LSI Logic DVD recorder gallery

[nlec]

How does this list differ from the old one? Anybody save a copy of the old list?

[lordsmurf]

How does this list differ from the old one? Anybody save a copy of the old list?

The old list is the first post, the new list is the last post I made.

[kitty]

Oh my lord,

My technophobe office manager would like a good quality DVD/VHS combo to copy tapes to DVDR. One preferably at mail order larger stores rather than the refurb outlets.

Would you please recommend your top three with these criteria? Thanks! Meowwww

[tangerine]

What about DR-MH20?
Why that is not on the list?

[FulciLives]

The links in the first post of this thread appear to no longer be "good"

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[nlec]

The old list is the first post, the new list is the last post I made.

Doh! I had the LSI page bookmarked for weeks and used that bookmark to visit the page multiple times every day during that time. I never saved the actual HTML to my local system (which would have been the smart thing to do) and I never bothered to check the 1st post of this thread. I blame myself! Thanks, LS.

[nlec]

The links in the first post of this thread appear to no longer be "good"

Yes, LSI changed/removed the showcase page. I think Lord Smurf means the list of models in that first post; not the links. Unless somebody cached a copy of the LSI Showcase page as it existed for the last year or so, then that list of models will have to be good enough as an historical reference.

[nlec]

Updated again! See http://www.lsi.com/productshowcase/

I see the Philips DVDR3400 and 3390 are listed. Wish I had known that about 6 weeks ago. *sigh* Why can't LSI just put out a definitive list of which makes and models use their chipsets? It would make life a hell of a lot easier. There appear to be some other models in the showcase now that weren't there before.

FWIW the "buy it here" link for the Philips DVDR3390 goes to Walmart's site where they say they're in-stock for $139 and the DVDR3400 link goes to BestBuy where they're in-stock for $150. These newer models would have saved me hours and hours of time back in September when the Panny DMR-ES20 was the only one on the list at the time that I could find anywhere, and it took me 3 weeks to find one.

[FulciLives]

Updated again! See http://www.lsi.com/productshowcase/

I see the Philips DVDR3400 and 3390 are listed. Wish I had known that about 6 weeks ago. *sigh* Why can't LSI just put out a definitive list of which makes and models use their chipsets? It would make life a hell of a lot easier. There appear to be some other models in the showcase now that weren't there before.

FWIW the "buy it here" link for the Philips DVDR3390 goes to Walmart's site where they say they're in-stock for $139 and the DVDR3400 link goes to BestBuy where they're in-stock for $150. These newer models would have saved me hours and hours of time back in September when the Panny DMR-ES20 was the only one on the list at the time that I could find anywhere, and it took me 3 weeks to find one.

Looks like the Philips DVDR3400 has the same LSI chipset as the Polaroid DRM-2001G and I am basing that comment on the fact that the Philips DVDR3400 has the following recording modes: 1 hour, 2 hours, 2.5 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours and 6 hours. The Philips DVDR3390 jumps from 2 hours to 4 hours making it a poor choice in my opinion.

I found that info out about the two Philips models by downloading their manuals from the Philips website.

I also notice that both Philips models have REGION FREE HACKS in the DVD HACKS section of the videohelp.com website.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[nlec]

Anybody know what happened to the Product Showcase? The new, revitalized LSI website is just as disorganized and difficult to navigate as the old one. Not to mention none of the old links redirect properly, and a quick look around yields no evidence at all of them even making video compression chipsets.

[MeekloBraca]

agreed, thankful to whoever found this link, I was looking for the LSI site for a while.

[SingSing]

I think consumers prefered to go out and buy the TV series box sets, than using a DVD recorder's hit or miss progarmming to record the shows.

[Bix]

There's a lot of stuff that will never be released on DVD (Cold Case, various sports & pseudosports, news, etc.)

[edDV]

I'm now looking for a new DVD recorder. What are the advantages/disadvantages of the LSI chipset vs. the others?

Is there an equivalent to a sticky?

[lordsmurf]

I'm now looking for a new DVD recorder. What are the advantages/disadvantages of the LSI chipset vs. the others? Is there an equivalent to a sticky?

#1 - Removes chroma noise from analog sources
#2 - Suppresses grain from analog sources without blurring
#3 - Does not add digital artifacts like other chipsets (Panasonic, for example)

[drmpeg]

Anybody know what happened to the Product Showcase? The new, revitalized LSI website is just as disorganized and difficult to navigate as the old one. Not to mention none of the old links redirect properly, and a quick look around yields no evidence at all of them even making video compression chipsets.

The Consumer Electronics division of LSI has been sold to Magnum Semiconductor. There's no evidence of them making video compression chipsets, because they don't anymore.

http://www.soccentral.com/results.asp?CatID=191&EntryID=23399

Magnum is the company that bought the Cirrus Logic DVD recordable division in 2005. The Sony DVD recorders (like the RDR-VX500) were Cirrus based.

Ron

[LocalHero]

I've done a several month study and, from what I've been able to gather, there is absolutely no DVD/VCR combo unit with both the LSI encoding & decoding chipset AND that has Flex Record. Anybody know if that's correct?

Thanks!

[jjeff]

The Panasonic EA-38v and EZ-48v both have LSI and FR but most people around here don't like that Panasonic keeps full D1 all the way to 4hrs/DVD or LP. If you set FR for 4hrs 1 minute a Panasonic will drop to 1/2 D1.
The Silicon on a Panasonic says Magnum, previous EZ Panasonics said LSI, LSI and Magnum are the same.
Note only US Panasonics have the LSI/Magnum silicon, international Panasonics have Panasonics in-house silicon.
Lastly the EZ-48v is a very buggy machine, if you don't need a tuner the EA-38v is a better choice but almost exclusively sold online.

