How to add your own subtitle to DVD (keep menu, multi-pgc)

[dinderi]

Thank you very much, manono. The link was very helpfull. I retouched and repleaced sub-menu's bitmap, and now can see "polish", at subtitles list .

[s_shperberg]

Hi there, I didn't manage to active the subtitles witch I added to the dvd. When I play each vob in nero showtime I can see the new subtitles (hebrew lb, hebrew wide) and the original subtitle (swe), but when I play the folder in powerdvd it set all the subtitles as Swe, although it desplay all the subtitles in right click menu (after i used PGCedit to edit the language name to hebrew) original language (sv)

Is there anything I can do?

Thanks in advance,
shahaf

[manono]

Hi-

You can follow this guide to make your Hebrew subs play by default:

http://download.videohelp.com/r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/2cool/subtitles/subtitles_on_de...lt_pgcedit.htm

By the way, the LB and Wide subs are supposed to be in the same SubStream (if the video is 16:9). Your player chooses the correct one based on the TV you have (4:3 or 16:9). You shouldn't have the 2 different Hebrew subs from which to choose. You load them both into the same stream during authoring. If using Muxman, you first load the Wide followed by the LB one.

I couldn't tell if you were saying that PowerDVD plays only Swedish subs, even if you choose one of the Hebrew ones, or if you're saying you have to choose the Hebrew ones by clicking in the Subs area. But the problem could be related to you muxing in the Hebrew subs incorrectly.

[s_shperberg]

I couldn't tell if you were saying that PowerDVD plays only Swedish subs, even if you choose one of the Hebrew ones, or if you're saying you have to choose the Hebrew ones by clicking in the Subs area. But the problem could be related to you muxing in the Hebrew subs incorrectly.

PowerDVD play only Swedish subs even if I choose the hebrew one. I didnt used MuxMan to remuxe because it got stuck every time i tried, I used IFOedit in this way:

1. DVD Author > Author new DVD

2. In Video and Audio I loaded the file for the demuxed folder

3. In the Subtitles I first loaded the Swe subtitles (the original) after that the wide screen Heb (x: 0.75) and last I choose the normal Heb subtitles.

4. In "Output Stream" I choose "C:\DVDTemp\remuxed"

5. I clicked OK

Is there any problem with that? if not what else could be wrong?

Thanks again,
shahaf

[manono]

Is there any problem with that?

Only that you're not getting the Wide and LB in the same track. However, I use IFOEdit for authoring sometimes and haven't run into the problem you're describing.

I didnt used MuxMan to remuxe because it got stuck every time i tried

You're too impatient. It only seems like it freezes. It's really still working, and when it's done, it'll pop up with a message. I encourage you to try it again as it really is the best. Do the subs like this. I'm assuming that the video is 16:9, and there's only one Swedish subtitle file. When loading the subs, tick the "1", load the Swedish one first and hit both the Wide and LB buttons (in that order). Then tick the "2", load the Hebrew Wide, and tick the Wide button. Then tick "3", load the Hebrew LB, and hit the LB button. When done loading everything, you'll notice only 2 subtitle tracks exist, Track 1 and Track 2. That's how it should be. Then after processing everything (be patient), let me know if it plays OK in PowerDVD and in the standalone.

[s_shperberg]

OK, it worked, except that the new subtitles have a white background (When i generated them in subtitle creator the transp. box was checked) is there a way to fix it?

hope its the last time I bother you,
shahaf

[manono]

If there's a big rectangular box of white surrounding the subtitle area, then you can make it transparent again (as well as change the subtitle colors if you wish) in DVDSubEdit. You'll be experimenting in the Subpic Color/Transparency area, playing with the sliders, finding which is the one you want ("b" probably), and then making it transparent again. After you have it set, don't forget to first go Edit->Apply Last Modifications To All, and then File->Save All Modifications. There's a very good User Manual included, or found here:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/UserManual/helpfile.htm

You'll want Section 2.2 Good luck.

[s_shperberg]

It worked! thanks for all the help,
Shahaf

[om]

interesting.. it kind of worked, except that random seek does not work in the reauthored dvd produced by VobBlanker (2.1.3.0 beta10; ff still works; random seek works both in the original and remuxed dvds; all PUOPs are disabled, of course).
am I doing something wrong? I guess I'll have to try something else instead of VobBlanker, for now.

