NEW WIndows to Require Monitor-Based DRM

[Xylob the Destroyer]

well that's good & bad...
on the plus, I'll be able to watch Blu-Ray/HD-DVD, but nothing from my PC via S-Video (or component assuming I upgrade my video card at some point in the future - I like the ATI AIW X800XT but it's PRICEY).
Do you think anybody will ever come out with a video card that has HDMI out?
my current vid card has DVI out, but it doesn't work with my TV (https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=258227).

[whitejremiah]

Well, its bad enough that people have to shell out a few hundred dollars every few years for replacing computers (THAT is bad enough for me, im on kinda a tight budget) you know how outright ticked off i'd be if i dropped 4000 bux on a TV two years ago and it didnt have this stupid new port on it that the stupid TV and HD companies want to force on people.........i'd honestly write a note to each of the companies telling them how upset i was...not an email, an honest to god snail mail.....(the type you have to actually sit down and scribble as opposed to typing three times as fast as you can actually write) After that i would file a complaint with the BBB against each of the involved company then i would sell my TV and NOT buy a new one. Ever.

[waheed]

Do you think anybody will ever come out with a video card that has HDMI out?

I very much doubt it, but you never know. Many GPUs do support HDCP via the DVI port. I wont be tempted in buying a new GPU if it does support HDMI in the future just because of HD DVD/Blu Ray.

[edDV]

Do you think anybody will ever come out with a video card that has HDMI out?

I very much doubt it, but you never know. Many GPUs do support HDCP via the DVI port. I wont be tempted in buying a new GPU if it does support HDMI in the future just because of HD DVD/Blu Ray.

If Microsoft gets its way at the descretion of Hollywood, I expect to see tightly controlled video cards intended for HTPC application with HDMI (with HDCP) outputs to an external HDTV. They will be tightly tied to Blu-Ray-HD DVD encoded streams and the Broadcast flag for internal DTV tuners.

I would fully expect this concept to be extended to downloadable or streaming video rentals (SD and HD) that include time expiration. Apple will focus on downloading media servers with built in HD DVD for use in the livingroom home theaters. They too must convince Hollywood that they can keep it all secure.

Tight encryption will be required to make any of this feasible as a business.

[Xylob the Destroyer]

I sure hope cards with HDMI start coming out soon, just so I can have a better picture for gaming.
S-Video ain't cuttin' it, and I don't know if getting a card that supports component video would really be all that much of an improvement....
the real 'problem' is that the capture card I have is fine -- there's nothing wrong with it, so there's really no reason to get a new one. that and the fact that it was a gift from my girlfriend and she'll be PISSED if I go buy a new one.

[Jukka]

NEW WIndows to Require Monitor-Based DRM

My reply - "I wont be buying it then"

[edDV]

I seriously doubt it will be a requirement for anything other than HD DVD or protected download media playback.

[SilverBlade]

DRM monitors..what's next to have DRM? keyboards? mice? cpu cases? soundcards? video cards? network cards? RAM? Hard drives? IDE cables?

They sound ridiculas...but so does a DRM monitor.

[Xylob the Destroyer]

only some of those sound ridiculous
I'm sure video-cards and sound-cards are in the works.

[painkiller]

hhhmmph


makes me want to laser the satellites.

[SilverBlade]

Like anything that had a code or restriction on it in the past, someone has always found a way around it.

DVD Jon cracked the DVD codes, and now everyone can decrypt them.

Discreet had claimed that no one in 1 million years could defeat their security on 3DSMax. It was cracked 1 day later.

This DRM hardware will be cracked as well. Everything that has software attached to it can be cracked through the software. Only a matter of time.

[AlecWest]

Get over it....One way or another you'll be forced to upgrade to new hardware and OSs.

Be careful how you use the term "upgrade." To me, an "upgrade" implies an "improvement." Changing in a suit of clothes I control for a straightjacket someone else controls is not what I'd call an "improvement."

Seriously, though, I'm hoping that the advent of super-DRM'd operating systems will annoy enough people (and developers) that open-source operating systems become more popular.

[themichael]

It won't matter. Once enough sheeple buy a DRM Dell/HP/Compaq/eMachine/Gateway computer, the protection system will be in place and sheeple will be used to it. If you don't like it, you can either hack it or do without.

Remember, you can't put a frog in a boiling pot of water, but you can put him in a cold pot and turn on the heat......

[Nilfennasion]

Our productivity under Windoze has actually decreased compared to the DOS days. Mostly because GUI operations are impossible to script. The only reason we are forced to upgrade is because Microshaft deliberately make new products incompatible with the old (does the X-Box 360 even support old X-Box games?).

This could well be the going too far that forces even the most ignorant consumer to wake up and say "I ain't buying no more".

[junkmalle]

This could well be the going too far that forces even the most ignorant consumer to wake up and say "I ain't buying no more".

But it's called "trusted computing". And it's so secure! Aren't those good things? Don't you feel better already?!

[RAAGAAman]

Something like this is already in place in Japan where HD broadcasts are more common. In Japan you cannot playback HD content on your PC or NB-PC. The playback is in SD.


RG

[Nilfennasion]

I would not trust Microsoft as far as I could throw Bill Gates (given that I probably outweigh him by 40 pounds, I could probably throw him a few feet). And Microsoft's definition of secure is somewhat wanting, too, given that a lot of the kinds of encryption they use are reinvented in school every year. The information I had on one hard disc when I installed a game on one partition and Windows 95 on the other was not kept very secure for long (I wish I could have snapshotted the results of a DIR command... scary). So no, I do not feel better.

Once I find a Linux manual that explains in plain English how to install a program, or they pull the finger out and make the execution as simple as it is in Windoze, I am doing all my Internet stuff through that OS. Downloads in Linux take so much less time it is almost infuriating.