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  1. I am playing around with Goldwave. I am trying to convert from my VHS-C camcorder to .avi, but my camcorder only records in mono. What I would like to know is if there is a way - the easier the better - to copy the mono track and paste it or some how turn it into stereo using Goldwave or some other audio editing program?

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  2. I guess I got the right combo of words for the search and found that I can fix this by using VirtualDub.

    This problem has been resolved and I am moving on with my education.

    Vance
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  3. Hey,

    how did you go with converting from mono to stereo. I'm looking at doing the same thing so I downloaded virtualdub also.

    Hopefully it's a simple enough process?


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  4. I don't know that you can make true stereo from that (not cheaply anyway). I've heard of some people delaying one of the channels for "fake stereo."
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  5. All I did to get the "stereo" sound was to open Goldwave and save the audio from my clip as a wave file. Then opened the clip in VirtualDub. I went to AUDIO and selected WAV audio and opened the audio for my clip. Back into AUDIO again and selected FULL PROCESSING. Finally back into AUDIO again, selected CONVERSION and then tagged it to MONO - believe it or not. Then all I did was save the whole thing as a new .avi and it gave me "stereo".

    This may not be true stereo, but for my purposes, it gave me the sound I was looking for.

    Hope this helps,
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    It's 2 channel mono, also known as joint-stereo. The same mono track duplicated in both channels. There is no seperation effect, but at least playback isn't limited to the centre speaker - something which annoys me on old mono DVDs.
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    Originally Posted by Vance
    All I did to get the "stereo" sound was to open Goldwave and save the audio from my clip as a wave file. Then opened the clip in VirtualDub. I went to AUDIO and selected WAV audio and opened the audio for my clip. Back into AUDIO again and selected FULL PROCESSING. Finally back into AUDIO again, selected CONVERSION and then tagged it to MONO - believe it or not. Then all I did was save the whole thing as a new .avi and it gave me "stereo".
    You can do it all in Goldwave. Just open the mon audio and copy it. Then start a new clip (only has to be 1 second long) and paste the copied file. It will paste the mono into both channels.
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    You don't need to do anything in Goldwave. You do it all in VirtualDub in Audio > Conversion.
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    Don't know Goldwave but if it has an EQ, preferably 30 band, try running it through 30 times with each individual frequency turned to 0dB, except for all the rest. Save all 30 frequency seperations to seperate wav files then take them into multitrack software(I use Adobe Audition). Try placing voice frequencies in both left and right tracks during mixdown. Also bass frequencies. When you get to the sub-voice and higher than voice frequencies, experiment with placing them out of phase for a feaux stereo seperation. Use an expander. Many work by just placing audio out of phase. Then add them into your left/right stereo mix and you've got yourself something more than just mono.
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    Man, that's a lot of work for a maybe return.
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  11. Just use a Y adaptor cable when you capture.
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    Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Man, that's a lot of work for a maybe return.
    I was trying to show how ridiculous some of the questions are around here in regards to audio. Don't even get me started on another stereo to surround post. SHEESH!
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  13. Convert Mono to Stereo Goldwave

    All you need to do is Go to

    File -> Save As

    Then change the Attributes to Stereo !

    Good luck!
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    Originally Posted by guns1inger View Post
    It's 2 channel mono, also known as joint-stereo. The same mono track duplicated in both channels. There is no seperation effect, but at least playback isn't limited to the centre speaker - something which annoys me on old mono DVDs.
    Yes, what the OP is getting is ONLY 2ch Mono (aka Dual Mono).

    THIS IS NOT JOINT STEREO! Completely different beast. Joint stereo (usually) refers to an ITD compression method or a M/S (aka Sum+Difference) compression method, that utilizes the efficiency of the common signals in both channels (aka center channel), yet allows for ~full resolution coding of the signal portions unique to the individual channels.

    2ch Mono is ACTUALLY wasteful of bandwidth, unlike Joint Stereo. because a 2ch mono signal duplicates the signal in each channel instead of just splitting a single center channel signal into 2 channels on output. And IMO, any playback system that doesn't correctly do that anyway with 1ch Mono signals is a FLAWED system and needs to be fixed/replaced.

    @Vance,
    If you liked your outcome, FINE. But do not say that what you have is stereo by ANY stretch of the term. I don't want others searching for "mono to stereo" threads and thinking they've hit the jackpot here. Far from it.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: "The amount of effort to convert something simple into something more complex is just about equal to the great amount of effort to CREATE that complex thing in the first place". This goes for Mono->Stereo, Stereo->Surround, Black&White->Color, 2D->3D, etc. There is no free lunch! (IOW, it can be done, but at great cost of time, energy/effort, and money)

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    Converting mono into stereo requires an audio engineer, and specialized software.
    Even that has its limits.

    I think the Wikipedia writeup on Fantasia covers some of this.
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