[om]

VobBlanker 2.1.2.0 gives the same result.. random seek still does not work, although everything else looks fine. quite annoying.
tried ifoupdate instead of vobblanker, but this does not work at all (crashes with "error 70").

[tRAVALO]

Errors and more errors.

subtitle creator need a codec pack ,that i have donwload but still got the same message


MUXMAN give me this message

VobBlanker give me this error, when a try to replace the file

this message apear when a load the movie

[manono]

I don't use SubtitleCreator for that, so I don't know.

As for Muxman, open the celltimes.txt, remove/delete the last cell number and try again.

For VobBlanker, did you use the celltimes.txt to create your cells/chapters in the DVD when you used Muxman? There seems to be a big difference between the number of cells in the replacing DVD and the original DVD.

And if you have ILV, you can't use VobBlanker anyway, as it doesn't support it. That's if you try and do a "Replace" in the VTS already marked as "Skip". You'll have to remove the ILV/Angles in your DVD before trying to use it.

[tRAVALO]

As for Muxman, open the celltimes.txt, remove/delete the last cell number and try again.

For VobBlanker, did you use the celltimes.txt to create your cells/chapters in the DVD when you used Muxman? There seems to be a big difference between the number of cells in the replacing DVD and the original DVD.
.

i dont remenber now

And if you have ILV, you can't use VobBlanker anyway, as it doesn't support it. That's if you try and do a "Replace" in the VTS already marked as "Skip". You'll have to remove the ILV/Angles in your DVD before trying to use it.

i'm studing this words,
thanks

[tRAVALO]

Manono i dont now what ILV means .
If i cant use voblanker ,what sould i use instead ?

[manono]

ILV stands for (I think) InterLeaVing. I may be wrong about the particulars, but here's the general idea. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. VobBlanker doesn't support replacing or otherwise processing certain kinds of DVDs. Those will be the ones it first warns you about, and then marks certain VTSs as "Skip". Say you have one with both the theatrical version and the director's cut. You choose one or the other in the menu before you watch the movie. That's ILV. Say you choose which language you want, and you get the credits in that language, and there may be credits and sometimes other stuff like signs in different languages. Disney does that a lot. Those are angles and you choose which to play in the menu. VobBlanker can't replace a movie like that. You'll have to remove the ILV or angles before reencoding and then replacing.

PGCEdit has a button you can check to remove the ILV/Angles. Open the DVD in PGCEdit, double-click the video, and in the new screen you'll see along the bottom, "Del Angles". I haven't used it for that purpose, but it should provide directions for you to do it.

[tRAVALO]

Edited:

Great ,great news manono!!
i have menus ,but not on mi DVD player ,its not so bad

cheers

[tRAVALO]

mannono and if i dont want to keep the original subtiles?
I dont need to replace the original cause i will burn from the original ,is that right? or is Reauthored ?

[manono]

Sorry, but I don't understand.

If you replace the original subtitles with one for your own language, then they should show up without problem. If you add a new language, keeping whatever is there to begin with, so there's now one more language than you started with, then after doing the "Replace" step using VobBlanker, you'll have to "turn on" the new subs in PGCEdit. I don't know if that answers your question, though.

[tRAVALO]

if i run the pgc edit to activate or turn on (not get excited) aha ,the subtitle ,then i dont need to run ifoedit after vobblanker process?
is that what you mean?

[tRAVALO]

sorri manono ,for be a pain in the ass ,
what happen is that
it just repeat or duplicate the first subtitle stream that is ,English but seems that have the same hexadecimal number that the portuguese subtitle .
so the filme has 4 subs originaly ,i put mine in the 5 and it will dup+licate the first that is the same hexadecimal number .
the final project ,should be the original paste ,confirm that? only to be sure
im stuck men ,f..this is insane
help
see:
the first and the last one has the same hexadecimal number
Im stuck here in this step ...

[manono]

if i run the pgc edit to activate or turn on (not get excited) aha ,the subtitle ,then i dont need to run ifoedit after vobblanker process?
is that what you mean?

