Microsoft: Longhorn is Now Windows Vista

[edDV]

And to think someone actually got paid to put a crap name like that together for the product....or maybe it was Bill gates idea? :P

Microsoft once implied I was too old to work there, after being invited. I could have saved them this embarrassment.

[Nilfennasion]

Given that Intel is now flirting with Apple, perhaps Desperation would be a more fitting name.

Imagine the slogan: "Windows Desperation: yes, we really did bug test it this time... no, really, we did... if you believe us, we'll be your friend... no, really..."

[MOVIEGEEK]

I think 'Windows OT' would have pretty good

What does OT stand for?Orwellian Threat?
www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=274204

I think 'Windows GT' would be cool.
MS ad:
*Bill Gates dressed in a F1 jumpsuit with helmet in hand*
"Breed from years of hard work and a racing heritage second to none,the new Windows GT will blow the competition off the shelves"
:P

[Nilfennasion]

I just thought of a way in which the DOJ could punish MS's choice-destroying practises. Make them unable to release new versions until they do a complete reversal not only of the way in which they conduct business, but also in the way they program.

"Windows 2008: We didn't just slap a whole heap of crap on top of Windows XP this time. Really, we didn't..."

[bazooka]

windows pista me off

[lumis]

they should just call it "windows 8.0"

windows 95 = windows 4.0
windows 98 = windows 5.0
windows 98SE = windows 5.1
windows ME = windows 6.0
windows XP = windows 7.0
windows vista = windows 8.0

[edDV]

they should just call it "windows 8.0"

windows 95 = windows 4.0
windows 98 = windows 5.0
windows 98SE = windows 5.1
windows ME = windows 6.0
windows XP = windows 7.0
windows vista = windows 8.0

Windows Vista "Eight" my homework!

[jimmalenko]

Where does Windows 2000 and Windows NT fit in ???

[edDV]

Where does Windows 2000 and Windows NT fit in ???

Actually original windows ended with ME

"New Technology" was a parallel path

NT
2000
XP (SP1, SP2)
Vista

[jimmalenko]

exactly

[Nilfennasion]

XP is nothing more than a point release of 2000. They have exactly the same kernel, the only difference being that XP adds a lot of crap that most people do not need.

A more realistic table:

Windows 95 = Windows 4.0
Windows 98 = Windows 4.1
Windows 98SE = Windows 4.11 (anyone remember Windoze for Workgroups?)
Windows ME = Windows 4.2
Windows 2000 = Windows NT 5.0
Windows XP = Windows NT 5.1

Oddly enough, if you check Windoze's own internal kernal names, you will see that Mickeysoft agree with me on the last two entries.

[lumis]

i was only counting the "consumer" operating systems..

as NT & 2000 were more "business" operating systems, i didnt include them.

windows 2000 = NT 5.0
windows 2003 = NT 6.0

[guns1inger]

Windows ME should be
Windows 4.11.1 beta-pre-release-didn't-you-test-it-no-I-thought-you-did-maybe-no-one-will-notice

[vitualis]

Ah... the angry elf.

If you are talking about "most" people as in your ordinary mum and dad, they certainly appreciate the added GUI extras that made the NT core usable as a consumer OS compared to Win 2000. That is, stop spouting crap.

If you don't like the GUI interface, you can turn most of it off easily which leaves you essentially with the Win2K interface with better driver support.

Regards.

[Nilfennasion]

That is, stop spouting crap.

That is exactly what everyone who was computing in 1990 has to say to every Mickeysoft apologist such as yourself. You're not fooling anyone.

In an ideal world, believing that it is good to have only one genuine choice would be punished by banishment to some place where there is only one choice of doctor, one choice of transport, one choice of retailer, et cetera ad nauseum. I would love to come to Sydney to give you the smack in the face I owe you for claiming anyone who wants to engineer our choices against us is a good person. So too would a lot of Aspies stuck in places like this.

[BJ_M]

"When tech company Vista discovered the title for the new Windows Operating System version, company founder John Wall was not amused. John Wall may take this to court because he knows of how protective Microsoft is over their trademarks. From the article: 'A Microsoft spokesman said the company chose Vista from a list developed by the Windows team, based on attributes of the new software. Among its primary selling points are new tools for searching and viewing the contents of a PC; communications features; and a lighter desktop appearance with transparent objects.'"

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002397450_microvista23.html

[lumis]

i would have let microsoft roll out their product, get on a billion computer.. and then sue them for $500 billion dollars, and then settle out of court for another ridiculous amount.

[Raga]

Sources at Wikipedia speak of a new feature in Windows Vista. "The blue screen of death in one form or another has been present in all Windows operating systems since Windows version 3.1. It has been said that in Vista it will be complemented with the red screen of death, which will be used for the more serious errors."



Artist's view. Final product display may differ from the sketch.

[NightWing]

Remember this is the group that created the papper clip helper and Bob!

I guess they want to copy Apple in all things.......

[vitualis]

Elf, I say it again. Stop spouting crap. Yes, Windows has its problems but going on a meaningless rant on how "most" people don't find the GUI enhancements in XP useful is simply ignoring the obvious.

