NERO 7 being released.

[thegeeman]

Apologies if this is old news. I know there were rumours on this sometime back but now there is an official release date in 4 weeks time.

But does anyone know what is known of Nero 7 and what it is likely to have incorporated within it??

This is the only link i could find and the web site says absolutely nothing.

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

[sunderland]

its 522mb thats a lot of room for a burning product

[CBC]

Yikes, I'll say! Too bad Nero won't allow "modular installs" where you can select only what you want to be installed.

Prassi ONES looks better & better ...

[ROF]

Yikes, I'll say! Too bad Nero won't allow "modular installs" where you can select only what you want to be installed.

Ultra Edition does. You can select either express (installs everything) or advanced to select where and what you want installed. Ultra edition is more than just a burning software package, it's a competent multimedia solution.

[roma_turok]

source: http://www.winfuture.de/news,22134.html

[roma_turok]

Source: http://www.clubic.com/actualite-22211-nero-7-prevu-pour-le-10-octobre.html

Nero 7 scheduled for October 10

The very famous continuation of multi-media creation and Nero engraving, should pass in version 7 on next 10 October. Accompanied by a new engine of engraving which should be ready for Hd-dvd and Blu-Ray , the continuation Nero 7 will be accompanied by 18 applications and in particular by Nero Vision 4 (video creation with support DVD VR), Media Home (Center Media improved with support of the remote control), Nero Sound Trax, Nero Wave Editor (audio editor with support 7.1), Nero Sound Box, BackitUp, InCD (compatible Blu-Ray UDF 2.5 and 2.6) and NeroScout (makes it possible to create data bases, to facilitate the search for musical titles for example with one simple key word).

Certain functions of the applications could be integrated directly into Windows . Good news, Nero 7 should also propose a new module of update, which would make it possible to update its version of Nero 7 without downloading the entirety of the software (30 Mo with each update) as it is currently the case. Nero DIGITAL should propose a more powerful codec of compression with a better quality and a higher ratio compression. Other details should be available soon. Nero 7 will be proposed with the sale in the neighbourhoods of 70€, a version demonstration will be well heard proposed at the same time as the commercial version.

[CBC]

Appears Nero is the next application destined for Full Swiss Army Knife Bloat Mode. Pretty to look at, though. Guess it was inevitable.

[slacker]

I think you all need to get real about program size. Just today I installed the newest of versions of Ulead DVD Moviefactory 4.0 w/o Disc Creator (565mb) and Microsoft Student 6.0 (1.1gb) for reviewing purposes. For all that Nero gives you, 550mb is not bad at all.

But I do agree they should modularize the install much like Microsoft has done with Microsoft Office Pro or some of the other vendors with their apps. Some functions I simply don't need or want.

[CBC]

My point was that if Nero7 would allow users to install only the parts they wish to use (w/ the ability to add-in at a later time, if desired), that would be fantastic. I'd wager that the majority of Nero users do not use the current full suite of utilites as it is. Guess maybe I'm just spoiled being able to Nlite my XP.

[ebenton]

Appears Nero is the next application destined for Full Swiss Army Knife Bloat Mode. Pretty to look at, though. Guess it was inevitable.

Is that Swiss Army Knife or Swiss Army Chain Saw?

[mujahid7ia]

Siwss Amry Knives aren't bloated! They are very well designed.

[stiltman]

Siwss Amry Knives aren't bloated! They are very well designed.

Until you try to put one of those 25 in one things in your front pocket

[QuaiBoy]

Looks like they just added fancy graphics to Express. PASS.
6 loads slow enough, especially compared to five. A five-fold increase in program size? PASS again.
Nice panel picture, though. Wish I had that.

-Evan-

[redwudz]

A little Nero is more than enough. A whole lot more of Nero is much, much more than enough. I only use 6.xx because my burner needs it. I use Nero burning ROM and none of the other, 'stuff'. 5.xx was as good as it gets.