Yes, that's what I mean. I don't know why anyone uses IFOEdit anymore anyway (except to do a Get VTS Sectors when all done), when PGCEdit is so easy. There's an explanation about how to use PGCEdit farther down on the first page. It's the post by Mystiqq explaining how to replace IFOEdit with PGCEdit in Step 9. PGCEdit has changed somewhat since he made his post,,and here's how you do it these days:

Open the final DVD in PGCEdit, double-click on the movie in the left window, turn on the first (or newest) sub by opening it and "Set". If there are already existing subs, move the slider(s) to the next higher number(s), the next number(s) not in use by the other sub stream(s). OK your way out to the main window. Find the green reel of film icon along the top row of icons and click on it. It's going to give you a message about the number of sub streams changing. "Yes", set the language if you wish, Save, and Test.

I don't know what that blue pic is. What are you using to author? If it's not Muxman, it should be.

[tRAVALO]

the blue pic if you click you can see better ,its ifoedit (himself aha.
i dont have any words ,for all your assistance ,
thanks a lot ((god bless you

[Janenba]

First of all big tnx to matrix who started this thread by providing us an good tutorial to start whit. And a big thanks to manono and all the others for their efforts and contribution.

Ive read throughout all the posts up to page 7, and unfortunately i didnt came across someone whit a simalar problem i have. Well, problem is an big word. Ive did everything whit a great succes even synchronizing the subs. But the problem is, when i try to watch my movie i first get to see an small portion of the beginning of the movie like 20 - 30 secs and then it skipps to the menu!!!.. Now, when i select the movie through the menu it plays just fine...!? And it happend for the first time whit a ntsc source. I have done several pal movies whitout a problem.

My question is, if theres another way to edit ifo's structure in other programs to maintain the menus and all...??

Its an 29.97fps Ntsc movie that ive demuxed through decrypter

Also, its to my understanding that i need an alternative author program to remux and add the original .sup subtitles ,right! Whereas dvdlab fails to load .sup subtitles at the moment. Now, my problem whit those alternative author progams (muxman so far in addition whit vobblanker to keep menus) is that my subtitles going out of synch for some odd reason!!! I dont have that whit Dvdlabpro!!! Well, it costed me 2 days to find out that i needed to create an subtitle stream whit dvdlabpro 1.xx (earlier version) and load the same stream in dvp 2.xx to get the synchronisation right. Something about dvdlabpro 2.xx screwws up my subtitle its synchronisation I especialy checked chapter by chapter in adition whit subtitle workshop and mediaplayer classic that every subtitle shows at the right timestamp before i finaly re-authored the whole movie. And, the subtitles appears to be correct!!

So, if pgedit is the only option left to re-author my movie...

1. How do i add subtitles + keeping the original dvd its menus in pgedit?
2. Can it add .sup subtitles?


Many tnx in advance,

urs truly Jannenba,

[tRAVALO]

I found a movie with no color paletts ,dont have subtitles so dont have color paletts ,the subs appear in pink ,its a nice color but i prefer black and white.

how can i resolve this ?

[tRAVALO]

Come on, man, this isn't rocket science. Did you even try what I described? Open the DVD in PGCEdit. Here I've highlighted the video in the left panel. [/img]

it's here ,sorry

[tRAVALO]

Hi ,

I have a movie that i can't preview or vizualize in subtitle creator.
can anyone help me to resolve this litle problem?

[manusse]

You mean a DVD? SubtitleCreator can only play DVDs.

Cheers
Manusse

[tRAVALO]

You mean a DVD? SubtitleCreator can only play DVDs.

Cheers
Manusse

yes DVD's ,and its a big problem since we can vizualize the movie and the subtitles either

[manusse]

Ok, I can help. First let's try to play it without the subtitles on it.
Check that Settings -> Overlay subtitles on DVD (experimental) is not checked. If it is, uncheck it. Then choose Settings -> Save Settings.
Now to play your DVD, click on the leftmost button just below the preview window and browse to one of your DVD files (any file because SubtitleCreator only needs the folder).
Your DVD should play well.
If it doesn't, tell me what's happening.
If it plays well, tell me also and I explain what's next.

Manusse

[tRAVALO]

Ok ,manusse
i will try later if you dont mind

very thankful