Canopus dv codec and XP home

[BirdDaddie]

how do I get the dv playback only codec to install with win XP home?It tells me the system file is not suitable for running MSDOS and gives me close or ignore.No matter what choice I make it doesn't install
it installs fine on my XP pro pc but not the home one.

[daamon]

Hi BirdDaddie,

Can you explain why you're wanting to install the codec in the first place? Judging by your opening comment ("how do I get the dv playback only codec to install..."), you shouldn't need it.

If you do need it, a good codec that should install OK is the Panasonic DV Codec.

[BirdDaddie]

all my videos are in Canopus format to get them to work with TMPGEnc

[daamon]

all my videos are in Canopus format to get them to work with TMPGEnc

"Canopus format"? What do you mean...? if need be, use either GSpot or AVICodec on a typical file and post details here.

Where are your AVIs from? Camcorder? Downloaded? etc.

[BirdDaddie]

the clips were captured from my camcorder with adobe premere pro
they would only show black in TMPGEnc
I then used Canopus file converter to change them and they worked
now I need them to show on my laptop as I do most of my work on it
the dv codec wont install

[Cornucopia]

As DV codecs are of the "decoder-compliant" model (similar to MPEG model), this makes them universally compatible. That is, the difference is in the encoding, and/or the processing within the decoding, not the syntax of the stream. Therefore, you can substitute one for another much like you can play a stream in different apps--the file is still the same format.
You would do this by changing the fourCC code. Don't recall them right now, but for example's sake, let's say that the "default" DV codec is Microsoft's and has a fourCC of DSVD and the Canopus has CSVC. If you have a file created by a Canopus board, or by a software Canopus codec, you can still play back with Microsoft's by changing the fourCC from CSVC to DSVD.
Note: many brands of DV codecs will "bid" for the DSVD fourCC--and you have to choose one at a time (though it is "swappable"), whereas Canopus' CSVC is referenced only by Canopus.

So, even if you can't install the Canopus codec, you can use a standard other-brand codec (M$, Sony, Panasonic, Pinnacle, etc). Just remember to change the fourCC. There are apps in the [<--] Tools section for doing just that.

Scott

[Cornucopia]

My guess is you were also having a DV-AVI Type1 vs. DV-AVI Type2 conflict.

Type1 = Muxed (A+V) DV stream in [Video] stream section of the file, with NOTHING in [Audio] stream section.

Type2 = Muxed (A+V) DV stream in [Video] stream section of the file, with DUPLICATED (from the audio portion of the muxed stream) audio in [Audio] stream section.

Type 1 was original, only some apps support it. Type 2 was later, has more filesize overhead, but is much more universally supported.

IIRC, TMPGEnc supports Type1 when using the Canopus-brand codec, but usually requires Type2 when using any other brand.

Scott

[daamon]

Hi BirdDaddie,

With DV camcorders, and presuming you're using firewire, the data on the tape is transferred from the tape to your PC through the firewire cable - in much the same way data in files on a CD are transferred from there to your hard drive through the cable attached the CD drive to the PC.

As Cornucopia says, DV AVI comes in two types: 1 & 2. The difference is solely to do with the way in which the audio is stored in the file, excellently explained above.

And (yep, he's right again) TMPGenc does have problems with Type 1 DV AVI. If you struggle to find the setting in Premiere to set it to capture to Type 2, use WinDV - it's free, stable, easy to use and can very easily "capture" Type 2 DV AVI.

I actually prefer WinDV - I find it less cumbersome and easier to configure. You can choose to capture to one long AVI, or seperate clips for each of the seperate pieces of footage on the tape.

Let me know if you want any help configuring it.

[BirdDaddie]

I do use winDV now.The trouble is that the older clips are all in Canopus dv format
I need to be able to edit them on my laptop witch runs win XP home
I no longer use premere

[daamon]

Ulead DV Type 1 to DV Type 2 Converter