VCD Protection Tutorial

[BelfegorX]

Hi,


Here is my tutorial for VCD protection. Its not 100% secure but its better then using FreeLock that does no protection.


http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=150255


The process is maybe not simple - but please give it a try.
For me it works like a charm & my friends.

This protection prevents from CloneCD copying & Alcohol & BlindRead/Write. IsoBuster however can stiill extract the movies. But via Windows Explorer its not possible.

I have a next VCD protection - but I'm testing it as it will be only playable on VCD/DVD players - couse the PC drives can't play the movie - but they can see the VCD structure. Also working on a DVD protection (movie)



Have Fun !


--regards
Mateusz Matusiak

[lumis]

i'm not sure who would even want to protect a vcd anymore.. but i'm sure extracting the dat file to mpeg with vcdgear would do the trick.

it would probably take 10 minutes to make the first copy of the disc, from extraction, to authoring, to burning.

[BelfegorX]

i'm not sure who would even want to protect a vcd anymore.. but i'm sure extracting the dat file to mpeg with vcdgear would do the trick.

if someone will use VCDProt - VCDGear will be uselless & helpless.

Also in some regions of the world VCD/SVCD are still much popular that DVDs.

[hech54]

Great initiative BelfegorX...I have no need for it but it's cool to see someone going the "other" way...

[Supreme2k]

Also in some regions of the world VCD/SVCD are still much popular that DVDs.

I would have to say that, through much research, there are maybe a handful of places that VCD is even near the popularity of DVD, let alone surpassing it.

It is rather odd that you chose to post about protection, since a good portion of the questions and tutorials here are about bypassing protections. I'm sure there will be plenty of tutorials (one is enough) on how to bypass this protection.

On the other hand, it is probably too much trouble for most people to rip from such a low-quality source as VCD. I think that is your main "copy protection".

EDIT: fixed some wording, spelling

[lumis]

On the other hand, it is probably too much trouble for most people to rip from such a low-quality source as VCD. I think that is your main "copy protection".

[BelfegorX]

If it comes to bypassing this protection - IsoBuster will do.
Also I think that you are "strange" as for me.

Have you ever tried to think of something new rather then being a passive user of the things (read : applications) that other people create ?

Just a couple of clicks shouldn't make you think that creating a copy protection isn't possible,
as : If companies invest $$$$$$ and we can copy it in no problem then its not possible.
I hear such opinion all the time.

Try to think of something new one day ! You will notice that its NOT SIMPLE !!!!!

I know that protections can be broken - but people try to make perfect things. But everything can be made better and better - that is why people always try to become perfect(read : better).
If you don't understand that - than its your problem. Grow up one day and understand that there are many people on this world with many points of view - and have they're own (maybe) diferent opinion about one topic. Try to understand that.

[BelfegorX]

On the other hand, it is probably too much trouble for most people to rip from such a low-quality source as VCD. I think that is your main "copy protection".

Note: this protection can be applied to SVCD also.

That is why I'm working on DVD Movie protection.
Today I have made tests and the first results are possitive.
I'll see how it will work on other DVD players...
That is very interesting.

BTW: laught as much as you like. But I'm going to make the protection sonner or later - believe it or not.

[Supreme2k]

Also I think that you are "strange" as for me.

Have you ever tried to think of something new rather then being a passive user of the things (read : applications) that other people create ?

For the most part, no. But then again, that is not required in order to critique or comment on anything.
To a small extent, I have actually changed the recipe slightly on some of the things people eat in the U.S.

Just a couple of clicks shouldn't make you think that creating a copy protection isn't possible

Maybe not, but is it worth it?

Try to think of something new one day ! You will notice that its NOT SIMPLE !!!!!

Exactly. And again, is it worth the effort?

If you don't understand that - than its your problem. Grow up one day and understand that there are many people on this world with many points of view - and have they're own (maybe) diferent opinion about one topic. Try to understand that.

It's funny how much you contradict yourself there. You say that there are many different opinions, but you imply that I cannot have one I do understand that. That is why I am xpressing my opinion.

It is my opinion that you are beating a dead horse. You may as well try to create copy protection for 8-track tapes.

Going back to "is it worth it?": In the non-U.S. places that I've seen VCDs, you can get them literally for pennies. When you can purchase multiple copies of something for less than it would cost you to make (read: rip/copy) at home, it's not worth it.

[BelfegorX]

For the most part, no. But then again, that is not required in order to critique or comment on anything.
To a small extent, I have actually changed the recipe slightly on some of the things people eat in the U.S.

I'm not critique - its just my opinion. Also : what reciepie ? You are a coowner of McDonald ?

Maybe not, but is it worth it?

Yeah, it s worth it !

Try to think of something new one day ! You will notice that its NOT SIMPLE !!!!!

Exactly. And again, is it worth the effort?

Yeah, its worth it. As if you create a good protection you can get a good amount of $$$$ -
what is really worth trying. Or some big copy protection companies would employ you - what is also worth the effort. I think that any kind of work that maybe is not popular in the internet comunity could be made as proffesional & money making.
Even if the protection will be broken (and probably will be) you will get the $$$$ and everyone will be happy !

