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[e404pnf]

Just beat me to it Guns1inger...
We have the same legislation here in the UK where the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) have to review the main film & all the extras. The certificate ratings that films get often differ between the UK, Ireland & US (not sure about those down-under).
- e404pnf

[guns1inger]

Ours were closer to the UK ratings (G - General instead of U - Universal, semantics really) however we are now somewhere inbetween the UK and the US. We have an M and an MA that fill out the staged R rating of the US system, with our R rating being a hard "no one under 18 years admitted". The major inconsistency is the X rating. We have one, but it only applies to items sold in 2 states. Technically, it is legal to own x rated material, and to pruchase it mail order from the two states that allow it. It is illegal to sell it in the other states. We have no provision for unrated material as a choice of the distributer, however this is an exempt category for documentary material, and provision for certain material to be shown without classification. This is usually restricted to foreign language material for film festivals. Australian classificatiosn are

e - Exempt - some documentaries fall into this.
g - general exhibition. suitable for all viewers.
pg - parental guidence recommended for viewers under 12.
m - persons under 15 admitted if accompanied by an adult.
ma - no persons under 15 years of age admitted.
r - no persons under 18 years of age admitted.
x - as for r and restricted as to where it can be sold.
nve - non-violent erotica. Not sure if this is in use officially. It was suggested as an attempt by the adult film industry to get a non-threatening rating for adult films.

To show you how absurd it gets though, Baise Moi was refused classification, then given an R rating on appeal. It ran for two weeks before a second appeal, this time by a christian family association, had it's classification removed, effectively banning the film. Without putting any value on the film itself - that is up to viewers to decide - Irreversible was released only a few months later to an R rating on it's first attempt. An appeal to have it banned failed.

Ken Park, on the otherhand, was refused classification on release, and on appeal. One high profile movie reviewer helped in the public showing of bootleg copies download from p2p. These showings were met by police raids, including one memorable raid where the police shut down the power in front of the media before bursting to seize the offending item. Thsi resulted in the stupidest news footage for sometime showing a police officer vanely trying to eject a DVD from a player without electrical power. Copies of Ken Park purchased via eBay or OS venders have been seized by customs. To top it all off, many films that were refused classifications in the past are now being released uncut to MA or R ratings (the films of Lucio Fulci, for example).

The OFLC and the classification system in Australia are such that a film is never banned, simply 'refused classification'. Similarly, a film is never censored, simply given a classification based on it's merits. If a distributer wants a more commercial classification (eg, MA instead of R) then the board can suggest edits that maight facilitate that. They never censor themselves though.

[Nilfennasion]

m - persons under 15 admitted if accompanied by an adult.
ma - no persons under 15 years of age admitted.

You've got it confused there.

M simply means the film is recommended for persons 15 and over. Although the lady at the ticket window might ask a question or two if a couple of eight year olds try to get in, there is legally nothing stopping a twelve year old from seeing an M rated film. Your description of the M rating applies to the MA rating.

[guns1inger]

So sue me

[RottenFoxBreath]

ive just recieved a couple of R1 dvds in the mail this morning,not out here in the uk yet,longer than uk versions by a few minutes,and 1 is unrated,great too as no custom charges again,and ill be ordering hostage and the limited constantine too,so like guns1inger says "sue me".
ill never stop,as the uk movies are stupidly edited,most are vastly shorter than the us or international versions,and some of the extras they stick on dvds,have been removed.
noone,and i mean noone is going to stop me from buying legally released movies,be it from any country,and from backing them up.until such a day as the bedroom and living room police are formed, ill just keep doing my own thing.
incidently,cutting some movies the way the bbfc do,as to not "corrupt" the public is stupid,there ancient outdated dinosaurs,and moves are under foot to do away with them,ive never felt the urge to go out and do harm to anyone,after seeing an uncut movie,and if people do,then they should be locked away,or mediacally "sorted".its quite simply madness.

[guns1inger]

We sit somewhere in the middle. On the one hand, some of our past DVD releases have been the UK release (makes sense from a shared format point of view). For instance MiB was the UK release, which had some dialogue replacement ("prick" became "jerk" etc). On the otherhand, we also often get harder versions than the US R-rated theatrical release. Angel Heart and Bad Santa were both released out here as R or MA rated (Angel Heart was released prior to the MA rating being introduced) but were both the same as the unrated releases in the US. Yet we still don't always get the same extra's package, or have to wait stupidly long periods (sometimes years) for some special editions to get release - T2 took a number of years to get released out here, apart from a pretty poor quality movie only disk of the theatrical cut.

