NERO 7 being released.

[Pixel Land]

Guess maybe I'm just spoiled being able to Nlite my XP.

Ah, another 'nlitened' person !!
I used to do the 'slimming down thing' manually, but Nuhi sure has spoiled me.
As far as Nero's bloat goes, I open the main install file with WinRar, and extract the Nero folder to wherever I want. Drag a shortcut to Nero.exe, and all is well. I lose some special functions, but plain ol' burning works fine. Oh, yeah, the Nero folder (V6) is under 35megs.

[junkmalle]

Siwss Amry Knives aren't bloated! They are very well designed.

Until you try to put one of those 25 in one things in your front pocket

LOL. Is that a swiss army knife in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

[toryamos]

had this installed now for a few days. all seems to work ok. yes, large download, but remember the full retail cd of nero 6 ultra was over 600mb.

this nero v7 premium allows you to install the features you want if you choose custom install. v7 has many new and "exciting" options too.
tip: if you want nero burning ROM to run, make sure to do a FULL uninstall of v6x beforehand + install the HOME feature.

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[whitejremiah]

well, i do like the fact that they let you pick and choose as to what to install...some programs will outright and install all sorts of added junk without letting you know that they are gonna do just that........reguarding toryamos, be careful...your borderlining on warez talking...the program hasnt even been officially released..i dont THINK you broke any rules yet, just dont tell us where you got it from......and BD-R, i know thats blu ray....i think they mean it like this: BluRay Disc-Recordable? thats just a guess, im not even sure that they are gonna use BD-R........though it SOUNDS the best....just B-R would work for me.......but we know companies tend to go with what sounds the best to the consumers...remember how they changed CD-E (erasable) to CD-RW...i guess only time will tell....

[Drazick]

Is there any improvements for Nero Vision Express?

[dreambill]

Is there any improvements for Nero Vision Express?

no

[BJ_M]

with so many new features -- i would wait on 7.0.1 or so before leaping ... based on past nero releases ...

[sapiendut]

if it is blue ray why not use BR-R sound better than BD-R

Because that's the name of the format "Blu-ray Disc", hence the abbreviation "BD"

[igalan]

When Nero 6 was released we had much the same discussion. Nero 5 was a "simple" burning program, Nero 6 added Nero Recode, Nero Vision Express, Nero Media Player... Now we have a step more with Nero 7.

But competing in the media arena will be though. There're already very good programs out there that can do a lot of things, even burn content to CD/DVD. So it will be a matter of taste: you want a media program that can burn your media or you want a program well featured for authoring that can work as media player? I have on thing very clear, http://mediaportal.sf.net/ is the best HTPC software (Open Source!) and I won't be replacing it for Nero any time soon .

[mujahid7ia]

Siwss Amry Knives aren't bloated! They are very well designed.

Until you try to put one of those 25 in one things in your front pocket

Yeah, but I think those aren't seriously "pocket" size. I meant the basic knife/nail file-screwdriver/scissors/toothpick/tweezers. I think it's a good, compact design. I just got one of these:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=361609&...ughType=search

[freebird2003]

When ever i try to burn in dvd iso mode in nero 7, i get " cannot connect TRF" plz help thanks

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. Here's an idea: how about waiting for the legally released full version instead of using some hacked beta garbage. As per site rules, no warez!!!
/ Moderator lordsmurf

[smearbrick1]

When ever i try to burn in dvd iso mode in nero 7, i get " cannot connect TRF" plz help thanks

Can you say "Threadjack?".

If the functionality doesn't vary much from Nero 6, I'm not going to upgrade for a while. At least until something worthwhile is made apparent.
Besides, Nero 6 does everything I need it to do.

[thevoelk]

I thought Nero 7 didn't come out until 13 October.

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/FAQs_Nero_7_Ultra_Edition_Upgrade.html

1. When and where can I get Nero 7 Ultra Edition?

Nero 7 Ultra Edition will be available at retail stores and through the Nero online shop starting the second week of October (approximately October 13th). Please check website regularly for information.

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[SCDVD]

I thought Nero 7 didn't come out until 13 October.

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/FAQs_Nero_7_Ultra_Edition_Upgrade.html

1. When and where can I get Nero 7 Ultra Edition?

Nero 7 Ultra Edition will be available at retail stores and through the Nero online shop starting the second week of October (approximately October 13th). Please check website regularly for information.

