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  2. Originally Posted by adam

    Dat recorders do not record data generally, they can only record data in the form of a musical recording.
    Actually, Dat drives have been used for PC backup for many years. Almost as soon as the audio versions appeared, PC data only devices using exactly the same tape and technology (except the music A-D) were being made as PC backup devices. My Employer uses a DAT jukebox for exactly this purpose.

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    Compare this with a cdr recordable. Its function is to record data, any data.
    Surely digital audio or video is 'just data' when stored on any form of digital storage device. Its the way that data is interpreted and processed by a computer program or dedicated hardware device that makes it audio or video.


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  3. At the risk of sidetracking the legal discussions here, just a note I thought Smart Ripper hasn't been updated or supported in a while? I don't really have an opinion on Clad execept I stopped using it some time ago because of bugs. Could be fine now. Seems to me the options are thinner than people think.
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    yeah man I was wondering the same thing.
    What program are we going to use now?

    Does anyone have any information on existing or upcomming programs that will be able to take DVDDecrypter's place?
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  5. I still use DVDD alot but now I also use DVD43, cladDVD.net and anyDVD and haven't had any problems with any of them as of yet
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    is DVD43 updated to get past the latest sony protection?
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    if dvd decrypter fails to work on any new protections that are used, then it should be possible to still use the features of dvd decrypter while running anydvd in the background,,,as long as there are no conflicts with the 2
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  8. Originally Posted by Merlin7777
    is DVD43 updated to get past the latest sony protection?
    According to the changelog, the latest version can cope with bad sector protection, as in "Resident Evil", The Grudge", "The Forgotten", et. al.
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    it should be possible to still use the features of dvd decrypter while running anydvd in the background,,,as long as there are no conflicts with the 2
    I currently use AnyDVD in conjunction with DVD Decryptor without any issues. Never really needed to but I just leave AnyDVD running in the background as I play a lot of R1 DVDs.
    At US$40 I would seriously recommend AnyDVD. At the time I resented paying for it but now wouldn't be without it.
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    Originally Posted by Merlin7777
    Does anyone have any information on existing or upcomming programs that will be able to take DVDDecrypter's place?
    Since DVD Decrypter has gone, in order to tackle newer protections like Rip Guard, i guess we'll have to rely on payware applications, such as AnyDVD and DVD Region + CSS Free.

    Unless someone comes along to develop another freeware to take over dvd decrypters place.
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  12. As do I leave AnyDVD running in the background.
    No problem yet
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  13. Have any though of asking the groups on the Mac side of the fence, who makes rippers, to port to PC? Just a though.
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    Im with you Tory
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    Someone will come up with a new program. It is as inevitable as someone coming up with a daft idea. Hell, in the Commodore 64 days, it wasn't just someone, it was dozens of groups of someones who gave their groups cool names and sent each other hails in place of the copyprotect code on the games.
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    Originally Posted by e404pnf
    At US$40 I would seriously recommend AnyDVD. At the time I resented paying for it but now wouldn't be without it.
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    I beg to differ. Perhaps the company who sold you region-coded DVD should reimburse you the $40 you've spent for the software to remove it.
    Im still looking for an inexpensive lawyer who'd sue all of the dvd-releasing companies who made region-protected discs I owe
    Who are they to tell me I can't play a DVD I bought while on vacation in say Zimbabwe?
    Would you be quiet and say nothing if i.e. a textile companies told you "you can buy, but you can't wear, cotton shirts made in Europe because youre from America"? (or opposite)
    They were able to pull this dvd 'region ecoding' utter crap only because they did so *before* first products hit the market.
    F**k them all.
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    DereX888 that is why all DVD players are required to be able to have their region changed. You get so many changes and then you have to get it unlocked again by the manufacturer. It allows for people to update their player when they move or make extended trips to other countries, but limits abuse in the form of bootlegging.
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    Originally Posted by adam
    DereX888 that is why all DVD players are required to be able to have their region changed. You get so many changes and then you have to get it unlocked again by the manufacturer. It allows for people to update their player when they move or make extended trips to other countries, but limits abuse in the form of bootlegging.
    It has nothing to do with abuse, and everything to do with profits and controls.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by adam
    DereX888 that is why all DVD players are required to be able to have their region changed. You get so many changes and then you have to get it unlocked again by the manufacturer. It allows for people to update their player when they move or make extended trips to other countries, but limits abuse in the form of bootlegging.
    It has nothing to do with abuse, and everything to do with profits and controls.
    Exactly as smurf said.
    Bootlegging exists, and actually it is blooming regardless IMO, just look around adam.
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    That too lordsmurf but clearly it prevents abuse as well.

