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    For all of you that love the burn engine in DvdDecrypter, LightningUK has spun it off as a freestanding program, with improvements.

    It's available at imgburn.com

    If you're as big a fan as I am, you might want to donate something to him there
    to pay my legal fees, get more drives working and add more exciting new features!
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  2. Interesting. Thanks for the link.
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    Now he should make a tool for all us DVD recorder users, one that extracts an MPEG stream in IFO mode. Decrypting is wholly unneeded, we just need an IFO extraction tool.

    That was what I used DVD Decrypter for 99% of the time.
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  4. Does it also do the "Iso Read" function? Would come in handy for copying un-encrypted DVDs. Would be especially handy if it copied from one drive to another on the fly.


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  5. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Now he should make a tool for all us DVD recorder users, one that extracts an MPEG stream in IFO mode. Decrypting is wholly unneeded, we just need an IFO extraction tool.

    That was what I used DVD Decrypter for 99% of the time.
    I agree Smurf
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  6. I agree with lorsmurf and dphirshler.

    It needs ISO read and Mpeg Stream Processing tools.

    It appears to burn cds too.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Now he should make a tool for all us DVD recorder users, one that extracts an MPEG stream in IFO mode. Decrypting is wholly unneeded, we just need an IFO extraction tool.

    That was what I used DVD Decrypter for 99% of the time.
    You can request it from him along with making a donation. Cant really complain for a free software.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Now he should make a tool for all us DVD recorder users, one that extracts an MPEG stream in IFO mode. Decrypting is wholly unneeded, we just need an IFO extraction tool.
    Originally Posted by dphirschler
    Does it also do the "Iso Read" function? Would come in handy for copying un-encrypted DVDs. Would be especially handy if it copied from one drive to another on the fly.
    Since a big, mean, stupid giant made him stop developing DvdDecrypter not so long ago, he may be a little gunshy about working with streams at the moment, even if they aren't encrypted. It certainly would draw interest from his enemy, the giant. If I was him, I certainly wouldn't be looking for another go around with the giant this soon. Given what he charges for his work, he certainly can't afford the best lawyers to protect him.

    Who knows what he'll be able to do in the future, but for now, I'm just happy to see to see him continue any part of his work.

    waheed is right, there is a "Suggestions" area of the forum at the site, and it's free, quick and easy to become a member. If you would like to suggest he make a "IFO extraction tool", or an "Iso Reader", drop him a note. Maybe you'll get your wish.
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    When I went earlier, the forum was blank, like it has not been set up.
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    be good if dvdshrink could use this to burn
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    Welcome back LightningUK!
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    Good on you LightningUK
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    question is - is the the real one ?

    remember there have been fakes before
    "Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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  15. Originally Posted by BJ_M
    question is - is the the real one ?

    remember there have been fakes before
    True!
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  16. I too would be keen to see a Disk to Disk "on the fly" copying mode. Or one that works via HD. Like many people I felt safer with LightningUKs product than others
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    Originally Posted by BJ_M
    question is - is the the real one ?

    remember there have been fakes before
    From what I've read, Rolz - the creator of PGCEdit, began working with Lightning UK to create this utility. The newest version of PGCEdit can call up IMGBurn to burn the final image.
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    Actually, I don't think r0lZ helped LightningUK to develop ImgBurn. In the ImgBurn forum where r0lZ announced he had included ImgBurn support in the latest version of PgcEdit, r0lZ said:
    ...I trust ImgTools, so, I have not tested it extensively.
    If he had helped develop it, he wouldn't have to test it himself at all. From reading the forum, it appears LightningUK distributed the ImgBurn beta to a small group of fans about a month ago.

    As to whether this is the real LightningUK, the fake guy (a while back) only offered the existing DvdDecrypter. This is a complete repackaging of the burn engine of DvdDecrypter, complete with improvements. Only someone who had access to LighningUK's source code to DvdDecrypter's burn engine and understood how it worked could have produced ImgBurn.

    After DvdDecrypter was shut down, I did an exhaustive search of the nooks and crannies of the internet looking for the source code, and didn't find even a hint of a code fragment. I strongly believe that LighningUK kept a tight lid on his source code.

    Of course, someone could have reverse assembled/compiled DvdDecrypter, and gone on from there, but even a crack team of programmers couldn't possibly have gotten this far, this fast.

    As far as I'm concerned, if it walks like a LighningUK, and quacks like a LightningUK, it probably is a LighningUK.
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    I didn't mean to infer that Rolz helped Lightning UK develop IMGBurn - but that he requested the burning utility from DVDDecrypter for his program PGCEdit.

    From Doom9's forum:

    PgcEdit 0.6.1 released

    Main changes from latest beta (PgcEdit 0.6.1 beta 12):
    ImgBurn support. Thanks Lightning UK!



    Either way, I don't believe Rolz would utilize a program that he was unsure of the creator of that program. The point of my previous post was to show that the creator of DVDDecrypter is also the creator of IMGBurn.
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  20. Originally Posted by VegasBud
    Actually, I don't think r0lZ helped LightningUK to develop ImgBurn. In the ImgBurn forum where r0lZ announced he had included ImgBurn support in the latest version of PgcEdit, r0lZ said:
    ...I trust ImgTools, so, I have not tested it extensively.
    If he had helped develop it, he wouldn't have to test it himself at all. From reading the forum, it appears LightningUK distributed the ImgBurn beta to a small group of fans about a month ago.

    As to whether this is the real LightningUK, the fake guy (a while back) only offered the existing DvdDecrypter. This is a complete repackaging of the burn engine of DvdDecrypter, complete with improvements. Only someone who had access to LighningUK's source code to DvdDecrypter's burn engine and understood how it worked could have produced ImgBurn.

    After DvdDecrypter was shut down, I did an exhaustive search of the nooks and crannies of the internet looking for the source code, and didn't find even a hint of a code fragment. I strongly believe that LighningUK kept a tight lid on his source code.

    Of course, someone could have reverse assembled/compiled DvdDecrypter, and gone on from there, but even a crack team of programmers couldn't possibly have gotten this far, this fast.

    As far as I'm concerned, if it walks like a LighningUK, and quacks like a LightningUK, it probably is a LighningUK.
    Your post got me thinking about something. Ever since I installed imgburn my computer has been running slow and I heard the hard drive doing stuff, two things that NEVER happened before. Of course it may be a coincidence. Anyone else have the same problems?
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  21. My computer dont seem slow since installing it. 8)
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    I haven't noticed a slowdown of my computer, or unusual drive activity either, D.A.R.J.R. It could be, like you said, a coincidence, or maybe the defaut settings in ImgBurn aren't right for your computer?
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    In case anyone missed it, the latest version (0.91.6) of ImgTool Classic released today now supports ImgBurn.
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