LSI Logic DVD recorder gallery

[lordsmurf]

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[trhouse]

It may take some time to confirm, but the JVC DR-M100S and DR-MV5S probably did not make this list because they are too new.

[lordsmurf]

The new JVC's should all still have LSI. This doesn't appear to be a complete list anyway, just a decent one.

And those Philips models, I actually doubt those have LSI encoder chips, I wonder if they are in the list because they have LSI decoder chips.

[lacywest]

What does Pioneer use ??

[lordsmurf]

What does Pioneer use ??

Last I knew, they used Renesas. That was not long ago.
http://www.renesas.com/fmwk.jsp?cnt=dvd_recorder_application_root.jsp&fp=/applications...corder/&site=i
It was stated in some Pioneer documenation earlier this year. Might be still.

Other into, same timeframe, points to the Zoran chipset (found in older Sony and the Toshiba line)
http://www.eeproductcenter.com/showPressRelease.jhtml;jsessionid=V5EVUMP1BOUMIQSNDBCCK...icleID=X273664

[trhouse]

I wonder what brand or brands this company sells under in North America which shows as one of their export markets. The DMN8652 is the same LSI chip used in the JVC DR-M10 and DR-MV1.

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Home-DVD-manufacturers/p/2000000011004/30000001726...1000607333.htm

[lordsmurf]

It might not. Lots of stuff never makes it to the USA, and vice versa.

[Bix]

3 Questions:

1.Do any of the LSI recorders besides JVC have flexible recording?
2.Do any brands besides Pioneer use Renesas?
3.Do any Pioneers have flexible recording?

Thanks.

[lordsmurf]

1. I don't know. LiteOn does not. Most of the DVD+VR ones do not.
2. Not that I am aware of, no. And I'm aware of most machines in the USA.
3. Yes, most of them, if not all of them.

[Bix]

3. Yes, most of them, if not all of them.

Thanks. No idea why I thought they didn't...

[Phantom Of The Opera]

Lordsmurf, do any recorders besides JVC have the feature (I don't know what it's called) you described whereby they can record four hrs on a standard DVD at half-D1 resolution and half the bit rate of 2-hr mode? (I hope you understand what I'm saying ).

[donpedro]

Lordsmurf, do any recorders besides JVC have the feature (I don't know what it's called) you described whereby they can record four hrs on a standard DVD at half-D1 resolution and half the bit rate of 2-hr mode? (I hope you understand what I'm saying ).

I don't... Why are you asking ?

If the question is if other recorders can record in 4h mode, then yes. And which resolution are they using.... you would have to search little bit or read manuals if it is there.

[magic75]

I think he is asking whether there are other recorders which have a 4-hour recording mode that uses half-D1 (or whatever it is called). I think most do?

[qpskfec]

Lordsmurf, have you tried the Philips 615, is it comparable in recording quality to the Liteon and JVC?

[lordsmurf]

Yes, most do, but most recorders at 4 hours look like crap. JVC is one of the few that looks good. Pioneer is another.

I've not used a Philip 615, no. But I bet the LSI chip inside is for decode, not encode. Philips likes to use their own grainy encoder chipset. I'd love to see one in action, as well as taken apart.

[shatner]

I have to say that LG has OEM'ed their DVD Recorder/VCR Combo for a lot of brands out there using the LSI Chipset. Not only the Zenith (still LG) and Go Video (several models), but also for Sanyo, Allegro (still LG), and Insignia (Best Buy brand).

Sadly, LG DVD Recorders get slammed a lot on review sites. Personally I like them a lot. But that may be just me.

[lordsmurf]

Older Sanyo 500 is not an LSI, it's an ESS. Must only be a newer model on LSI.

Zenith is LSI, but I don't believe it's LG OEM. I could be wrong on this one (about it being OEM). Maybe some of them are OEM.

GoVideo is usually not an OEM. They create new stuff using the "whatever is the cheapest part on the shelf at the moment" philosophy. They must've gotten a good deal on the LSIs used in the few LSI recorders they made. From the sounds of things, one model is OEM.

Not familiar with Insignia (not sold around here), nor have I seen Allegro anywhere.

Review sites really just tend to suck. They grade on flukey criteria (pretty remotes, nice shiny colors), and then are eerily always voting for the same 1-2 "name brands" like mindless zombies. You often wonder if they even used the machine for longer than 2 minutes.

I would agree that LG is a decent choice.

[shatner]

Older Sanyo 500 is not an LSI, it's an ESS. Must only be a newer model on LSI.

That's quite true. Only the DVD Recorder/VCR combo is an LG OEM:

http://www.sanyo.com/entertainment/dvd_recorders/index.cfm?productID=1077

Zenith is LSI, but I don't believe it's LG OEM. I could be wrong on this one (about it being OEM). Maybe some of them are OEM.

