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  1. I want to buy a DVD player that has either 720p or 1080i output via HDMI. My HDTV has a DVI connector so I need somehow to adapt the player output to the HDTV input.
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  3. Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
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    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    Does the TV support HDCP? If so it may work. Talk to the adapter company.

    If this is a current standard def DVD player, it probably doesn't require a HDCP monitor unless it says it does..
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    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    Does the TV support HDCP? If so it may work. Talk to the adapter company.

    If this is a current standard def DVD player, it probably doesn't require a HDCP monitor unless it says it does..
    The TV doesn't have HDCP. The dvd player is actually a 400 disc DVD changer with a built in scaler to up-convert to 720p or 1080i. Here is the player http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=127961&WT.mc_n=66&WT.mc_t=U&c m_ven=COMPARISON%20SHOPPING&cm_cat=DEALTIME&cm_pla =DATAFEED->PRODUCTS&cm_ite=1%20PRODUCT&cm_keycode=66
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    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    Quite simply No. This would violate the HDCP and would cause the video stream to be shut down. Everything from the transmitter to the receiver (Player to TV) needs to be HDCP compliant in order for the video to be displayed. Even playing it initially with a direct HDCP approved connection and then performing a cable swap will shut down the stream. The purpose of HDCP is a quality secure environment for HD Content. It's stream is checked in periodic intervals to ensure that the stream is secured. If it's not the video will stop playing.

    I was hoping that something like this might work where you could somehow bypass the HDCP but it's a complete secure quality assurance environment.
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  7. Here's a much less expensive source for HDMI-DVI adpaters and cables...

    http://www.pccable.com/
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    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    I'm not sure that standard DVD players with upscalers are requiring HDCP on the HDMI out. Before buying this I would confirm that a HDTV with standard DVI will work with this set.

    I haven't heard anyone complaining about this yet with standard DVD players. HD DVD players will require HDCP.
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    Originally Posted by edDV
    HD DVD players will require HDCP.
    HDCP will be a requirement across the entire stream from player to TV correct? Any devices in between must also be HDCP compliant as well?

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  10. Originally Posted by ROF
    Originally Posted by edDV
    HD DVD players will require HDCP.
    HDCP will be a requirement across the entire stream from player to TV correct? Any devices in between must also be HDCP compliant as well?

    I sense deja vu.
    That's the reason I want to buy a DVD player with a scaler output to view my old DVD collection at 1080i. I have no intention of replacing my collection with HDdvd's when all the new devices will be very expensive and way too restriction imo.
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    Originally Posted by ROF
    Originally Posted by edDV
    HD DVD players will require HDCP.
    HDCP will be a requirement across the entire stream from player to TV correct? Any devices in between must also be HDCP compliant as well?

    I sense deja vu.
    That is true. And the license requirement to maintain encryption prohibits any analog conversion in a downstream device. The original playback device may offer resolution reduced analog outputs.
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    Originally Posted by edDV
    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    I'm not sure that standard DVD players with upscalers are requiring HDCP on the HDMI out. Before buying this I would confirm that a HDTV with standard DVI will work with this set.

    I haven't heard anyone complaining about this yet with standard DVD players. HD DVD players will require HDCP.
    yes, but iirc, DVI can be made with HDCP support also, it's just a different connector type. With that in mind, HDMI-to-DVI adapters would be OK, it would then be incumbent on the display capabilities/specs as to whether it supported HDCP or not--which would determine whether you'd be able to use such an adapter.

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia
    Originally Posted by edDV
    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    I'm not sure that standard DVD players with upscalers are requiring HDCP on the HDMI out. Before buying this I would confirm that a HDTV with standard DVI will work with this set.

    I haven't heard anyone complaining about this yet with standard DVD players. HD DVD players will require HDCP.
    yes, but iirc, DVI can be made with HDCP support also, it's just a different connector type. With that in mind, HDMI-to-DVI adapters would be OK, it would then be incumbent on the display capabilities/specs as to whether it supported HDCP or not--which would determine whether you'd be able to use such an adapter.
    You would think, but it is dangerous to your wallet to assume.

    With my limited experience with HDMI sending boxes (Scientific Atlantic 8xxx HD cable boxes, etc.), they seem to default to cutting S/PDIF audio (AC-3) when HDMI video is engaged. This is a bad omen. It usually takes a call to support to find a way to restore a parallel HDMI (video) and S/PDIF (audio) path. Maybe I'm paranoid but I suspect this will be the default when HDCP becomes common reality. That is, surround audio will be forced into the HDMI path.

    If that is the case, we may be forced to buy all new audio receiver-decoders as well as all new HDMI HDTV sets.
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  14. Originally Posted by edDV
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    Originally Posted by edDV
    Originally Posted by Bob W
    Thanks. Another question is if I use the adaptor will the HDCP be bypassed so the movie will display on my HDTV with DVI input?
    I'm not sure that standard DVD players with upscalers are requiring HDCP on the HDMI out. Before buying this I would confirm that a HDTV with standard DVI will work with this set.

    I haven't heard anyone complaining about this yet with standard DVD players. HD DVD players will require HDCP.
    yes, but iirc, DVI can be made with HDCP support also, it's just a different connector type. With that in mind, HDMI-to-DVI adapters would be OK, it would then be incumbent on the display capabilities/specs as to whether it supported HDCP or not--which would determine whether you'd be able to use such an adapter.
    You would think, but it is dangerous to your wallet to assume.

    With my limited experience with HDMI sending boxes (Scientific Atlantic 8xxx HD cable boxes, etc.), they seem to default to cutting S/PDIF audio (AC-3) when HDMI video is engaged. This is a bad omen. It usually takes a call to support to find a way to restore a parallel HDMI (video) and S/PDIF (audio) path. Maybe I'm paranoid but I suspect this will be the default when HDCP becomes common reality. That is, surround audio will be forced into the HDMI path.

    If that is the case, we may be forced to buy all new audio receiver-decoders as well as all new HDMI HDTV sets.
    How about we are forced to buy nothing! I'm for sure not going to buy into the coming fiasco.
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