If you don't like MS, then use MacOS, or Unix, or BeOS or Linux. You have a choice. I can't understand why someone like you who seems to loath MS will continue to use Windows. Grow up and show some backbone.

Regards.

[edDV]

...
I guess they want to copy Apple in all things.......

How are they copying Apple?

Apple is a pathetic competitor. They have one last chance to get their butt in gear.

[NightWing]

Simple they pick a name that is in use by a lot of companies...

There was already talk last Thr, when the name leaked, that companies that use that name in their compant title or products were looking at possible legal action.

It wont come to anything.... Simular to Apple Tiger OS vs Tigerdirect.

And MS has cooked up a lot of good stuff also.

[lumis]

Elf, I say it again. Stop spouting crap. Yes, Windows has its problems but going on a meaningless rant on how "most" people don't find the GUI enhancements in XP useful is simply ignoring the obvious.

If you don't like MS, then use MacOS, or Unix, or BeOS or Linux. You have a choice. I can't understand why someone like you who seems to loath MS will continue to use Windows. Grow up and show some backbone.

Regards.

nice..

[DereX888]

XP is nothing more than a point release of 2000. They have exactly the same kernel, the only difference being that XP adds a lot of crap that most people do not need.

A more realistic table:

Windows 95 = Windows 4.0
Windows 98 = Windows 4.1
Windows 98SE = Windows 4.11 (anyone remember Windoze for Workgroups?)
Windows ME = Windows 4.2
Windows 2000 = Windows NT 5.0
Windows XP = Windows NT 5.1

Oddly enough, if you check Windoze's own internal kernal names, you will see that Mickeysoft agree with me on the last two entries.

thats more like it:

Windows 1.x = DOS-based Windows 1.1+ (anyone remember it?)
Windows 2.x = never materialized, being developed when Msoft and IBM were jointly working on what IBM in the end finished as OS/2
Windows 3.x = DOS-based Windows for Workgroups, Windows 3.11
Windows 3.5+ = New Technology-based Windows NT (3.5x+)
Windows 4.x = DOS-based Windows 95/98/98SE and Windows ME (4.9)
Windows 5.x = NT-based Windows 2000 (5.0), XP (5.1), 2003 (5.1) [new kernel than NT3.52)
Windows 6.x = NT-based Windows Vista/Longhorn (new kernel than Win2000/XP)
......................with version 6.6.6 being final retail release of Longhorn

not to be bashing Msoft (I use Win2K at home as my OS of choice - I prefer it over any other OS and its a damn fine simple OS), but Msoft as always - even their numbering convention is inconsistant at least

IMO Windows Vista is just a 3rd or 4th different version of Windozes;
all Win3.11/9x/ME were same DOS-based with different GUIs, Win NT was their 2nd really different OS, Win2K/XP/2K3 was third (although its based so much on NT that I would argue how much different is the kernel), and Vista is either new 4th kernel or its the same as Win2K-based ones with just new number...
I wonder where OS/2 fits in here (since it was the framework for NT)

[edDV]

...
Windows 2.x = never materialized

Sure it did. I have v2.11 (1989) running on my vintage IBM PC 640MB Ram, VGA

http://www.oldos.org/oshistory/win2x.php

[BJ_M]

yep i remember windows 2 ..


also windows 4 was NT4 , one of the BEST OS microsoft ever produced and still for some things - the fastest .. goes up to SP6 and is still used on a LOT of machines and MS still sells it as an embedded OS for some equipment ..

NT4 is also the heart and soul of win2k and winXP (more so that NT3.5) , a lot of code has not changed much ..


NT3 is also in there , but Nt3.5 is the more importaint version ..

[DereX888]

Windows 2.x ?
Well, I was wrong then :hmm:
any screens of it please?
EDIT: nevermind screen, I followed your link. It sure looks like Windows 1

NT4 was just bettered-up NT3.5, wasnt it?
If you ryn winver on nt4 what does it say? It can't be 4.x.xxxx since 4.0.xxxx was Windows95...

Yeah, I think so - win2k was built on NT code, hence XP/2003 must have chunks of it as well.

[BJ_M]

winver on nt4

it says NT4.0

NT 4 was quite a bit different than NT3 , NT 4 added the GUI from win95 (but no DOS) and also a much more stable core ..

in terms of installation scripts -- 4 was NT 4 , not 95 (and indicated a NT kernel) ... Like:

Using paramFile: G:\Oracle10G\Disk1\install\win32\oraparam.ini
Starting Oracle Universal Installer ...

Checking required pre-requisites...

Checking Operating System Version:must be 4.0,5.0,5.1 or 5.2.Actual 5.0 passed

Checking for SERVICE_PACK: must be 1, 2 or 3. Actual Service Pack 4 Failed<<<

[churchie04]

I read the story from The Register about the guy that owns Vista trying to sue MS.

All I can say is that if his reasoning is that it will create confusion, then he needs to get a better lawyer.

Honestly, if Windows Vista gets confused with a company called Vista, then any window making, cleaning, repair company should've already sued Microsoft for using the term Windows.

Anyone that can get those two things confused, needs to either A) learn even a little about computers, or B) get deported.

[Raga]

And imagine if it so happens that everybody talks, "Vista Windows, crashing all the time!"