creating disc image in VCD Easy?

[ray3d]

I want to use VCD EASY to create a disc image file of an SVCD program on my hard-drive. All attempts I have made so far produce ".bin" and ".cue" files.

When I look at an actual SVCD there are folders labelled
"EXT", "MPEG2", "SEGMENT" and "SVCD" with data inside. These are the types of files I want to produce, so that I can email them to someone who can then burn them to a CD-ROM as data and play the disc as an SVCD.

How can I use VCD EASY to produce such an image?

[Cornucopia]

A BIN/CUE file pair IS a disc image!

Do want to mount it to compare? Use DaemonTools.

Do you want to burn it? Use Nero, CDRWin, or many many others.

Scott

[ray3d]

I just want to create a set of folders which, when burned to a CD-ROM, will function as a SVCD. I don't mind burning a CD myself, to test it.

In fact, i tried just copying the contents of a working SVCD onto my hard-drive, and the MPEG2 file could not be copied. "Incorrect parameter" error.

[ray3d]

A BIN/CUE file pair IS a disc image!

Sorry, I'm new to this.

When I use other software to produce a "disc image", I get athe folders listed in my first message.

Is there any format which produces files which can be cpoied as data to a CD-ROM so that it will play as an SVCD?

[ray3d]

Better yet, what method of burning the "bin/cue" files, (with which software), will allow my intended end user to burn a working SVCD from these files?

[Cornucopia]

Glad to help...especially for a fellow 3D enthusiast such as yourself. (I use http://www.stereo3d.com/discus regularly) 8)

When you make (S)VCD and want to burn to a DISC IMAGE, the standard file pairs of CUE/BIN actually do contain those folders you're referring to. The CUE file is a "burn list" or instructions for the burner to use in order to separate the tracks correctly and to burn with the correct data mode (AUDIO vs. MODE1 vs. MODE2Form1 vs. MODE2Form2).
The BIN file is that actual contents of the track(s)--which includes both UserData and ErrorCorrection codes, etc.

As a (S)VCD is based on CDROM XA Bridge format, it is usually multitrack, with Mode2Form1 on the 1st track and contains the ISO9660 filesystem, where you'll find the familiar MPEGAV, VCD folders, etc. The subsequent tracks are RAW MPEG streams packetized into even sized 2324 Mode2Form2 tracks. These streams are "referenced" by the AVSEQ##.DAT files in the MPEGAV (or similar) folder, much like a file alias/shortcut.
This type of layout is different from DVD burning, where DVD's are all Data Mode1, UDF 1.02/ISO9660bride, all 1 track with every media using the filesystem.

HTH,

Scott

Ray--PM me if you need more info, or to talk 3D. I've got some interesting future ideas there.

[Cornucopia]

Better yet, what method of burning the "bin/cue" files, (with which software), will allow my intended end user to burn a working SVCD from these files?

Nero: FILE|Burn DiscImage| load CUE, burn Disc-At-Once (DAO).
Done!

Scott

[arredja]

tell me some of your 3d ideas

[Cornucopia]

I've got a few that I'm preparing patent applications on now, so I won't mention them, but here's one I've been working on that make use of current standards in formerly unthought-of ways:

Did you know that the video file formats AVI, MPEG, Quicktime and Matroska (maybe Ogg also, haven't checked) ALL allow files with MULTIPLE muxed video as well as audio streams? Most applications are written to ignore any additional video streams, but they don't have to. And some do decode both (usually accidentally). What does this mean?

Well, it's actually pretty cool for cross-compatibility, particularly on the Web.

For example, I could give you a video that had a Left-view stream and a Right-view stream (and an audio stream) all muxed together. If you were to play it on most video player / editor apps, you would see 1 video stream and 1 audio stream (the "lower" #'d of the bunch). Apps like this are Virtualdub, Windows Media Player 9, 10, Real Player, and others.
But some apps, like Media Player Classic and the old Window Media Player 6.4, will open up both video streams AND PLAY THEM TOGETHER IN PERFECT SYNC with the same one control.

Now, Peter Wimmer's Stereoscopic Player currently does this also - but implicitly/accidentally. He has told me he's planning on adding explicit recognition of this type of file to a future release, meaning that the streams would be cross-convertible to whatever output display you prefer--Anaglyph, PageFlip, Interlaced, Side-by-Side, etc!

I think this would be a GREAT way to distribute videos on the net. It's a One-Size-Fits all method...
Create and edit your stereo video, mux together, upload. People with regular players get a standard 2D/Monoscopic experience; people with stereo players will get the enhanced, 3D/Stereoscopic experience.

If you need more info about what apps can do the muxing correctly, let me know and I'll expand on it after I've compiled a more complete list...

Only downsides I see are:
#1-WindowsMedia (WMV) only allows multiple video streams if they're meant for a tiered bitrate system. And all players explicitly expect that of them.
#2-The storage/bandwidth required is double (2x). I see this as a given for any master quality dual discreet system. Stereo Audio included. That analogy actually is stronger that you might guess.
#3-Some people may unexpectedly be using a "stereo-capable" system and get both streams when they don't want them. An easy fix here is to exit the secondary window after it shows up.

Scott