Having problems with Backups at the end of movie

[itsjustme]

Lately my back ups have been freezing up and getting blotchy and making a weird noise at the end of the movie. Anybody know whats up with that?

[Bodyslide]

This is normally a sign of Bad media. What media are you using? Also what burner do you use? Thanks

[jtoolman2000]

Bad Media. Set your back ups to be no more than 4,300 MB instead full capacity and it should avoid the edge of the disk where the dye is the most unstable and irregular specially on lower quality discs.

[itsjustme]

ive backed up maybe 50 dvd's with these same maxell brand and i have only had problems with this last back up batch at the end of the movies


weird.

[itsjustme]

i bought maxell dvd-r's and they gave me no problems. The first pack of maxell backups dont giver me any crap either but the second spool did. it gave me these errors at the end of the movie

[Bodyslide]

The below application will show you if you have any read errors on the DVD's. This should also give you the media ID code.

https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=Nero_CD-DVD_Speed

[jimmalenko]

ive backed up maybe 50 dvd's with these same maxell brand and i have only had problems with this last back up batch at the end of the movies

weird.

Media can vary from batch to batch, and also from within a batch. This is why most people stick with reputable Media IDs - check out www.nomorecoasters.com for more info.

There's a miniscule chance your DVD player may have a heat problem, as one of my players would act in this way until I pointed a desktop fan at it. I soon got myself another palyer

This has truly been done to death here though. Do an all forums search on "skipping freezing" or "freezing end disc", and you'll literally find hundreds of people who have been affected by this previously.

[BSpielbauer]

ive backed up maybe 50 dvd's with these same maxell brand and i have only had problems with this last back up batch at the end of the movies
weird.

This may not be so weird at all. It is entirely possible that you were "lucky" and most of your earlier burns happened to be a smaller capaicty, and therefore did not extend all of the way to the very outer edges of the actual burned DVD (which is where problems develop most often when you use lousy media).

And, another possibility -- those who do a lot of burning and use lousy media often comment on how "the first half of that cakebox was fine, but then I found XX in a row that were terrible, or would not even burn, or suffered from dye problems." The "problems" often seem to run in "batches," or at least in "spurts," at least from what I have read. It is almost as if somebody fell asleep on the line, at manufacturing, for awhile.

The best solutions-
Step one, is to make sure you always use high quality media (which does nto always have to cost more than the cheap stuff, but you do need to do some reading and research, and learn what to avoid).

Step two, as mentioned above, is to go into the software settings, and set the total maximum burn to below 4.3 GB (some people go even lower than this-- 4.250 GB or 4.2 GB), so you are never even burning in that very tricky outer area.

If you do both, you will probably never see this condition again, especially if you take good care of your discs.

Good luck,

-Bruce

[itsjustme]

thanks for all your indepth answers fellas. They really helped alot. i bought some new media today, the previous back ups that failed i re-burnt and now they are fine. but that is so wierd to me that the first 50 worked fine and the second 50 had the error.


shit is odd to me.

Oh well i will just scan each back up individually now instead of backing up 10 discs and then becoming aware of the error.

[itsjustme]

i also wanted to add.....


is there anything i could do with the remaining blanks from the bad batch/spool?


damn backing up your collection can be damn expensive hobby

[taboo]

Believe me or not but I had this problem as well. All of the sudden movie just started to freeze and skip on my stand alone player.

What I did is I started to decrypt in ISO image file (i did it before in File mode), shrink and then burn at 4x speed even if disk of higher speed.

taboo

[mats.hogberg]

That's the beauty with some "brand" names - they don't manufacture the discs themselves, but buy them from various manufacturers. "Various" is the word to notice, since it seems like brands like Maxell or Memorex or... buy from different manufacturers, and you have no idea of who's really made the disc, until you've opened the stack and had a peek, using DVDInfo Pro.

/Mats

[Nozza]

"is there anything i could do with the remaining blanks from the bad batch/spool?"

Yes, take Bruce's advice and don't burn to the end of the disk. They will probably be fine.

[Rich86]

You might also try burning at a slower speed on these suspect media, in case the failures occurring at the outer rim of the media (where whatever speed you selected is at its maximum) is indicative of a burning speed beyond what the media can deal with.

[lordsmurf]

"Maxell" is a brand. Period.

Maxell, the company, makes MXL media.
But they also use RITEK or TY.

Likely you got some crappy RITEK discs.
Or you have a burner that hates TY.

[oldfart13]

For Maxell, I still only use the "Made In Japan" branded ones, either + or - with no problems. Mucho problems with the Taiwanese made stuff though, ditto with the Taiwanese Fuji discs...

[Rich86]

It seems to me that most of these media issues are a function of the writing strategy in the burner's firmware vs. the media. I have had excellent performance from Ritek -R media (G04 in my Sony 500a and G05 in my Benq 1620). However, the Sony 500a will not burn to Ritek G05 media. That is the fault of Sony who can't be bothered to update the firmware for this drive for newer 8x media. Which is also why my newer drive is NOT a Sony.
I've also never had a problem with TDK or Maxell media - but both of these brands use oem suppliers, so the media could be from whomever they had contracted with at the time. It's too bad the containers show only the marketing name and don't clearly indicate exactly what the media inside really is, since that is so integral to how well it performs in a particular burner.

[oldfart13]

It's too bad they are now playing "let's hide the country of manufacture" on many of the spools. I think the companies involved know a thing or two about marketing as well. Most of the newer spools that are Taiwanese or Chinese made seem to want to hide that fact by putting the country of origin in a place where the consumer has a hard time finding it or using tiny tiny lettering so you can barely make out where the discs are from. Very disreputable practises.

Some drives even with upgrades still don't like certain media. My Panny E80H with firmware upgrade will easily accept 8X Maxell or Fuji "Made In Japan" discs but will spit back out any of the Taiwanese discs. I have a hard time burning the Taiwanese made discs as well in my LG4040B and LG4163B burners. I get disc errors at over 4 Gig, as well, they will skip or stop while playing in my Philips 642 DVD player which isn't really picky on most media. The Japanese discs though I can burn right out to the edge and not get any skips or freezes at all. I had to rerip a bunch of discs a friend gave me over the weekend because they were on the crappy Taiwanese Maxells. When I redid them onto the Japanese Taiyo Yuden Fujis, they worked flawlessly, so it's not merely the burner but also the media (more probably the dyes)....

[itsjustme]

i have a new optorite dd1603 burner.

I am a noob so to speak.

could some one tell me....

if

A. I need firmware.

B. where to look

thanks in advance


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