The basic tennet of all of this is that if you don't live in the US, you can go and take a running jump as far as hollywood is concerned. And while they keep that attitude in the forefront of their very small and unimaginative brains, p2p and cross-region imports will continue, and their release schedules won't mean dick.

(we seem to have strayed a long way from the original 'DVD Decrypter is dead" post)

[e404pnf]

incidently,cutting some movies the way the bbfc do,as to not "corrupt" the public is stupid,there ancient outdated dinosaurs,and moves are under foot to do away with them,ive never felt the urge to go out and do harm to anyone,after seeing an uncut movie,and if people do,then they should be locked away,or mediacally "sorted".its quite simply madness.

Couldn't agree more! There were some big changes at the bbfc in the 70's & 80's but nothing significant has changed since then. BBC News recently reported in horror that the bbfc have no rights to regulate (ie censor) web broadcasts into the UK - and lets face it, they probably doesn't have to ability either. So while its a little way off we may see this prompting some serious changes in the bbfc.

-e404pnf

[MeDiCo_BrUjO]

This is why here in Ecuador all the retailers sell Region-Free Dvd Players.

[RottenFoxBreath]

back on track to the dvddecrypter is dead bit,its still possible to create your own .psl files to get round the arrcrap protection,by sort of ripping the disc,making a note of the erros,outputting to a notepad doc,then reripping the disc again,and this time it will work.
only thing is the future macrovsion "crapguard".
i assume that right now,some 4 eyed little techie will be reverse coding dvdd to see how they can defeat other rippers

EDIT:
pointless,but i always get a little warm fuzzy feeling inside when ive backed up a movie of mine,and at the end of it,the little macrovision triangle appears with "cp" copy protected in it...chuckle to myself,and say,"suuuure you are."

[BJ_M]

well i just tried isobuster -- the latest version ..

and it works on latest sony protection fine ...

[RottenFoxBreath]

what did you use that on,and was it full disc or just movie only?

[rkr1958]

well i just tried isobuster -- the latest version ..

and it works on latest sony protection fine ...

I'm missing a step here. How do you get the unencrypted image that you input to isobuster?

[BJ_M]

other way around - if you need to ... make an image with isobuster to use with your other fav. apps like dvd shrink .. isobuster will replace bad sectors etc with blank data

[rkr1958]

other way around - if you need to ... make an image with isobuster to use with your other fav. apps like dvd shrink .. isobuster will replace bad sectors etc with blank data

So ISOBuster will make an image of an encrypted DVD disc and replace the bad sectors? Then you use DVDDecryptor to rip the ISO image? Is that it?

[BJ_M]

or shrink

[rkr1958]

or shrink

Cool ... So what's the big deal about RipGuard and bringing DVDDecryptor down? Is it that users will have to use a two programs instead of one, and twice the disc space, to rip a DVD?

[djelimon]

Glad I paid the $40 for AnyDVD...

Always thought Antigua was nice and remote...

[hudsonf]

Whats the trick to get ISOBuster to work? I just tried a test with ISOBuster and all I get is errors.

[Xylob the Destroyer]

ja!
what's the trick?
all the guides for this tool pertain to VCD/SVCD...

[Nilfennasion]

It's simple maths, rkr1958. Two programs equals twice as many options (well, maybe not exactly twice, but you get the idea).

I think in future, programmers should entrust their source code to a cadre who keep it lying around in case of events like this, so it can be modified and stuck up somewhere else in secret. And honestly, this crap about it being against the law to circumvent protection has got to go. This is just a case of disliking defeat so badly as to change the rules of the game so there is only one possible outcome. It's bad enough when a CEO acts like a child, but a whole spectrum of corporations?

[guns1inger]

Walter Lindrum Syndrome

[rkr1958]

Walter Lindrum Syndrome

[Baldrick]

http://www.dvddecrypter.r8.org/ ?

[cowgoo]

Maybe he found a legal loophole that said HE couldn"t use the code. I noticed that he's looking for someone to reverse engineer dvdd

[MeDiCo_BrUjO]

How is this possible?, is that page for real?.
DVD decrypter is offering the latest release, is this the same lightning_uk???

[BJ_M]

http://www.dvddecrypter.r8.org/ ?

yea -

I'm looking for a wide range of people including reverse engineer,

i wonder if REALLY it is UKlightning ? Doesn't fit in with what he said in the past about not doing anything any longer --


plus i didnt think it was written in C or C+ (not sure)

[dvdguy4]

Well lets hope so. It wouldnt be the same without dvd decrypter.
If I new how to program id do it for free, but I cant .

[BJ_M]

prob. fake before you get all excited

[NightWing]

Could be a honney pot...

ADDED:

Also why compress it? The "installer" is already compressed.

[dvdguy4]

I guess time will tell. Wait and see