[whitejremiah]

JEEZ......500+mb for a BURNING program??? good grief.....what the heck is the world coming to........yes, im aware that there are people with TB of hdd space, but even so, 500mb for a single PROGRAM..if it were say a GAME i could understand...i wonder how much the harddrive manufacturers paid nero to make this thing this bloated (and dont compare install sizes to ANYTHING made by MS....they are completely illiterate as far as code is concerned with install sizes..........they have some of the BIGGEST installs of anything around) i dont see why they couldnt just update the programs slightly and not chew up extra space with all sorts of other "pretty" things...i hope someone finds a way to strip it down to barebones, maybe then i will THINK of using it...until then, NO cd burning program is getting my money at that install size...it sickens me.

[tanerb]

is there currently any external dvd writer in the market bundled with it?

[CBC]

" I know there were rumours on this sometime back but now there is an official release date in 4 weeks time."

I'd guess at the answer to be "no".

[ROF]

JEEZ......500+mb for a BURNING program??? good grief.....what the heck is the world coming to........yes, im aware that there are people with TB of hdd space, but even so, 500mb for a single PROGRAM..if it were say a GAME i could understand...i wonder how much the harddrive manufacturers paid nero to make this thing this bloated (and dont compare install sizes to ANYTHING made by MS....they are completely illiterate as far as code is concerned with install sizes..........they have some of the BIGGEST installs of anything around) i dont see why they couldnt just update the programs slightly and not chew up extra space with all sorts of other "pretty" things...i hope someone finds a way to strip it down to barebones, maybe then i will THINK of using it...until then, NO cd burning program is getting my money at that install size...it sickens me.

To that end, I'd say get used to it.

A good mahjonng tileset pack approaches 500MB, any game worth it's mettle is larger than 500MB. This is neither of those, but it's much more than a burning software package. The interface from those screenshots looks very similiar to 6, which is good because everything is right where it belongs, at my fingertips. It's also good to hear that I will be able to support blu-ray burning with my favorite app too. I'll wait until at least after the holidays to purchase though because I'm sure an update will be available by then with even more goodies included.

[roma_turok]

its 522mb thats a lot of room for a burning product

source: http://www.winfuture.de/news,22134.html
522mb - Its size of install program, its big because its contain setup for other languages.
The final size after install is 267 MB.

Nothing special, in general its OLD NERO 6.

[whitejremiah]

okay, 267 is a bit more acceptable....its still kinda big though, seeing that according to everyone thats posted stuff, its pretty much the same as nero 6...just with blu ray/hd dvd support...its twice the size of nero 6.....im just curious as to where all the bloatness comes from reguarding install sizes on games, yes they are quite huge these days....but have you ever seen what can be done with small filesizes? google for something called .kkrieger it requires some fairly high end hardware to run...but it proves that game installs SHOULDNT have to be as huge as they are, they should be (i know this is gonna be hard for a lot of people to swallow) more hardware intensive but require less harddrive space to install......4 and 5gb for some games these days is not just rediculous, its obscene.

[SCDVD]

This "bloat bad, small good" mentality is a bit of an over simplification. There are some that use Microsoft Paint instead of Photoshop for the same reason. But there is more to it than that. If all you have is a 100 Mhz. PII with 64 MB of memory, it's a good idea to stay away from "bloated" Photoshop. (I just checked my Adobe folder on my system where I have Photoshop 7 and Illustrator 10 installed, and it is over a Gigabyte!) Is that bad? Is that bloat? Well, let’s see. I have a 300 GB hard disc. That means my Adobe programs occupy less that one half of one percent of my hard disc space. Bloated? I don’t think so. But if all you have is a 20 MB hard disc, you would have a serious problem! And, if all you know how to do is load a jpeg file and print it, you have no use for Photoshop.

The new Nero 7 Suite has more programs in the package with additional functions that didn't exist in Nero 6. When you install Nero, you have the option of installing only the modules that you need. The Nero SUITE isn't one single blob of code. If all you need is just the Burning ROM portion, just install that. But if the new Nero Home module or any of the other modules are useful to you, it's a great addition to the product suite. The Burning ROM program that is part of the overall Nero 7 suite is close to the same size as Burning ROM in Nero 6. The point is; if you don't need all of the modules, don't install them all.

