should tweak your settings.

Hell, sommersby's system is just as fast, with ONE AMD 1600!?

So is he a liar too?


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[disturbed1]

@sommersby

2x real time w/1900xp? Can you confirm that.

I have a couple Socket A's that could use an upgrade.

Just curious as to your CCE speeds with the 1600xp.

With DVD2SVCD mine's 1.4-1.6, no SSE2 support

I've heard peeps stating ~1.8 with 1600's? Sound close?
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As for the debate.

AMD = Speed+low price, great combo.

P4 = best for capture. I have two pinnacle cards (DC10+, and DC30) and a Dazzle DVCII. None would run correctly in my AMD boards. Haven't had a problem out of my P4 (owned it for about 7 months now). No updates needed either.

NForce? When/If it gets here.

[THE RIPPER]

TO DISTURBED Member
Posted: 2001-11-30 12:27
Yes there is a BIG difference. To give you an idea look at the following:

My laptop:

PIII 866 - 256Meg Ram
Encoding on this machine alone for a 2 hour movie is 12 hours!

My Desktop:

P4 2.0Ghz - 3Gig Ram - 1.7Tb HD Space
The same 2 hour movie encoded on this machine is 4 hours!

The movie that was encoded was - Die Hard - There is a very big difference in encoding and DVD2AVI between the two machines. If you plan on buying a P4 2.0 - It will be worth every penny!
YEA YOUR A LIAR......

[Douglesh]

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On 2001-12-25 03:20:30, THE RIPPER wrote:
If your looking for the fastest computer for TMPGE then you definitely want to build yourself a dual athlon system.I can encode a 2 hr movie in about 1:40 min.

TYAN TIGER MP
2x 1800 MP
ATI 8500DV
60 GIG MAXTOR
16x DVD
24X BURNER
1024 DDR RAM
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I dont think everyone has rich parents

[Douglesh]

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On 2001-12-25 11:16:39, SanitizeME wrote:
Why Sounblaster Live? Get the new Audigy.
How about a flat panel too? then again those costs a lot...
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The audigy costs too much, i think i would be content with sound blaster live SE, especially at less than half the price of the cheapest from the audigy series

[THE RIPPER]

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On 2001-12-25 22:23:36, Douglesh wrote:
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On 2001-12-25 03:20:30, THE RIPPER wrote:
If your looking for the fastest computer for TMPGE then you definitely want to build yourself a dual athlon system.I can encode a 2 hr movie in about 1:40 min.

TYAN TIGER MP
2x 1800 MP
ATI 8500DV
60 GIG MAXTOR
16x DVD
24X BURNER
1024 DDR RAM
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I dont think everyone has rich parents
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ACTALLY I WORK HARD TO BUY MY EQUIPMENT.

[Douglesh]

Where i live the following costs

TYAN TIGER MP - $600
2x 1800 MP - $1350
ATI 8500DV - $?
60 GIG MAXTOR - $300
16x DVD - $140
24X BURNER - $175
1024 DDR RAM - $580
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So approximately 3 grand.


You could put together a single CPU system with an athlon XP 1900 for less than half of that. Dual CPU's are a complete waste (ESPECIALLY MP'S). you pay twice the price, but only one or two applications support Mthreading.

[THE RIPPER]

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On 2001-12-25 22:23:36, Douglesh wrote:
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On 2001-12-25 03:20:30, THE RIPPER wrote:
If your looking for the fastest computer for TMPGE then you definitely want to build yourself a dual athlon system.I can encode a 2 hr movie in about 1:40 min.

TYAN TIGER MP
2x 1800 MP
ATI 8500DV
60 GIG MAXTOR
16x DVD
24X BURNER
1024 DDR RAM
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I dont think everyone has rich parents
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JUST THINK HOW MUCH MONEY YOU COULD HAVE SAVED YOUR PARENTS AND HOW MUCH TIME YOU COULD HAVE SAVED IF YOU WENT WITH AMD INSTEAD OF JUNKTEL.......

[Douglesh]

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Fair enough then. You just come off sounding like one of those rich kids. And after hearing some ****** on another board bragging about how his dad owns Cnet, and how he has dual P4 2Ghz with Dual T3, people who sound like that just piss me off. Sorry

[Douglesh]

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JUST THINK HOW MUCH MONEY YOU COULD HAVE SAVED YOUR PARENTS AND HOW MUCH TIME YOU COULD HAVE SAVED IF YOU WENT WITH AMD INSTEAD OF JUNKTEL.......
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I dont follow, i was just question a dual MP setup, not AMD's performance. Anyway, the only reason i am on intel, is because when i bought my PC (back in the days), the only AMD out was the K6-II 350Mhz. I can guarentee you though, when i do get i know PC (in the distant future) it will be an AMD

[THE RIPPER]

