want to spend $$$ on GOOD software, please advise

[DereX888]

...or he could have just read few guides, or even easier - just have a look at the Tools section and read comments.
But what ya expect from someone who claims not to be "dissing" freewares (what a stupid ghetto-rap-crap word lol!) yet he do so indirectly... go on, brutha hex carrier, live'n'learn (although I bet youre way older than me, please at least consider this advice - it works not only in the digital video field, but in the real life as well:
BULLSHIT IN will always give you in result BULLSHIT OUT

i DID read and still am reading guides you retard.
and the tools section ALSO links DGIndex and DVD2AVI to DGMPGDec.

and if you think that "dissing" is somekind of "ghetto-rap-crap world?" word....then YOU MUST be older than I am....dad

the more you post, the more obvious it is that you are a complete idiot.

help yourself: stop making fun of yourself by posting.

look, you moronic imbecile, without a freeware semi-professional, unreliable, and clunky first piece of code unleashed by someone few years ago nobody - including you - wouldn't *ever* be able to backup any protected dvd. Got that, you idiot? If not - read again until you understand it.

Furthermore I have told you so that everyone use more than few programs, of which you've got prove above in the posts of those who were still willing to waste their time on you. Youre just pissed at me because I chose to show where your idiocy shined in your post, while others chose to ignore it or skip upon it. But the fact is youre still more of an idiot with every new post of yours, and make no mistakes - even those who replied in more friendly manner before to you still see it.

I repeat again:
"The best software does the thing it is written for (the "one thing").
The "professionals" DO use 20+ different pieces of software, all depending on what task are they doing."

and actually the rest of my previous post fits here as well again:

" The amount of software on anybody's system does NOT cause it to slow down, never, unless someone is an idiot running them all at once (but that is different story).

Your whole notion about freeware is wrong. Without freeware you would never decrypt any commercial dvd, therefore *any* commercial backup software is useless without it.

There are great and excellent free programs (ie DVDDecrypter) and there is freeware junk - as well as there are great payware and expensive junk not worth a dime. In a software world (and in a computer world in general) the most expensive almost never equals the best.

You already stated negative opinion on "freewares" in general, yet you ask here for help and admit you have no clue what youre talking about. It does not make any sense. "

If there is anything wrong with what I have told you before, I would have apologized to you. But there isn't, and you have just proved further how stupid you are, hence there won't be any apology.

The only thing I wrote in my first reply - to which you object so much - and I admit of being slightly incorrect, was this question:
Are you "smart differently" or something?
As it turned out, it shouldn't have been a question, but a statement, like this:
You are stupid.

good luck, my imbecile web friend

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[Bodyslide]

Post removed..

[hex carrier]

I repeat again:
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dont bother, i didnt even read your post based on the fact that you are just a bitch.

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[DereX888]

I repeat again:
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dont bother, i didnt even read your post based on the fact that you are just a bitch.

lol, thats all you could come up with?!

gee... come on, use those last two leftover brain cells before they disappear, mebbe u can do better than that! :O

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[BobK]

and i think im asking for a pretty simple request...
a list of tools to get me started and going

That's simple enough. Try here https://www.videohelp.com/tools

[candsh]

Here's what I have on my PC and use fairly regularly:


(popular alternatives that others use to do a similar job are listed in brackets)


ScenalyzerLive (WinDV, DVIO, Windows Movie Maker)
VirtualdubMod, Virtualdub 1.3c (VirtualDub-MPEG2, VirtualDub)
DVDDecrypter, Smartripper (DVDFab Decrypter)
DVDShrink (DVD2One)
IFOEdit, VOBEdit (PGCEdit)
PowerDVD (WinDVD, VLC, Media Player Classic)
GSpot (AVICodec)
Nero Burning ROM (CopyToDVD, RecordNow)
VOBBlanker, TitlesetBlanker
TMPGEnc DVD Author (DVD-lab Pro)
TMPGEnc Plus (CCE, Mainconcept, Procoder)
VCDGear, ISOBuster
DVDPatcher
ffmpeggui, Belight (BeSweet)
MPEG-VCR
DGIndex, DVD2AVI (DGMPGDec)
AutoGK (Gordian Knot, FairUse)
DVDRemake Pro
DivxToDVD (WinAVI, DVDSanta, NeroVision Express)
Rejig
ASFTools
AC3Filter
Lame MP3
XviD Codec
DivX 3.11 Alpha, 4, 5 Codecs
GoldWave
AVISynth
Windows Media Encoder
WinRAR
Winzip


Of course I have other software on my PC, but this is what I use regularly. Registered versions of all of these would probably be somewhere in the $500-$600 range I would imagine - obviously I didn't buy them all at once

I'm pretty sure that all of these tools can be found in the Tools section to your left. If not, I'm sure a google will track down their official websites.

That's a whole lot of indecision on one computer

[jimmalenko]

That's a whole lot of indecision on one computer

Actually, that's a whole lot of flexibility.

It's pretty much only the codecs that clash - everything else gets along without any hassles and I can do just about anything without needing to download any tools at all.

[thecoalman]

That's a whole lot of indecision on one computer

I have quite a few of those apps installed, mostly the utilities such as G spot. There's many things out there that do do one thing very well, that's a prime example. I'm using Ulead MSP and it doesn't provide anywhere need the info that G-spot does. I've used it many times.

[lordsmurf]

That's a whole lot of indecision on one computer

Actually, that's a whole lot of flexibility.

It's pretty much only the codecs that clash - everything else gets along without any hassles and I can do just about anything without needing to download any tools at all.

Precisely.

Most software is different, there will NEVER be any one tool that does it all. Video is simply far more complex than solitaire or even photo work. Any number of tools (be them free or more $$$$$$ than a house), will be needed along the way, depending on the complexity desired and available budget.

If you *insist* on only using one tool for all your video, either expect poor quality output, or be ready to quit the hobby thoroughly disguested. Video has a learning curve, and requires a little bit of time and budget.

Sometimes you get lucky and good tools are free, thanks to beginner programmers (many of whom later get picked up by big companies, who charge through the nose for their later versions).

This thread is over. The original question has been answered a number of times now.