[LocalHero]

The Panasonic EA-38v and EZ-48v both have LSI and FR but most people around here don't like that Panasonic keeps full D1 all the way to 4hrs/DVD or LP. If you set FR for 4hrs 1 minute a Panasonic will drop to 1/2 D1.
The Silicon on a Panasonic says Magnum, previous EZ Panasonics said LSI, LSI and Magnum are the same.
Note only US Panasonics have the LSI/Magnum silicon, international Panasonics have Panasonics in-house silicon.
Lastly the EZ-48v is a very buggy machine, if you don't need a tuner the EA-38v is a better choice but almost exclusively sold online.

Thank you kindly jjeff! That's useful info.

gibby

[lordsmurf]

I've done a several month study and, from what I've been able to gather, there is absolutely no DVD/VCR combo unit with both the LSI encoding & decoding chipset AND that has Flex Record. Anybody know if that's correct?
Thanks!

It's not correct. The JVC DR-MV1 and DR-MV5 were combo units that had LSI with FR modes. Some of the higher end pro decks also have S-VHS with DVD recorder, based on LSI, with FR mode.

However, combo units are not made for VHS-to-DVD, but rather to simply put a VCR and DVD recorder into the same unit, to "save space" on a rack, or in an entertainment center. The VCRs are usually made like crap (S-VHS deck versions excluded), and combo decks to to wear out faster than two single units.

There's no benefit to a combo.

[LocalHero]

I've done a several month study and, from what I've been able to gather, there is absolutely no DVD/VCR combo unit with both the LSI encoding & decoding chipset AND that has Flex Record. Anybody know if that's correct?
Thanks!

It's not correct. The JVC DR-MV1 and DR-MV5 were combo units that had LSI with FR modes. Some of the higher end pro decks also have S-VHS with DVD recorder, based on LSI, with FR mode.

OK, but those units are impossible to find and, even the one I had (the JVC DR-MV5), I hated. It had all kinds of weird idiosyncrasies like terrible flagging on non-copyguarded tapes.

However, combo units are not made for VHS-to-DVD, but rather to simply put a VCR and DVD recorder into the same unit, to "save space" on a rack, or in an entertainment center. The VCRs are usually made like crap (S-VHS deck versions excluded), and combo decks to to wear out faster than two single units.

There's no benefit to a combo.

The Samsung DVD-VR325 (I have 3 of them) is a wonderful combo. The VCR is better than any unit I've ever owned - going all the way back to my JVC HR7100 with the big beautiful, colorful buttons on the front (loved that VCR!) that I sold at my video store way back in the 80's. The Samsung is solid, smooth and reliable. One of them (the first one I bought), has burned approximately 1000 DVD's without a failure due to the unit. None of my 3 have ever been in the shop and, according to you guys, has the LSI Logic chipset. If it had FR, I'd buy a pallet of them. If you remember, it was one of the last units actually made by Samsung before they started farming them out (unfortunately).

I apologize in advance if this reply isn't formatted correctly. I still have no idea what I'm doing on these posts.

[LocalHero]

It's not correct. The JVC DR-MV1 and DR-MV5 were combo units that had LSI with FR modes. Some of the higher end pro decks also have S-VHS with DVD recorder, based on LSI, with FR mode.


OK, but those units are impossible to find and, even the one I had (the JVC DR-MV5), I hated. It had all kinds of weird idiosyncrasies like terrible flagging on non-copyguarded tapes.

[lordsmurf]

Most Samsung units were "farmed out" -- all the way from the early Panasonic rebadges in 2002-2003 era. I'm not necessarily sure those LSI Samsungs were made by Samsung. There's a few units from known re-badgers with LSI chipsets. I sometimes wonder if those were LG decks, or somebody else.

Most all consumer VHS VCRs play the signals poorly, and most consumer devices are overly aggressive at detecting anti-copy signals, often finding "protection" where none exists. Even that Samsung combo unit was only a mediocre VHS VCR.

Your posting seems fine to me, format-wise. Last one didn't have quote around original text, but that's it.

[LocalHero]

Most Samsung units were "farmed out" -- all the way from the early Panasonic rebadges in 2002-2003 era. I'm not necessarily sure those LSI Samsungs were made by Samsung. There's a few units from known re-badgers with LSI chipsets. I sometimes wonder if those were LG decks, or somebody else.

Most all consumer VHS VCRs play the signals poorly, and most consumer devices are overly aggressive at detecting anti-copy signals, often finding "protection" where none exists. Even that Samsung combo unit was only a mediocre VHS VCR.

Your posting seems fine to me, format-wise. Last one didn't have quote around original text, but that's it.

OK, so what do I need? Lay it out for me. I assume a JVC DR-M100 for recording (& good cables). Give me a couple of VCR's (that are at least somewhat available - I'm willing to wait) that'll play back as much of the recorded information as is available on my pre-recorded tapes and any ancillary equipment (TBC, etc.) that I'll need.

Thanks for your help!

[lordsmurf]

Nothing for me to say -- you just said it already.
M100, good VCR, TBC, other equipment as needed (proc amps, detailers, audio mixers).
Yep, that's about it.

[LCSHG]

lordsmurf

The LSI issue
I read sometime back that there was a Real effort to have CHIP makers incorporate CP in there Chips .
LSI was resisting this. Do you think this pressure lead to some LSI chip divisions Sale? Do the new LSI chips ii recorders incorporate CP and do others?

[jones391]

What is the DVD unit in the Go Video VR3845?
Is it easy to replace with a new one?