"Invalid IFO/BUP File" - how do I fix THAT??

[nathanaa]

I loaded a friends home-made DVD disc (she is having problems with it, now that she made it she can't watch it and she apparently erased all of her original files, so no backups to go from) into DVDDecryptor last night, ran the program, and at 99% complete an error message came up, here's the last part of the log:

<about 2000 lines of 'Pack Header Not Found'>
W 23:03:05 'Pack Header Not Found' logging has been halted for now.
I 23:04:43 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 1582 - 1613) - KEY: N/A
W 23:04:43 On-the-fly IFO/BUP file patching failed!
W 23:04:43 File Name: VTS_01_0.BUP
W 23:04:43 Size: 65,536 bytes
W 23:04:43 Reason: Invalid IFO / BUP file.
I 23:11:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:06
I 23:11:58 Average Read Rate: 2,583 KB/s (1.9x) - Maximum Read Rate: 5,290 KB/s (3.8x)

The DVD will not play in a standalone player, when I try I get this Escher-like schmeer of blue, purple, red, and green with a shadowy and jumbled image of the menu from whatever the previous DVD in the player was - not the *current* DVD, the *previous* DVD (which tells me there is some kind of memory working there, a surprise to me!).

I then tried to run the DVD through DVDShrink and got this message:

"INVALID DVD NAVIGATION STRUCTURE.

OVERLAPPED I/O OPERATION IS IN PROGRESS."

So - what is the IFO/BUP file for exactly, and is there any way to fix this? I seem to have this hazy recollection from a few months ago about something with TMPGEnc being able to help with something like this?

Any advice/comments/input appreciated folks!

[mats.hogberg]

As it's a home made DVD, you can just take the VOBs as source and load them in TMPGEnc DVD Author to reautor it. If it's a DVD with menu and stuff, you'll lose it, but at least the main title can be saved this way.

/Mats

[nathanaa]

Hmmm - hadn't thought of that. So what, I just load the "DVD Video File" and I will presumably have to select a particular file? And I just do that repeatedly for each file on the disc? If I understand this right, then it shouldn't be a big deal.

Thanks for the idea, I'll give it a try and post on how it went.

[nathanaa]

Ok, I ripped the disc to my HDD as I mentioned above. I then started TMPGEnc DVD Author, and tried to "Add DVD Video". The selection window popped up, but there were no options available for selection. I then tried the "Add File" button, and tried to load a VOB file. I got a message window though that said it was an illegal video format and had to be MPEG 1 or MPEG 2.

So now what should I try?

[Dragonsf]

Have you tried to extract the video and audio with VobEdit and reauthor them?

[nathanaa]

Nope, never used VOBEdit. I don't even have it. I have TMPGEnc DVD Author, but that doesn't seem to be cutting it. I can look into VOBEdit it it's freeware. I just try to limit how many programs I have competing for space on my computer. Are there any other (freeware) programs you might recommend I look at for VOB to DVD conversion?

[nathanaa]

Just read the blurb on VOBEdit, downloaded it, think I'll give that a try - thanks for the tip. I'll post after I've given it a try and see if it works for me.

[Dragonsf]

As long as your VOB file isn't corrupt, Vobedit should do the job. It took long for me to realize, that this is the tool of choice for converting Vobfiles to elementary streams. Good luck anyway!

Good thinking, to keep the number of tools as low as possible, but sometimes you need a special tool to fulfill a special task.

[nathanaa]

Thanks....yeah, like I said, check back, I'll update on my progress in a day or two when I've had a chance to try it out. It sure *sounds* like it will be what I need.

[jimmalenko]

http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/test.htm#ifoedit might help if it's just one titleset (VTS_01_1.VOB through to VTS_01_4.VOB or whatever).

[nathanaa]

Ok, I've downloaded VOBEdit, and I have no idea how to use it. I've now read two different guides, and they both talk about using VOBEdit in conjunction with IFOEdit. I'm not sure if I need to do this, I don't *think* so though.

