Virtualdubmod and subtitles

[Rodurigo]

My problem is this...
It already occur 2 times in diferent moments....

When i joined avi files with virtualdubmod and
When i used virtualdubmod and cce to encode a avi file i lost the subtitles in the created video files.
What can i do to preserve the subtitles?

Ps: On the files that were separeted into 2 avi files the folder had a filename.sub for each avi (is that the subtitle?And if it is, and that is my problem how can i join the diferent subtitles ?)
But remembering...This problem occur two times and in one there was no file for subtitles and it was gone anyway.

THANKS!!!!

[Baldrick]

do you want permantent subtitles in the video? then use the vobsub plugin for virtualdub and frameserve to cce.

[Rodurigo]

And is there a way to put subtitles that are not temporary?

[mats.hogberg]

Yes. Described above.

/Mats

[mats.hogberg]

But if you are going to create a DVD, I suggest you do real DVD subs. (Convert sub with subtosup, author with IfoEdit)

/Mats

[Rodurigo]

I encode with cce. how do i add subtitles with frameserve (what is?) How does that work?

[Rodurigo]

PLz!
I download the vobsub and when i try to encode the avi flie in the TMPGEnc without avisynt script it worked but whit the avysinth did not worked (and i need the avisynth). I want to encode with CCE but i don´t know what a frameserve is and how to use. I could encode in any of them but i need to use the avisynth. Plz if someone could help me it would be great!
Thanks

[manono]

Hi-

Your AviSynth script file is the frameserver. You can also use VDub as the frameserver, but it's a slower method. I asked a couple of questions in your other thread. You shouldn't have opened a new thread on the same subject.

I think you want to "burn" the subs into the video, but Mats is right. You should create real selectable DVD subs.

[Rodurigo]

i tried to use the subtosup but it did not recognize the sub that i had for this avi. I opened the program but when i tried to select the sub from the folder nothing apear. When i tried with another sub that i had it worked. The diference that i saw betwen this two sub files it was that the one that the program recognized it is codified and the one that i want to work on i can read the actual subtitle when i open the sub file.
But if there is another way to create real DVD subs or there is another program or a way to make my sub file open in the subtosup please tell me.

[mats.hogberg]

Ah - you got a text .sub, not a VobSub .sub. Then, convert the .sub to .srt with Subtitle Studio/ Subtitle Workshop, then srt2sup for IfoEdit authoring.

DVD-Lab Pro, DVDAuthorGUI can import .srt directly, so no need for str2sup if you use one of those to author.

/Mats

[manono]

Hi-

Yes, follow Mats' instructions for creating DVD selectable subs. I'll leave the other thread behind and answer the rest here.

Your script doesn't have the subs in it, so it's understandable why you didn't get any. In the future, if for some reason you want to burn subs into the video, you have to load the VSFilter (comes with VobSub, which you should already have), and then insert a TextSub line into the script:

LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\VSFilter.dll")
AVISource("Video.avi",False)
LanczosResize(648,432,0,0.5)
TextSub("C:\Path\To\Video.sub") #or ssa, or srt, or whatever
AddBorders(36,24,36,24)
ConvertToRGB24()

If you have an idx/sub file, then that TextSub line gets replaced with:

VobSub("C:\Path\To\Video") #or whatever the name of the idx/sub file is

Before sending it off to the encoder, open the script in VDubMod to make sure the subs are there, and that you have the right size, font, color, position, etc. Also, while you have to have that ConvertToRGB24() line for TMPGEnc, for CCE 2.5, it's better to have ConvertToYUY2(), and for newer versions of CCE, you don't need that line at all.