How to insert more than 99 photos in the same DVD?

[Carheim]

Hi all,
here is my first post on this forum . I'm using Adobe Creative Suite.

I'm actually trying to author my own first DVD by grouping most of my personal pictures.
I already created with Adobe Premiere some slideshows with music, and inserted them easily in my DVD structure.

I now would like to be able to display each image as a thumbnail, and be able to display it full screen when browsing on. For that each pictures have been transformed as a mini movie of 6 sec, and then easily inserted on a button. And that works fine.

Here is my problem :
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I know I can't insert more than 99 chapters on my project. So I can't insert all my photos in one DVD that way.
Do you know any solution to not attribute a chapter id to each photos ? Does it mean that I will only be able to insert my photos as slideshows ?

Thx for your help.

I'm not native english so sorry for mistakes .

[thecoalman]

It's 99 chapters per titleset, you can have more than one titleset. I don't know how that software works but the authoring app I use treats each clip as a different tiltleset.

[guns1inger]

You can have 99 titles per titleset. You can't use the chapter button to jump titles, but you can put a chapter stop on the last i-frame of a title and link through to the next title. To the user it will be seemless.

Or you can use menus - up to 250 in a titleset.

Unless Encore itself has other limitations.

[Carheim]

Could u just tell me what's the diff between titleset and menus ?

My DVD is created as follow:
* main menu to go to slideshows or pictures
* submenus with 12 buttons for 12 pictures, 3 buttons for navigation
* submenus with 5 buttons to slideshwos, 3 buttons for navigation

In total I have 25 menus for pictures only.

[guns1inger]

A title is a movie or slideshow. A titleset is a collection of titles with common traits - same aspect ratio, same audio type etc. Each titleset can have it's own menus - up to 99 menus per titleset, with up to 32 items per 4:3 menu. There are other limitation however, including limits on the amount of space a menu can take up - no more than a GB - and the number of VOBs in a titleset - no more than 9.

So - if you create a single titleset with 10 titles, and each title contains 98 photos with 99 chapter points (saving the last chapter point for the end of each title), you have 980 photos just like that.

Personally, I'd get bored sitting through that many.

[Carheim]

OK I thus should find an option to create several titlesets, and then duplicates my own menus in each titleset ?

That should looks like:
Titleset1 Titleset2 Titleset3
Menu1 Menu2 Menu3 ... Menu1 Menu2 Menu3 ... Menu1 Menu2 Menu3 ...
and photos in each menus ?

[guns1inger]

You don't need different titlesets, just multiple titles. Use Premiere to create mutliple movies, each with a different set of photos. If all the movies are the same aspect ratio and have the same audio type (e.g. - all 2 channel AC3), then these can all go in the same titleset.

Structure would be

VTS1
->Title01 (first movie full of photos)
->Title02 (second movie full of photos)
->Title03 (you get the idea)

The menu structure might be

Main Menu
->Photos 1 - 98
-->Photos 1- 12
-->Photos 13 - 24
-->etc
->Photos 99 - 197
-->Photos 99 - 111
-->etc
->etc
-->etc

Just make sure that the end of title one links to title two and so on, so that a chapter next at photo 98 moves it on to photo 99, not back to the menu.

[Carheim]

OK that's good explanation.

However I can't understand how you change the behaviour of display between the movie and chapter display.

Let's use an example:
I build a slideshow of 30 images separated with chapters.
When the slideshow is played, I'm will see all pictures one after the other. OK that's normal so far.
But if I'm using chapter markers to display them as thumbnails, and want to see only one picture, the slideshow will play from that picture until the end, and does not go back to chapter menu.

So my question is how to change behaviour after a picture depending on the way we are watching it ?

Thx

[guns1inger]

That depends on how your authoring program handles it. Generally, you would be creating a playlist containing that chapter. DVD Lab Pro allows for chapter playlists. DVD Architect, unless the very latest update changes things, allows for title playlists only, but does allow your to set a behavior for the end of the cell. I don't know how Encore would do it, but that is the type of feature you are looking for.

Personally, I would ditch the video/chapter approach for one that is based on menus. It will make it much easier to do what you are after.

[Carheim]

OK what I fear happends !!!
Chapters in slideshow are present ... but when displaying images as chapters, and selecting one chapter, the full slideshow is played and does not come back to chpater menus ... It seems to be a dead end.

About title/titleset ... I did not manage to use them properly. That's not working as well ...

Do u have other ideas ?

[Carheim]

I think I just at last realise the problem ... a DVD structure can not hold more than 99 objects(movie, slideshow,picture, sound track ...) whatever they are.

But each object (movie or slideshow) may contain up to 99 chapters !!!

Is that right ?