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  1. MSU StegoVideo released as standalone program.
    This is the simplest way to hide information in file, that will be compressed.
    • Put your file into video
    • Compress video
    • Decode information from compressed file!
    • Enjoy!
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    This strikes me as mighty useless. Interesting, but useless.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    This strikes me as mighty useless. Interesting, but useless.
    It would be cool if you could convert any file to DV-AVI. Instant $5 14gig external HD's.
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  4. use winrar to rar up a folder containing your "data".
    rename it to .avi.
    use winrar again or .7z to archive again.
    and call it then what you like,only you know the original name,and file type.
    hey presto,easy peasy!
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    Originally Posted by RottenFoxBreath
    use winrar to rar up a folder containing your "data".
    rename it to .avi.
    use winrar again or .7z to archive again.
    and call it then what you like,only you know the original name,and file type.
    hey presto,easy peasy!
    This appears to be a playable video though, the file is hidden in the data stream. I like my idea best.
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  6. I wonder if you could hide a virus in a video and infect anyone who plays it. That would be bad news.
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  7. Originally Posted by limpy
    I wonder if you could hide a virus in a video and infect anyone who plays it. That would be bad news.
    It's been done with still images so doing the same in video would be no problem.

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1665764,00.asp
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  8. Originally Posted by limpy
    I wonder if you could hide a virus in a video and infect anyone who plays it. That would be bad news.
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    Originally Posted by limpy
    I wonder if you could hide a virus in a video and infect anyone who plays it. That would be bad news.
    From playing a video AFAIK there's no way that it can be done. On the other hand as far as opening a file that was hidden in a video yes that would be possible.

    You'll notice that you can only put small files in it, the app probably creates a valid video with "noise" that it can interpret and reassemble.
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  10. Originally Posted by limpy
    I wonder if you could hide a virus in a video and infect anyone who plays it. That would be bad news.
    That's the first thing that came to my mind.
    I really don't see any legitimate use for this.
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  11. Originally Posted by thecoalman
    Originally Posted by limpy
    I wonder if you could hide a virus in a video and infect anyone who plays it. That would be bad news.
    From playing a video AFAIK there's no way that it can be done.
    It's quite possible and has even been done. The basic technique is to structure the image so that decoding it causes a buffer overflow on the stack. One that overwrites the return address from a procedure call. When the procedure tries to return to the calling function it returns to the address specified by the buffer overflow instead -- the virus/worm code. This is a very common type of attack.
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  12. Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK and others
    I really don't see any legitimate use for this.
    Stegonography (for example http://www.jjtc.com/Steganography/) is nothing new and is an important tool. Suppose you live in an oppresive regime which is committing atrocities. If you send an email to your family describing the crimes you'll quickly end up in jail. Or dead. You could hide the message within a picture or video and get the message through secretly. Of course, terrorists and organized criminals can use these techniques too...
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    Originally Posted by junkmalle
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    I know of the the vulnerabilites that was present in images but I never heard of it in a video. From My undrstanding the image threat has been negated and only MS was vulnerable. I haven't heard of any other viruses your able to embed within a dta file like a video or image. I'm sure there's some 14 year kid working on it as I type this though.
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  14. Originally Posted by thecoalman
    It would be cool if you could convert any file to DV-AVI. Instant $5 14gig external HD's.
    You can...
    http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/dvbackup.html

    I'm pretty sure that there is a Windows version of a such a program too...

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  15. http://software.silicon.com/malware/0,3800003100,39124641,00.htm

    A software slip-up in RealNetworks' music player means that Windows, Mac and Linux computers could be compromised by a fake movie file...
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    Originally Posted by junkmalle
    http://software.silicon.com/malware/0,3800003100,39124641,00.htm

    A software slip-up in RealNetworks' music player means that Windows, Mac and Linux computers could be compromised by a fake movie file...
    Well I guess that would be a problem for me but they would first have to pay me to install it. That's the first I heard of virus in a video..... according to the article it was simialr to the JPEG vulnerability. Realistically chances of getting a virus at this poin and time from a video file is nil, who knows maybe that could change.
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  17. They can hit you with a virus in video.
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  18. Originally Posted by bbrevolt
    They can hit you with a virus in video.
    Video is used as container. You can save virus into ordinary file archives!
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    DmitriyV,

    Thanks for the info and link. I wasn't aware there was a freeware video-steganography program available. I look forward to playing with it when I get some free time. Do you know if the resulting file is susceptible to statistical analysis? Just curious.

    To those of you concerned about viruses, ANY data file (mpeg, avi, jpeg, zip, rar, or even text files) can contain a virus, but there is absolutely no danger unless the virus is allowed to execute. The danger comes when a program accessing the data file erroneously enables the virus to execute.

    Vulnerabilities to stack overflows, heap corruption, or deliberately malformed input don't have to exist in programs, it's just faster, easier and cheaper to use existing insecure libraries, not devote the extra time needed to fully validate input, and not review the code specifically looking for vulnerabilities. On the other hand, these same practices do make software affordable.
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