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That's why any reports on Nero 7 that have been posted should be taken with a grain of salt. If someone got a hold of a prerelease version, any "bugs" or incompleteness are not indicative of the released product. That's why it's called PRE release. As for those who whine about the wide range of modules being "unnecessary", speak for yourself. If your idea of an ideal commute vehicle is a 1947 Nash, great; drive your Nash. Just don't insinuate that anything other than your Nash is unnecessary.

The software market is very competitive. Simple, little burning software products are a dime a dozen. A number of very good ones are free. But a software maker has to address the wide range of users with a wide range of needs and interests if they are to be successful – and stay successful. The fact is that a number of customers will select Nero 7 specifically because it has additional functions that they want. There is a bigger world out there than that occupied by 1947 Nash drivers. There are people that would actually like to have a Media Center in their home for example even if others think that is frivolous and silly. The same user interest applies to the other modules in the Nero 7 SUITE as well.

As for a bare bones burning program somehow being cheaper to sell is hogwash. A software distribution disc costs EXACTLY the same to produce whether it has 20 MB on it or 600 MB. But a feature rich suite appeals to a MUCH bigger audience than a dime a dozen burning utility that is designed for he men and 1947 Nash drivers. If a software maker doesn't appeal to a MUCH bigger audience, they die - every time. Anybody remember Ashton Tate? May they rest in peace. They were the absolute king of data base software for PC's but they sat on it and didn't keep pace and they got creamed in the market. How about Lotus? They were the dominant provider of spreadsheet software to the PC market. The same thing happened to them. They were a little bit too preoccupied with being the self-anointed center of the universe and got their clock cleaned in the market as well. As least they didn't completely die; the relics of the company was acquired by IBM and serve a tiny niche market for a successor of Lotus Notes. The universal story with the PC market (as with most other markets) is never stop offering more, better, faster or you will die.

[Mister Flonk-Flonk]

I tried Nero 6 and it was a turd so I went back to 5.5.x.x. Will Nero 7 be good enough to make me want to upgrade or is it just an even more bloated and weighted down turd than Nero 6 was?

[SCDVD]

I tried Nero 6 and it was a turd so I went back to 5.5.x.x. Will Nero 7 be good enough to make me want to upgrade or is it just an even more bloated and weighted down turd than Nero 6 was?

That's good Mister Flonk-Flonk, just stick with 5.5. I'm sure it will serve every need that you could possibly think of. I'm sure it took you a long time to figure out 5.5. Now, now there's no need for you to go to all that trouble again.

[State Of Mind]

Hi to all you Nero fans who are sick and tired of the bloat. Here's the ultimate solution: vcBlackBox's NCab (Nero Custom Applications Builder):

Download Nero v6.6.0.16.
Download NCab.
Make sure that Nero and NCab's extracted contents are in the same directory, which has to be C:\NCab for the sake of this application.





















And you're done. I removed everything. I now have a 14 MB Nero silent install that only has what it needs to burn CDs/DVDs. Enjoy.

[lordsmurf]

Very nifty.

[whitejremiah]

State Of Mind, good work finding that, i may use it at some point in the near future...that goes to prove the point that a GOOD burning program doesnt need to be enormous to use...i can live with a relatively slimmed down burning program....and its not because i like "outdated" or "broken down" things, its because i like my system to be as slimmed down as possible, it makes it run faster, and if im not gonna use something then why bother? honestly, ive never even TOUCHED any of the audio/video codecs in nero...why, you may ask? the same reason that i never touch wmv...and until recently (they have actually gotten SIGNIFICANTLY better than most) wma....same reason i dont use the built in file decompression/compression and the same reason i use open office instead of notepad, and the same reason i use zoom player or BS player instaed of WMP, and why i dont use windows built in cd burning program........its basically because in my example, MS decided to throw in a bunch of unneeded things into what they had semi decent...that is an OS.......nero, unfortunately, in my eyes, is following the same path....why use something thats thrown in as an added bonus if it doesnt work as well as other (most of the time free) alternitives...i see no reasoning....as far as my computer though, id rather have it run as close to barebones as possible with programs, because of one thing and one thing only, it runs FASTER........i know this may not seem too important these days with the computers in the GHZ range, but honestly every little bit counts......try taking a computer with a near full harddrive and booting windows to your desktop, it will take a LOT longer than a system thats got a fresh install of windows with nothing else on the drive...even if the rest of the system specs are identical......i havent done it yet, but im planning on going through my windows folder and cleaning out the stuff that isnt used (with help from a reliable guide of course)

[Mister Flonk-Flonk]

I tried Nero 6 and it was a turd so I went back to 5.5.x.x. Will Nero 7 be good enough to make me want to upgrade or is it just an even more bloated and weighted down turd than Nero 6 was?

