How to add your own subtitle to DVD (keep menu, multi-pgc)

[noelcm]

Hi manono
I started again using DVDshrink to load
The whole process ran with no errors. VOBblanker fixed minor items.
PCGedit will not recognise both subtitles
The buttons in Subpicture decoding streams read 0000 for the first and 0000 for the second. The final movie had one subtitle only although the menu showed both
I reran the whole process using IFOedit and the two subtitles worked correctly on Power DVD. But again no subtitles on the stand alone.
I shall try DVDlabpro and advise
Thanks for your help

Hi again manono
I have just completed the dvd with both subtitles using DVDlabpro.
Both sutitles came up correctly on the standalone.
Problem solved
Thanks again for your time and effort.

[julianocgn]

Excellent, dude! This post saved my life. It's very complicated, but it's worthwhile.
I agree with Mystiqq, it's easier using PGCedit.
Thanks a lot!

[rebeherm]

After you've done all those steps and added the subtitles to the movie, when you want to burn it, is there anyway that you can put it back on the original DVD?

[LSBREWER]

no

[madhulk]

How can I add subtitles for both the episodes of a DVD and its Special Features and keep the menu when MuxMan
always renames them VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB and so on?
There are four episodes which are merged into one movie (at least according to the original subtitles). And the same goes
for the Special Features.

[manono]

There are four episodes which are merged into one movie (at least according to the original subtitles). And the same goes for the Special Features.

If the episodes are all in the same title/same PGC, then you have to make the subs the same way - join them all together so they can be authored all at once using Muxman. I don't see where the naming convention Muxman uses has to do with anything.

[madhulk]

I don't see where the naming convention Muxman uses has to do with anything.

I mean how do I have to proceed afterwards in order to keep the menu for both the episodes and the Special Features?
Do I have to use VobBlanker only for the main movie or what? And when I try to fix the color palettes of the Special Features' subtitles I get the message indicating there's a conflict with the sound channels (The Special Fs use stereo 2 CH whilst the main movie uses 6 CH).

[manono]

You have 2 titles to replace, the episodes and the special features? If yes then you do separate 'Replaces' using VobBlanker, one for the episodes and another for the special features, before then processing the output . Forget that stuff about subs colors. After doing the 'Replace' step in VobBlanker you'll get back the original colors. The only reason to fix the colors of the Muxman authored DVDs is if you're not going to be using VobBlanker - if you won't be keeping the menus.

[madhulk]

You have 2 titles to replace, the episodes and the special features? If yes then you do separate 'Replaces' using VobBlanker, one for the episodes and another for the special features, before then processing the output . Forget that stuff about subs colors. After doing the 'Replace' step in VobBlanker you'll get back the original colors. The only reason to fix the colors of the Muxman authored DVDs is if you're not going to be using VobBlanker - if you won't be keeping the menus.

Okay, but when I make two replaces I'm losing the audio of the Special Features. Any ideas?
The selection on the screen are the Special Features. I have remuxed them in a separate folder if that's of any matter.

[manono]

Is the Special Features the one that's 8:14 long? If so you've done something wrong because there's different audio than originally. Check the Muxman authored version. Play it as a DVD (not just playing the VOB). Check for the right audio and the right subs. Or did you reencode the DD 5.1 audio to DD 2.0 for some reason?

Don't ever replace anything in there with '0 By' size or you'll run into all kinds of problems. Only replace titles with some size. There are only 3 titles in that VTS 3 that can be replaced.

[madhulk]

Still can't make it work. The main problem is MuxMan cannot process both the episodes and the special features at the same time and thus creating two separate VIDEO_TS.IFOs (one for eps and one for SF - it makes two separate reauthored DVDs). And then when using VobBlanker it only replaces the IFO of the main movie and that way I stay with only the subs I've added for the main movie and the ones for the Special Features stay intact (without mine).
This is the structure of the main movie - the episodes.

And this is the structure of the Special Features - The deleted scenes.
As you can see they have the same titles of the main files.

[r0lZ]

If your reauthored DVDs have exactly the same structure than the corresponding VTS of the original DVD (same number of Titles in the VTS, same number of PGCs, same number of cells in the PGCs), then you can simply replace the original titles with the new ones with PgcEdit:
Load the original DVD. Select any PGC of the episodes and use File -> Replace VTST Titles. Select VTS_01_0.IFO of the reauthored episodes DVD. Answer Yes when PgcEdit asks if you want to retain the original structure.
Repeat for the bonus.

IMO, that method is much more simple than using VobBlanker, but you have to replace the whole VTS (except the menus), and you cannot replace only some cells, chapters or titles independently.

[madhulk]

Okay, I've managed to add new subtitles for the main movie. Now the bigger problem is how to add subs for the
special features as well and retain the structure and the menu? Here's the structure of the reauthored DVD:

The highlighted in red are the special features.

[manono]

That pic is useless. Refer back to your first one from VobBlanker. You have 3 titles (with size) in the 3rd VTS. Add in the subs to each of the 3 title/PGCs (or maybe to just the first one, depending) and process. You could have done the whole thing all at once.

[madhulk]

You could have done the whole thing all at once.

How?

[manono]

By replacing the main movie at the same time as the extras, using VobBlanker.

[madhulk]

By replacing the main movie at the same time as the extras, using VobBlanker.

I tried but it didn't work. It showed the message for the sound channels I posted earlier and there was no sound afterwards.