ACTALLY
TIGER MP WITH ONE CPU=499
60 GIG MAXTOR=150
DVD ROM=50
24x BURNER =90
CASE WITH PSU=190
1800 MP=260
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR FROM BUT I'M FROM N.Y

[THE RIPPER]

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On 2001-12-25 22:31:39, Douglesh wrote:
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Fair enough then. You just come off sounding like one of those rich kids. And after hearing some ****** on another board bragging about how his dad owns Cnet, and how he has dual P4 2Ghz with Dual T3, people who sound like that just piss me off. Sorry
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NO HARD FEELINGS DUDE,,JUST DON'T PEOPLE WHO LIE ABOUT THERE ENCODE TIMES,NOT DIRECTED TO YOU THOUGH

[tazzila]

Just me 2cents I use a p-4 1.4ghz 256mb rd800 ram 16x dvd drive and a 16x10x40 cd/rw (also have G-force3 for gaming of course)My sound card is sound blaster live with a 7200 rpm 80gig Hd. and only burn with nero5.5 It takes me about 4 1/2 hours total to rip a 2hour movie and burn it onto to cd-rs. I find this to be a acceptabe amount of time My cost on the system with a 17inch monitor flat screen 1700.oo out the door plus 100.00 store credit system price as of aug.2001

[disturbed1]

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On 2001-12-25 21:39:14, THE RIPPER wrote:
TO DISTURBED Member
Posted: 2001-11-30 12:27
Yes there is a BIG difference. To give you an idea look at the following:

My laptop:

PIII 866 - 256Meg Ram
Encoding on this machine alone for a 2 hour movie is 12 hours!

My Desktop:

P4 2.0Ghz - 3Gig Ram - 1.7Tb HD Space
The same 2 hour movie encoded on this machine is 4 hours!

The movie that was encoded was - Die Hard - There is a very big difference in encoding and DVD2AVI between the two machines. If you plan on buying a P4 2.0 - It will be worth every penny!
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Your not implying that's my post are you? Cuz it isn't.
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YEA YOUR A LIAR......

JUST DON'T PEOPLE WHO LIE ABOUT THERE ENCODE TIMES
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First off, that's totally uncalled for. Very child like I might add. Of course I'd love to bash your stupidity...

But I refuse to allow myself to become as ignorant as you.

So, here's a link of an encode I just did with my system info file showing.
2mb bitmap 22kb zipped

Please notice P4 1500, 768mb ram, TMPG VCD Film Template, and the time.

Just like I've always posted.

It was only the first vob off of Space Jam. I loaded the default VCD NTSC Film Template. It's completely unchanged besides motion search quality was set to "High Quality Slow". Aspect Ratio was "Full Screen Keep Aspect Ratio" Which is 4:3 btw.

How's that DCVII workn' with your AMD set up?

[THE RIPPER]

NICE TRY BUD,YOU ARE DEFINITELY DISTURBED,HOW BOUT SHOWING THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SCREEN WHERE IT SHOWS THE LOW QUALITY SETTING.AS FAR AS THE DAZZLE GOES,I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH MY 8500DV.

[disturbed1]

It's all there. It's a full screen shot 1024*768, even shows the clock. Bottom right hand corner (1:55 am). Here's one six minutes before that

27kb Zipped Notice 1:49am.
Don't forget to scroll.

What reason would I have a reason to lie?

TMPG is SSE2 enhanced, who ever posted about their 2gig (with 1.7tb storage?) may have used another version of TMPG, settings etc. or who knows. He's also saying it takes 12 hours to do a 2 hour encode with a 866! My Duron 850 takes 5-6 hours (1.5 hour movie).

It takes tazzila ~4.5 hours rip and burn on his 1.4. That SSE2 makes a huge difference.

My P4 1500 is right on par with AMD's 1600XP.

Now, any other program is a different story. The P4 1500 is slightly slower than the XP 1600 on nonSSE2 apps.

I'd be playing around with your settings abit more, seems like it should be faster. People with single 1900xp's are speeding along at your speed.

Take a look at this shot too. Try that setting (of course yours will say 2 cpu's)Zipped bitmap

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[sommersby]

I very seldom use CCE, and then only when useing dvd2svcd so never checked the time, The ONLY advantage you get using dual cpu's as compared to a single cpu that uses sse is that you can run other apps while encoding without affecting speed very much. And you run into a whole new bunch of problems running dual processors, I did alot of research on this before my last upgrade. Decided to stick with the single cpu. Most of my encoding is done using the provided ntsc film template and a motion setting of high using the toolame audio plug-in, and my 1gig celeron notebook does a 2 hour movie in around 6 hours.
Those who have duals are going to say they are the best, those with P4's, AMD"S, XYZ's, it is a never ending debate, just use reliable test articles, read up on all your options and make your selection. If you buy top of line anything your overall encoding time is not going to be different enough to worry about, just a matter of how much you want to spend and how much you want to mess with it.