Here's what I have so far - I have 4 DVDs, each with 4 VOB files, plus all the other files that are usually in the VIDEO_TS folder. I ripped each disc to my HDD. I want to use VOBEdit to extract each episode onto the HDD. Once I have the individual episodes, I know how to put them into TMPGEnc DVDAuthor and make a new menu and re-burn them back onto DVD-Rs.

I just don't know how to use VOBEdit. I'm pretty sure each of the VOBs I have are an individual episode (although to be honest, I'm not sure). Do I need to follow the entire guide, including using IFOEdit, as instructed in the following guides, or can I just use VOBEdit to pull each VOB file out separately, so I can look them over and find out if they are each an individual episode file or if some of them need to be joined?

http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/test.htm#ifoedit

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/120021.php

I hope this made sense, if I haven't provided enough info, please ask and I'll try to answer. Thanks for any help!

[nelson133]

If that doesn't work, here's something that sometimes works for me. The old freeware version of DVDFab (0.17) wil repair or replace missing ifo and bup files, it will also do some repair of vob files. Last I checked it was still available on Mr. Bass's site. Nyah Levi

[jimmalenko]

I have 4 DVDs, each with 4 VOB files, plus all the other files that are usually in the VIDEO_TS folder. I ripped each disc to my HDD. I want to use VOBEdit to extract each episode onto the HDD. Once I have the individual episodes, I know how to put them into TMPGEnc DVDAuthor and make a new menu and re-burn them back onto DVD-Rs.

Why not just import the VIDEO_TS folders as-is into TMPGEnc DVD Author after you've ripped them (it will ask you to select one title) and just repeat that process for each episode ?


EDIT:
Just read back though the thread. Are these DVDs different to the homemade one that was giving you problems up above ? Also, you should be able to isolate episodes by ripping in IFO Mode. Then just set File-splitting to "None" in your settings and you'll get one VOB per episode.

[nathanaa]

"EDIT:
Just read back though the thread. Are these DVDs different to the homemade one that was giving you problems up above ?"

No, these are the same DVDs, a friend of mine made them, burned the discs, then she deleted all the files on her HDD. She then threw the video tapes away that she had gotten the TV show episodes off of. By the time she got around to actually trying to watch her DVDs, it was too late. So, that's why I'm trying to help out.

I originally ripped each disc with DVDDecrypter in IFO mode. After I posted last time, I went and rechecked a few things. There are actually 5 large VOB files in each VIDEO_TS folder (from the rip's I made). Also, I found the VOBEdit "Preview" option, and managed to view two of the VOB's, and at least the first 2 are the same episode. After that it kept locking up my computer, so that's as far as I got. I found out from her that there are only 8 total episodes on the 4 DVDs, so each disc must have 2 episodes - I'm guessing, and she can't remember, it's been so long since she made the discs (over a year).

As for using TDA, it won't work. If I try to load as DVD video files, there's no IFO/BUP file for it to read so it errors out.

"Also, you should be able to isolate episodes by ripping in IFO Mode. Then just set File-splitting to "None" in your settings and you'll get one VOB per episode."

Do you mean, re-rip with DVDDecrypter and use that setting? My video editing computer is running a DVDRB process for me right now, so I can't check until tomorrow. If so, that would be great.

So, if I can re-rip to keep the episodes together, how do I get each episode separated from the rest of the VIDEO_TS file contents?

Do I use VOBEdit and Open a particular VOB, then use the Demux button? And have it save to a VIDEO_TS folder I create somewhere else? Is this the process, or ???

Any further help greatly appreciated, thanks for the info thus far, very helpful!

[Faithful Follower]

Create a new sets of IFO's with IFOEdit.
Search for a guide.

[nathanaa]

Ok, I re-ripped each of the four homemade discs my friend gave me in DVDDecrypter's IFO mode.

I then copy & pasted each of the 8 large VOB files from the DVDDecrypter output files into a new file I made ("Working"), renaming them from four sets of VTS_01_1 and VTS_01_2, to VTS_01_1 - VTS_01_8. I did this because I am guessing for eight episodes that is how I should do it. If I am wrong, please correct me.