It is my opinion that you are beating a dead horse. You may as well try to create copy protection for 8-track tapes.

Well, a 8 track tape protection would be useless - but a protection for DVD would be worth the time & efforts to gain some $$ - you must agry with that. Its kind of bussines - one create and one break. And the create people make cash from it - probably bigger then those who make the copy soft / crack it

Going back to "is it worth it?": In the non-U.S. places that I've seen VCDs, you can get them literally for pennies. When you can purchase multiple copies of something for less than it would cost you to make (read: rip/copy) at home, it's not worth it.

Yeah, agree. But some of the places need VCD protection, ME, Asia. And that is a big market.

[BelfegorX]

It's funny how much you contradict yourself there. You say that there are many different opinions, but you imply that I cannot have one rolleyes.gif I do understand that. That is why I am xpressing my opinion.

Well, I haven't said that you CAN'T HAVE YOUR OWN OPINION ! You can have one - that is your law as I presume. Maybe it sounded that way but it wasn't suppoused to be that way.
Simply I don't agree when someone says that its pointless & not worth trying to make a protection. Then why do people make protections / encryption algos etc etc

[jimmalenko]

All credit to you for trying, but I gotta concur with S2K on this. IMO it is pointless for VCD since it's on the way out as far as "mainstream" releases go around the world, and has been superceded by better technology (DVD). In fact you've almost missed the boat with DVDs as well.

Find an unbreakable protection for Blu-ray or HD-DVD, and you can make some real $$$ (unbreakable for more than three days, that is ).

[vitualis]

As per above. Useless.

Commercial companies that protect VCDs don't do so with these methods. It is much easier for them to just physically alter the disc during mastering which makes them much more difficult to copy.

Regards.

[gadgetguy]

In general I agree that it is useless to protect VCDs or even DVDs, but it sounds like the underlying goal of BelfegorX is to get employment as a developer. This does make sense. Only those who develop protection get paid for their work by companies that want to protect their stuff. The fact that the companies are wasting their money is beside the point as long as BelfegorX gets paid. I hope it works for him and he gets hired.

[lumis]

you dont even really need a working copyright protection system, if you market it well enough to get them to pay, then that's all you need to do.. no matter what you come up with, it will be broken.. it's actually a pretty lucrative racket, keeping selling treatments to the disease, but never a cure.. but you always claim it's a cure, and they always buy.

[BelfegorX]

All credit to you for trying, but I gotta concur with S2K on this. IMO it is pointless for VCD since it's on the way out as far as "mainstream" releases go around the world, and has been superceded by better technology (DVD). In fact you've almost missed the boat with DVDs as well.

Find an unbreakable protection for Blu-ray or HD-DVD, and you can make some real $$$ (unbreakable for more than three days, that is ).

Well, I think that a protection that would last about 3 months would be something usefull And as for DVD - eeeeee - its not too late

[BelfegorX]

In general I agree that it is useless to protect VCDs or even DVDs, but it sounds like the underlying goal of BelfegorX is to get employment as a developer. This does make sense. Only those who develop protection get paid for their work by companies that want to protect their stuff. The fact that the companies are wasting their money is beside the point as long as BelfegorX gets paid. I hope it works for him and he gets hired.

Yeah, that is the point of such job. You work and create protections. You get paided and you deliver protection solutions & everyone is happy.

If someone cracks it - you work on something new...

[jimmalenko]

Well, I think that a protection that would last about 3 months would be something usefull

Considering that here, doom9 and CDFreaks are arguably the most popular video forums, and that developers of programs such as DVDShrink and DVDDecrypter have graced the walls of these fine establishments at one point or another, don't you think you'd be better off keeping something like this to yourself instead of advertising it where everyone who's anyone can see exactly how you did it ?

Don't forget that Sony's Arccos was supposed to be the "latest and greatest" copy protection, but it was cracked in 24 hours

[BelfegorX]

Well, I think that a protection that would last about 3 months would be something usefull

Considering that here, doom9 and CDFreaks are arguably the most popular video forums, and that developers of programs such as DVDShrink and DVDDecrypter have graced the walls of these fine establishments at one point or another, don't you think you'd be better off keeping something like this to yourself instead of advertising it where everyone who's anyone can see exactly how you did it ?

Well, this is a free solution - so people should know how it works
Ahhh.. that is couse I'm from TZ Team - so it should be clear now.

Don't forget that Sony's Arccos was supposed to be the "latest and greatest" copy protection, but it was cracked in 24 hours

HeHeHeHeHe - that is cool haven't knew that
Well, it was the greatest copy protection... but for 24h

[unseenmortal]

Keep up the good work BelfegorX, well im from the philippines.. and Original VCDs VS Original DVDs? For a poor country like ours, they all go for the VCD when it comes to originals and only buy DVDs if its pirated. Even PS2 games here are all pirated. BelfegorX's mission is still helpful these days. If Pirated DVD's are cheap, VCDs are cheaper. Not all people in my city knows how to use alcohol or clonecd, or any other image making software, its because they dont have computers at home. So protecting VCDs even just for the raw copy would be useful for some, like me. keep up the good work BelfegorX...