Missing Audio TS, Does it matter?

[DEmberton]

Is it likely to cause problems having no audio_ts directory?

[garrisonkw]

Check out some of your store bought DVDs sometime. Not all of them have AUDIO_TS folders. I can't remember the title, but I was backing up a disc the other day and noticed it had no AUDIO_TS folder. Played like a champ anyhow.

[DEmberton]

Just wondered if any over-zealous DVD players would decide it isn't a DVD. Thanks.

[garrisonkw]

This is only a guess, but I don't remember ever having heard of DVD players not playing store bought releases because they were missing AUDIO_TS folders. That seems like the sort of thing that would stick in my head.

Now, my Intervideo DVD software won't play a DVD from a folder unless it's in a VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS configuration. Not sure why that is, but there's an example of a missing AUDIO_TS causing problems.

All in all, it's probably better to just add an empty folder. Uses practically zero space, and keeps things nice and compliant.

[Pench]

teh audioTS folder is only if you are making a dvdaudio disc. The audio that goes with your video is in the videots folder. You don;t need an audiots folder.

[canadateck]

teh audioTS folder is only if you are making a dvdaudio disc. The audio that goes with your video is in the videots folder. You don;t need an audiots folder.

This is "Half" true. It is there for DVD's 'Video' as well.
Just to make it more compatible because there are some DVD Players that wont play the DVD if they dont see the "Audio_TS" File.

[canadateck]

When burning a DVD,Always Include a "Audio_TS". It will be more likley that the DVD "Wont" Play if its not there,then if it's there.

[wulf109]

NO,it is not needed. Half the retail DVD's out there DO NOT HAVE an Audio_TS folder.

[canadateck]

NO,it is not needed. Half the retail DVD's out there DO NOT HAVE an Audio_TS folder.

I disagree, There are Players that will "NOT" play the DVD if it's not there.
We are not making Retail DVD's here.

[canadateck]

Better safe then Sorry. Always include a Audio_TS folder.

There is "Many" Authoring/Burning programs that wont burn without it also.

[SLK001]

It used to be a requirement to be a compliant DVD (from what I have gleened and heard from the specs that I have never seen), and many older DVD players might require the AUDIO_TS folder to be there before it accepts the DVD as "compliant". From what I've heard, a later release of the specs relaxes the requirement for the folder on a compliant DVD.

But, older players may REFUSE to play a now compliant DVD that doesn't have the folder. I say either leave it in, or put it in, to prevent problems with that 3% of the players that WON'T play without it.

[adam]

I seriously doubt the DVD specifications ever required the AUDIO_TS directory. You can look at some of the very first DVDs ever released commercially and there are plenty that don't have it. I've also never heard of any player that had any problem with a disc without it and I don't know of any authoring software that requires it. According to the DVD Demystified book, DVD Video players NEVER even look for an AUDIO_TS directory and never did. The only players that even parse this directory are DVD_Audio players and hybrid DVD_Audio and video players, and the latter still don't require that it be there.

canadateck the only difference between retail DVDs and the ones we make ourselves are that they get theirs pressed and we burn ours. Either way we are still using the same DVD standard on the same DVD compatible players. The fact that the AUDIO_TS directory has always been optional on commercially released DVDs is pretty sure evidence that it has always been optional in the DVD standard. In any case, I agree with you, you might as well put it on there just for the hell of it but I think its safe to say that it is never necessary for DVD-Video.

I think the reason why it is somewhat prevelant despite the fact that it is pointless for DVD-Video discs is because many of the high end authoring programs just export an Audio_TS directory by default. The studios generally just export directly from the authoring software to DLT tape so there is no method or reason to remove it.

THAT is why some DVDs have the directory and some don't. It depend on which authoring software they are using.

[canadateck]

canadateck the only difference between retail DVDs and the ones we make ourselves are that they get theirs pressed and we burn ours. .

All the more reason to make it as compatible as Possible. I know Ulead will include this,I'm pretty sure there was a version of "Nero" That also required it there to "Burn". I have burnt without it and it played fine,But I always make sure it's there.

[canadateck]

Bottom line I quess..

It wont do any harm.

[steve2713]

My Pioneer 420 DVD Recorder doesn't even write the AUDIO_TS folder to discs, for what it's worth. You would think it would write the AUDIO_TS folder if it was required for playback compatibility.

[DEmberton]

Thanks for the replies. The problem I had was definitely not that as I put back in the directory and it still fails.

[richdvd]

My Pioneer 420 DVD Recorder doesn't even write the AUDIO_TS folder to discs, for what it's worth. You would think it would write the AUDIO_TS folder if it was required for playback compatibility.

I agree.
I don't think it's that much of an issue whether the folder is there or not.

[tomwil]

Is it likely to cause problems having no audio_ts directory?

My portable DVD player (Initial DVD-9510) will not play any DVDs without an AUDIO_TS folder. Since my Panasonic DVD recorder does not write this folder, it makes viewing any of the Panasonic DVDs impossible on the portable player.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Thanks for the replies. The problem I had was definitely not that as I put back in the directory and it still fails.

The problem might be bad media or a bad file,does the DVD play on your PC?

[on2dvd]

I know for a fact that some do need the AUDIO_TS folder.
My old man has a Toshiba 2900 (i think that was the model) and when I do him DVD-R's they will not play without the audio folder. I rewrite the project with it on there and it works. Also, if I include DVD-ROm folder or data it will not work.
While this does not prove anyones point of view it proves to me that it is good practice to include the audio folder.