I then opened IFOEdit and fillowing the guide here:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/120021.php

I created IFO/BUP files for the VTS_01_1.VOB file. However, I did NOT "Join Clips", as earlier instructed in the guide, as they are each individual episodes, not smaller portions of one larger video file.

Did I do that wrong thought? Should I have done the Join Clips step? I tried get DVDShrink to open the Working file, but it errored out (same message as above, "Overlapped I/O process").

Or do I need to run the IFOEdit process for each individual VOB file (i.e., for VTS_01_2, VTS_01_3, etc.etc. up to VTS_01_8)?

Thanks for any help!

[jimmalenko]

The guide says to Join Clips for a very good reason. Follow the guide to the letter (a very similar guide appears here) then you should be able to import into DVDShrink. Then you can use reauthor mode's start/end feature to isolate the first disc's chapters, then repeat for the second disc, and so on ...

[nathanaa]

<sigh> I *thought* that was probably it. Thanks, I'll give that a try and see if RTFM - and following it - does the trick. Thanks again!

[jimmalenko]

It is very rare to see a guide with a redundant step. Generally, everything done in a guide is done for a very good reason. Personally it staggers me that people can think that they can just "pick and choose" which parts of guides they'll do, and STILL expect to get the same outcome as promised by the guide ...

</end rant>

[nathanaa]

That does make sense, I agree. I think normally I do follow the guides as written. This time, what was confusing me was the references to joining small clips together into one big one. And I was thinking "Whoa - I've got 700+MB to .99GB episodes here, I don't think I'm supposed to join *those*", so that's why I didn't do it. I'm appreciative of the help, especially as I guess I'll still have to make some of my own mistakes though.

Thanks again!

[nathanaa]

Well, another failed attempt. I followed this guide to the letter:

http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/test.htm#ifoedit

And when it had all finished processing, I tried the "DVD Play" button and got these messages -

First:
WARNING
* 1 out of 3 DVD-Video streams failed to render properly
- subpicture stream
* No combination of intermediate filters could be found to make the connection.
* No valid DVD-Video volume could be located
* Decoded closed caption data not rendered properly
Do you want to continue?
[YES] [NO] <I hit Yes>

Second:
DVD Error!
Cannot get the IVideoWindow interface. Sorry, can't play DVD-Video titles.
[OK]

Third:
IFOEdit 971
! Played Titles:
[OK]


So now I don't know if I did something wrong, if the source material is utter crap, or what all else could have happened.

One thing that did seem different than the guide - when I was doing the overwriting-the -IFOs part, other windows popped up asking if I wanted to make BUP files at the same time, or something. I selected "Yes" as the guide said to choose "OK" for the previous action, but maybe I was in error on that?

I tried to open the DVD compilation with DVDShrink and got the exact same error message I have gotten before (listed above).

Any other thoughts or advice folks? It would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: I went back through everything, and did it again. Still the same problem, and an "unworkable" DVD file. Any help would be enormously appreciated - thanks!

[nathanaa]

Bump - still need help with this, if any can provide it, thanks in advance.

[lordsmurf]

Delete BUP, copy IFO, rename IFO copy .BUP

[nathanaa]

Ok, I did the copy & rename of the IFO to BUP files, then tried to open with DVDShrink. I got this error message:

DVDShrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Invalid data in file "C:\WORKING3\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB"
Overlapped I/O operation is in progress.
[OK]

What is "invalid data"? Before I started all this with VOBEdit and IFOEdit, I was able to successfully view (using the Roxio DVDMax player) a couple of the VOBs, including the first one, by double clicking on the VOB (just to see what would happen). I just skipped through them, and they looked like they were viewable, although it was pretty choppy and slow (all video does though on that computer, I don't think it is the fault of the video file).

Anyway, any suggestions on my next step to try would be greatly appreciated, I really don't know what to try next.