    DereX888 on the contrary I do not think bootlegging is blooming at all. I am not talking about piracy, that is different. I am talking about exporting a DVD to a country where it has not been licensed for release, and selling it at an inflated price due to its exclusivity. It hurts that country's economy and also hurts the consumer. Since the average person is not willing to bother with bypassing region protection, bootlegging is dramatically decreased due to the protection.
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    I dont see why movie studios just introduce a fixed date for worldwide release of dvds. This would mean less worry and damege to the economy.

    Just like LOTR was released same date worldwide on dvd, why cant other movies be as well.
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    I think more than anything its just because its easier said than done.
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  23. The end of DVDDecrypter and other like programs will not stop piracy. It may stop the average person from making backups but not the pirates. I'm sure the pirates have people working for them that can break any copy protection the studios come up with except for one, crappy movies that nobody wants to watch. If they don't want the average person making backups why don't they lower the prices and/or make it easy to replace a damaged disc for free.
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  24. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by adam
    DereX888 that is why all DVD players are required to be able to have their region changed. You get so many changes and then you have to get it unlocked again by the manufacturer. It allows for people to update their player when they move or make extended trips to other countries, but limits abuse in the form of bootlegging.
    It has nothing to do with abuse, and everything to do with profits and controls.
    I agree with you, besides, the copies that are sold here are region free, so region coded dvds are not really helpful towards decreasing pirate activity.
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    MeDiCo_BrUjO read my last post because you are mixing up the terminology just like the last two people that responded to my post.

    Of course region coding doesn't prevent piracy, it has nothing to do with that. Region coding is used to prevent bootlegging of legitimate DVDs, not pirated ones.

    Bootlegging is a problem for all kinds of goods. I think one of the most frequently bootlegged items there is are blue jeans. Its just that with something like a DVD, you actually have the capability to add that hardware barrier rather than have to rely soly on Customs and local authorities. Believe me, they's do it for blue jeans too if they could.
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    Region coding has nothing to do with the prevention of bootlegging. It was instroduced in a failed attempt to prevent (mainly) North American releases being sold in other countries as happened previously with VHS and laserdiscs.
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    That IS bootlegging! Its illegal if the product has not been licensed for sale in that foreign country.

    Geesh, what this site needs more than anything else is a great big link to dictionary.com plastered on every page.
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  28. Originally Posted by adam
    MeDiCo_BrUjO read my last post because you are mixing up the terminology just like the last two people that responded to my post.
    You're right, I misinterpreted your post, I thought that bootleg was equal to pirate copy. Reading the latest posts made me realize my mistake.
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  29. Originally Posted by adam
    That IS bootlegging! Its illegal if the product has not been licensed for sale in that foreign country.
    I am well aware that that is the case. I have seen reports on court cases against big companies buying goods abroad and selling them at prices below RRP. What I don't understand is how the manufacturer has the right to stop this happening. Why does the consumer not have the right to purchase goods from whereever and whoever he wants, as long as they are not couterfeit or otherwise inferior?
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  30. i couldnt give a shit about corporate power grabbing nutjobs.
    if i want to watch a movie,be it american,japanese,chinese,whatever,ill import it,borrow it,etc.
    f**k them and there region coding,or there copy protection.
    il backup what i want,watch what i want,when i want,and not when they want me to.
    and if more people made it clear they work for us,and not the other way round,then a simpler world it would be.monkeys in suits is all the corporate world is,no more no less.
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