[manono]

Then you either replaced the wrong PGC or did something wrong using Muxman. I already told you to play the Muxman authored video to make sure it was the one you wanted to replace. Did you do it?

[madhulk]

Then you either replaced the wrong PGC or did something wrong using Muxman. I already told you to play the Muxman authored video to make sure it was the one you wanted to replace. Did you do it?

Yes, I did and it still gives me the same error.

[manono]

Then I don't believe you. If you muxed the right video with the right audio and then replaced the right PGC in VobBlanker, you won't get that message. What happens if you just answer 'No' to the question (assuming the right audio to be DD 5.1) and go ahead and process it? What do you get out the other end? Have you tried that?

[petervanpan]

Hello
Dear Manono, rOlZ, madhulk, goonix and Msc_Alex.
If you can help me.
I have the DVD of the movie Foul Play. Originally the DVD is complete including Menu. Ripped the DVD to HD.
Extracts the subtitle in English and did the translation for the Portuguese. Then I added the subtitle in Portuguese to the DVD, tutorial by following this link: https://forum.videohelp.com/topic275603.html.
I did Demux, Reauthor and Remux the entire DVD without changing its structure.
The new DVD is perfect. The new subtitle in Portuguese is properly synchronized with the audio.
I can access the new subtitle by remote control from a standalone DVD player, but the menu does not have the corresponding button to the subtitle added.
The menu has only two buttons to the caption: English and None.
Now the request for assistance:
1) How to create a button to add the menu with the same design of existing ones?
2) How to insert this new button - so the menu has 3 buttons for subtitles: English, Portuguese and None - and how to call this button the appropriate caption in Portuguese?
3) What software should I use and a step by step tutorial of the whole procedure, if possible with pictures, since I do not know to perform this part.
I am grateful for the attention and help.
petervanpan

[madhulk]

Then I don't believe you. If you muxed the right video with the right audio and then replaced the right PGC in VobBlanker, you won't get that message. What happens if you just answer 'No' to the question (assuming the right audio to be DD 5.1) and go ahead and process it? What do you get out the other end? Have you tried that?

When I do as you say everything's all right with the subs but I loose the sound track.
Anyway I found a way to reenable it again via DVDRedo.

[madhulk]

Hello
Dear Manono, rOlZ, madhulk, goonix and Msc_Alex.
If you can help me.
I have the DVD of the movie Foul Play. Originally the DVD is complete including Menu. Ripped the DVD to HD.
Extracts the subtitle in English and did the translation for the Portuguese. Then I added the subtitle in Portuguese to the DVD, tutorial by following this link: https://forum.videohelp.com/topic275603.html.
I did Demux, Reauthor and Remux the entire DVD without changing its structure.
The new DVD is perfect. The new subtitle in Portuguese is properly synchronized with the audio.
I can access the new subtitle by remote control from a standalone DVD player, but the menu does not have the corresponding button to the subtitle added.
The menu has only two buttons to the caption: English and None.
Now the request for assistance:
1) How to create a button to add the menu with the same design of existing ones?
2) How to insert this new button - so the menu has 3 buttons for subtitles: English, Portuguese and None - and how to call this button the appropriate caption in Portuguese?
3) What software should I use and a step by step tutorial of the whole procedure, if possible with pictures, since I do not know to perform this part.
I am grateful for the attention and help.
petervanpan

I believe you should find the answers you are looking for here:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/254043-Guide-for-extracting-menus-for-editing-and-r...00#post1514500

[madhulk]

Hi,
I have a DVD with 3 audio streams and I just want to add another set of subtitles.
The problem is the 3rd audio track is the producers' commentary in the middle two episodes.
Now when I demux the audio track (using PGcDemux) it starts from the very beginning so when I mux everything back
together instead of beginning from episode 10 the commentaries begin from episode 9 (which is the first in
this DVD). Do I have to manually insert silence in the track in order to play from the next episode, and if yes, what
program should I use?
All the episodes are merged together as a one.

[manono]

I don't know if this is the only way, or the most efficient way, but it is one way. Take the commentary track and add a delay equal to the exact length of that first episode. The effect will be the same as adding silence to the beginning. To add the delay use DelayCut. Then mux as normal.

[madhulk]

Thanks, manono!

[kimber]

I found this to be the best guide so far and it works!
I was adding to DVD with no subtitles and the only thing that caught me after step was that the colour of the subtitles was changed. They were correct at step 6. So adding the original movie at step 7 must have changed the colours despite the fact it had no subtitles.

[manono]

So adding the original movie at step 7 must have changed the colours despite the fact it had no subtitles.

VobBlanker will just use the original CLUT (Color LookUp Table), rather than the one you created. It's an easy matter to get back your colors using either PGCEdit or DVDSubEdit. Since DVDSubEdit has a guide for this, you might try it to get the colors you want:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/Guides/ChangingColors/Guide.htm

Or, you can import the CLUT you created from within PGCEdit. Either that or choose the colors yourself from within the CLUT. Open the final DVD in PGCEdit and double-click on the movie and then take it from there.

And there's a more up-to-date guide for this these days, a guide which Baldrick has written. You might try his Method 2 the next time you have a similar project:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/277950-How-to-add-new-subtitles-to-an-existing-DVD

[designbuyers]

How about DVDSubEdit ? allows you to visualize and make modifications to the subpics (subtitles or button highlights in menus) directly inside the VOB files, without the need to demux and remux the subpic stream..

Anyone have try it out ?

[axl70]

Actually, i need help. but, it seems this thread not active anymore...