For the "hair on the chest" crowd, if you check on EBay, you can probably find an old Z-80 PC with the CPM operating system. You can then take great pride in all of the "bloat" that you avoid. But then why would anyone with an arcane Z-80 want to read a video help forum?

[CBC]

I guess a good question would be:
Do you want to pay for a "full suite" product, but use only 10% of it?
Will Nero come out in a "Lite & Fluffy" version for less $$ & just the basic featureset?
oh wait..that's two questions.
I have always used/enjoyed NERO, but am not sure if I want to pay full retail for something I'd be using only a fraction of. With the BluRay/HD still off in the distance somewhat until enough hardware/media is released & becomes affordable enough to actually buy (remember DL DVDs?), a lot of what NERO7 offers is basically useless at this point & for the near future.

[whitejremiah]

I'm not gonna turn this into a flame thread, but all i gotta say, is not everyone has 300gb of harddrive space....does that mean their computer is outdated? not nessacerily...look at a laptop for example the biggest harddrives around for it right now are 120 or 160gb install the operating system (like 3gb for windows xp without stripping it down) install MS office...thats like another SEVERAL hundred mb..........install a burning program..lets just say nero 7 for the sake that im gonna keep using programs that are too huge for their own good just to prove the point here.......and adobe (you said 1gb, im gonna run with that since i dont have it installed) throw in say...3 games at 4gb each....thats 12gb for the games, 3gb for the operating system, about 2gb for applications...thats nearly 20gb eaten off a fresh install (and personally, i wouldnt consider that to be a useable pc myself...there's still quite a few things that i use on a daily basis that are missing from that) my point being this....there are burning programs that dont quite work as well as nero 7 will, im sure, but they are good enough for most people's purposes, and they install a HECK of a lot smaller.......i'll go with MS office, just for example, and its open source counterpart, openoffice...ms office (last i knew at least) installed to like 450-500mb open office, which is nearly identical installs to HALF that size.....why is this? its due to BAD PROGRAMMING......and open office also loads faster

Also as a side note, nero as of late, has been trying to be too much of an all in one program......i want a program to burn cd's and/or dvd's...and maybe eventually blu ray or HD DVD...i dont want/need a program to do all that, reencode video, reencode audio, do my dishes, clean my laundry, and change my car's oil........

[slacker]

No offense whitejremiah,

But comparing MS Office to OpenOffice is like comparing a Van Gogh painting to my kid's stick figure water color drawings. It may work in a home office or small school environment, but in a large corporate environment or an established county level school district (where I come from)? No chance in hell.

What you are paying for in MS Office is the compatibility, interoperability, intelligence, programmability and supportability of the environment. If you don't need all that, then OpenOffice is definitely worth evaluating.

As far as Nero goes... I, for one, am going to write the most constructively critical argumentative letter I can to their Public Relations group and leave it at that. WHY they put so much in one PRODUCT is beyond me as well. However, if you ARE looking for an integrated package, Nero is STILL better than Intervideo's ALL-IN-ONE software, Roxio's Digital Suite, etc.

Write to them! See what happens!

[SCDVD]

It is clear that a lot of people don't realize that Nero StartSmart is a shell that will load any of the Nero modules that are installed on the system. It IS NOT necessary to use StartSmart. If you only want to use Burning ROM for example, you can load it and it only. You can put a Burning ROM icon on your desktop or select it from the program start menu just like any other program. So be careful with your "constructively critical argumentative letter" to ahead Software (Nero) or you may just be opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

[nwo]

its 522mb thats a lot of room for a burning product

what is DB-R.

[slacker]

SCDVD,

Don't understand the comments! Can you NOT be cryptic?

[slacker]

nwo,

BD-R = Blue ray -r disc! Hmmm?

[nwo]

nwo,

BD-R = Blue ray -r disc! Hmmm?

if it is blue ray why not use BR-R sound better than BD-R

[slacker]

nwo,

Yep!