That's good Mister Flonk-Flonk, just stick with 5.5. I'm sure it will serve every need that you could possibly think of. I'm sure it took you a long time to figure out 5.5. Now, now there's no need for you to go to all that trouble again.

Don't fix it if it ain't broke...

[Jeremy of Many]

Guess maybe I'm just spoiled being able to Nlite my XP.

nLite pwnz.

[CaveCanem]

I just received Nero 7 Ultra edition today, has anyone else received it?





Nero was recommended to me after I had major compatibility issues with MyDVD 6.1, but after reading many of the newsgroups now I am not so sure that was good advice. It seems that Nero has become a bloated, convoluted, buggy disaster. Unfortunately, I used my $100 non-refundable Dell coupon for this purchase, so I am stuck with it. Hopefully, it will not be as bad as the Doomsayers describe.

What components should I install? What should I stay away from?

It will be primarily used for multiple DVD projects that need to have a high degree of set-top DVD compatibility. These DVDs will also contain multiple Microsoft PhotoStory 3 DVD slideshows.


Here is what I am trying to avoid:

I needed a specialized multi-DVD project burning program for some Microsoft Photo Story 3 slideshows, Sonic seemed the logical choice. I used Sonic MyDVD Deluxe 6.1, but had major compatibility issues with the FujiFilm DVD-Rs that I burned. They would play flawlessly in 30% of the set-top players (Hitachi, Panasonic, etc..), not at all in the other 70% (Samsung, Philips, etc...). Of the 70% that did not play, I ruled out the disc and the Dell/Philips 8631 burner as the issue since they worked in Panasonic and Hitachi set-top players, as well as computer DVD-ROMs.

Dell XPS Gen 4
Windows XP MCE 2005
2gb RAM
P4 3.6 ghz
250gb HDD
nVidia GeForce 6800 256mb
Audigy 2 ZS
Emuzed Angel Dual-TV tuner
Philips DVD-8631 16x DVD+/-RW
Hitachi-LG 16x DVD-ROM
Dell UltraSharp 17" LCD Flat Panel

[lordsmurf]

It will be primarily used for multiple DVD projects that need to have a high degree of set-top DVD compatibility. These DVDs will also contain multiple Microsoft PhotoStory 3 DVD slideshows.

Then this is CERTAINLY NOT the tool you want. Nero is something a computer newbie gets suckered into using. At least as it concerns non-burning functions. It's video functions are pitiful, and the burning engine has been known to make discs that are flawed to the DVD specs.

The only few things it does well aside from burning is technology it hired in from freeware, like DVD Shrink or Daemon Tools. But those are already free, so why buy Nero?

If you want a truly compatible DVD, get good authoring software and either burn with Nero only or burn with something else known to be a bit more stable (RNM, ISOs in DVD Decrypter).

Nero is slowly turning into another Roxio where the target audience is a victim that either doesn't know any better or an idiot doesn't care. Nero is becoming the very thing it originally sought to distance itself from.

Sonic MyDVD is crap too. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you did not upgrade, you traded for more of the same. If you want good slideshow software, look in the TOOLS section of this site and try out demos of several different ones. For video, being an apparent newbie, use TDA.

[CaveCanem]

LordSmurf,

Well it looks like I've been suckered. That's what I get for asking advice instead of researching myself. I had 5.5, and it was a nice little program, but I did not use it much. My brother wants to do some Pan'n'Zoom DVD slideshows on DVDs. A friend recommended Nero, and since it was familiar to me I bought it without researching. Oooops, live and learn I guess.

There is so much information out there, much of it conflicting, where can a NuB find Pan'n'Zoom DVD slideshow software that has Reliable and Compatible DVD Authoring/Burning software in one package. Home videos might be next for him so that capability would be nice too.

Why do all the C/net and other PC magazine review sites still give these packages such good reviews? (M-O-N-E-Y is probably the answer)

Will Blu-Ray and HD-DVD eliminate these frustrating compatibility issues with their recordable discs? (Rarely do I burn any data or audio CDs that will not play in every CD player or CD-ROM I try.)

This is all probably a little off-topic for here, but if you could point me in the right direction, it would be a great help.

Thanks,

J.T.

[MOVIEGEEK]

WARNING!:
I've been trolling other forums and there are alot of people reporting bugs with Nero 7(redundant? :P ).You might want to wait a couple of months before buying.