LG bought Zenith several years ago. All of the DVD players, DVD/VCR Combos, and DVD Recorder/VCR Combos are now made by LG.

GoVideo is usually not an OEM. They create new stuff using the "whatever is the cheapest part on the shelf at the moment" philosophy. They must've gotten a good deal on the LSIs used in the few LSI recorders they made. From the sounds of things, one model is OEM.

The VR5940, VR4940, and VR3930 DVD Recorder/VCR Combos are made by LG using the LSI Chipset. From the looks of things, the VR3845 and VR3840 are made by Samsung.

I unfortunately don't know if their non-VCR units are made by them. I don't think any of them are.

Not familiar with Insignia (not sold around here), nor have I seen Allegro anywhere.

Insignia is Best Buy's attempt at creating their own brand name. They sell computers (formally VPR Matrix), Receivers, Home Theatre Systems (Oritron), portable DVD Players, and portable CD Players.

Their DVD Recorder/VCR Combo Unit: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7127129&type=product&id=1109938021726

Their DVD/VCR Combo Unit:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7128315&type=product&id=1110262764455

They're both LG units.

The Allegros are found at Circuit City:

DVD Recorder/VCR Combo:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Allegro-DVD-Recorder-VCR-Combo-ABR521-/sem/rpsm/oid/120...oductDetail.do

DVD/VCR Combo:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Allegro-DVD-VCR-Combo-ABV511-/sem/rpsm/oid/124121/rpem/...oductDetail.do

From most of these units I could easily tell they were all LG's because the remotes are all virtually identical, as well as the cabinet design. Then I checked out the user manuals and I could easily tell from the Menus that they were all of the same origin (with slight features changed here and there).

Review sites really just tend to suck. They grade on flukey criteria (pretty remotes, nice shiny colors), and then are eerily always voting for the same 1-2 "name brands" like mindless zombies. You often wonder if they even used the machine for longer than 2 minutes.

I would agree that LG is a decent choice.

That is good to hear from you. I know you really know a lot about DVD Recorders so I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks "Life's Good" with LG.

[shatner]

Wow, the page has been updated to include the Allegro and Insignia DVD/VCR Recorder. How weird!

I wonder if someone from LSI Logic is reading this forum?

[GreatSinatraFan]

Does anyone know what chipset the Lite-on LVW-1105HC+, or the Lite-on
LVW-5025GHC+, or the Lite-on LVW-5115GHC+ uses?

Hopefully.. one of these models will use the LSI chipset, as I understand that these chipsets can be modified.

I'm trying to determine if anyone of these Lite-on models can be modified using Mr. Wizards MV hack.

Thanks ~







Ring-A-Ding-Ding!

[lordsmurf]

I wonder if someone from LSI Logic is reading this forum?

Since this post, I've learned that someone is. 8)

As far as LiteOn models, the LSI gallery does not seem to show ALL OF THEM, as I have a model not listed, the LVW-5104.

[shatner]

I ended up buying another Insignia DVD Recorder/VCR Combo off of eBay and just happened to open it up (since the menu had an option for "record in 16x9 format" which my current model doesn't).

To my surprise, there is a Mediatek chipset in it. So somewhere down the road "Insignia" switched to Mediatek from LSI. I wonder if LG did too.

[lordsmurf]

I was not aware Mediatek had an encoder chipset. I was under the impression they only did decoding chips.

[shatner]

Yes, you are correct. I checked again and realized that I made a mistake. It's actually Cirrus Logic in this "newer" (Manufactured June 2005) Insignia model.

Not sure where I got Mediatek from. Doh!

[lordsmurf]

Cirrus is a similar-priced but wholly-inferior chipset. It can work okay, but it's no LSI.

[AngusMacGyver]

1. I don't know. LiteOn does not. Most of the DVD+VR ones do not.

Considering "Flexible recording" is the same as "Just fit", LiteOn 5045 has that feature when recording to DVDs. You can select following modes on DVD-R(W) and DVD+R(W):
HQ - 720x480 1h
SP - 720x480-2h
LP - 352x480-3h
EP - 352x480-4h
SLP- 352x480-6h
Fit - Depends on recording lenght
It records (S)VCD to CD-R and CD-RW.
Image quality is excelent, but I think its user interface would be better.

[lordsmurf]

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[Bix]

Any chance of a list of the Lite-On clones, since they're not on LSI's list?

[MrSpeed]

Why are certain models available only in the UK like the JVC DR-MH300 etc . ? It seems like we have a pretty small selection of decent recorders available to us in the states.

[oldandinthe way]

The electronics industry has decided that there is limited consumer interest in DVD-recorders.

The easy availability of Tivo-like devices from cable and satellite providers in the US is a contributing factor. Cable and satellite pentration in the US is far greater than elsewhere in the world. Even poor people pay a cable or satellite provider.