Windows Media Encoder

[Jelleke]

Hi,

I wanted to convert a video file to wmv9 with windows media encoder because I have read on the internet that you can get very good internet video quality with it.
So, I tried it but my result is very bad.
How come? Can anybody help me?
Here is a short preview:
http://users.telenet.be/skaterke/itwymmf.wmv
The video is very slow with errors!!!!

Thnx

[junkmalle]

You're probably just going to have to use a higher bitrate (bigger file) or smaller frame size. Also, get rid of the black borders.

[edDV]

Start with high bitrates and work down.

Wmv can get great results.

[thecoalman]

it also appears you increased the horizontal resolution. If that's the case you want to avoid doing that. Either use the same as your source or smaller.

[Jelleke]

Still can't get something good out of it.
Don't know what the problem is.
Maybe it's time for a new pc
If I had the money, immediatly

[edDV]

What is the source file?

[Jelleke]

It's an avi with a lossles video codec (PicVideo MJPEG)
It's converted from a dvd and it's 1 GIG for 3.17mins So, not a very long file! I have much files from that lentgh and I want them in a very good quality for a website so that they are 10MB or something May be smaller!

[edDV]

I never tried a MJPEG with the WMV encoder.
I may be able to load one later.

[junkmalle]

I suspect WME is having problems reading your MJPEG source file. Try converting it to uncomrpessed RGB or HuffYUV and then use that as your source in WME.

[edDV]

I ran a high quality M-JPEG (Pinnacle codec) file through at 2Mbps VBR and like yours, the results were poor compared to uncompressed, DV or MPeg2 source files.

I'd take junkmalle's suggestion.

[thecoalman]

Here's what you can expect, this is at@ 450kbps, you have to increase the datarate as the resolution gets higher to maintain quality. Ignore the audio quality, it's screwed up at the source.

http://www.nepadigital.com/40lbhead/video/untitled3.wmv

[Jelleke]

Well,
I tried the lossless codecs but it still doesn't seem to work How bad.
So, thecoalman, do i need to get a lower datarate then 450. I think then the quality is poor and I will have the same problem, or do you mean something else?

[thecoalman]

Well,
I tried the lossless codecs but it still doesn't seem to work How bad.
So, thecoalman, do i need to get a lower datarate then 450. I think then the quality is poor and I will have the same problem, or do you mean something else?

The lowest bitrate you can use depends on the frame size & framerate......... As edDV suggested start with a high bitrate and work your way down until it starts to look like shit or whatever is acceptable to you. My example video has some macroblocking if you notice but for the most part it is OK.

If you reduce the framerate you can use lower bitrates as well but at some point it will start to get a stuttering/choppy affect. Anything below about 10FPS startsd to look pretty bad. My example video uses the standard NTSC framerate.

BTW check that the audio bitrate isn't set to high because that may be using up all your bandwidth.