how much can you bench press??

[ps2daddy]

dont be concerned what other can do just try to focus on doing better than the day before.

@ps2daddy - do you supplement?

I coach football and our kids are always into one supplement or the other. We discourage it but you know what that's like. I always try to try all the supplements the kids are using and I try to do as much research on them as I can.

Our most common supplements are:

Creatine - EAS Phosphagen
Cell-Tech
Pro-Complex Whey Protein

I dont at the moment but I am debating about using some creatine in tablet form, I need to start taking my multivitamins regularly too.

[Hardcoreruss]

I take creatine solution.

Tablets are rubbish you have a loading time of about 30 mins and then you have to take them after your session also.

With the solution you take four drops and that is it.

[beavereater]

Simple rule -
high weight, low rep = bigger, more powerful muscles
lower weight, high rep = thinner, better defined muscles

The high weight low rep I agree with. However, the lower weight high rep part I don't agree with. Definition comes with your diet. You eat properly, lose bodyfat, and your muscles start popping through. Lower rep, and high weight is for stamina IMO.

As far as supplements...Whey is best post work out because it's considered a "fast" protien and gets to the muscles quickly to repair them and best taking with dextrose.

As far as creatine...

I take creatine solution.

Tablets are rubbish you have a loading time of about 30 mins and then you have to take them after your session also.

With the solution you take four drops and that is it.

Powder is better. Powder is quickly absorbed.

www.creatinefacts.com

[northcat_8]

Simple rule -
high weight, low rep = bigger, more powerful muscles
lower weight, high rep = thinner, better defined muscles

The high weight low rep I agree with. However, the lower weight high rep part I don't agree with. Definition comes with your diet. You eat properly, lose bodyfat, and your muscles start popping through.

Sorry...I was assuming everyone knew the low body fat and dietary part of cutting up.

Lower rep, and high weight is for stamina IMO.

Disagree. Perhaps you mis-typed...it seems you are saying doing fewer repitions would increase your stamina? Endurance = Stamina...


I agree on the Powder Creatine. I've tried all 3 forms and I think the powder is better too. But you also get what you pay for. 300 grams for $20 (GNC brand) is not going to be as good as the one that is 300 grams for $52 (EAS brand).

I don't even mix the creatine with anything, I eat that right off the spoon and then take a drink of water. Also do not be fooled by the "delivery systems", those may help somewhat, but are definitely not needed to achieve full results. If you are "dire" need of a delivery system drink grape juice with your creatine.

all this weightlifting talk is getting fired up to get off my ass and get big again
I was perfectly happy being lazy, drinking caffine and alcohol...
but Nooooo, you guys just couldn't just leave it alone could you?
Dammit

[ps2daddy]

We must all get pumped!!!!!

[beavereater]

@northcat_8

Sorry my mistake...what I was trying to say was more sets, more reps = higher stamina, but not what you want to be doing if you want your muscles to grow BIG ASS.

Also, when getting your creatine, make sure your getting it 100 percent pure, not the crap mixed with gatorad powder and crap. 5 grams after every workout, and in the mornings before breakfast on an empty stomach on non-lifting days. Although, some say just take it whenever...personally, I like my creatine in the form of red meat, like a nice sirlone steak!! hmmmm...steeeaak

[ChrisX]

Well, I used to do around 300 lbs, but that was a few years ago.

I ceased gym training 19 months ago due to ill health and age.

During 1995, I was at the strongest ever and quite bit of muscles then.

Unfortunately, I don't have a photo.

[northcat_8]

@northcat_8

Sorry my mistake...what I was trying to say was more sets, more reps = higher stamina, but not what you want to be doing if you want your muscles to grow BIG ASS.

I thought you just mistyped.

There is one golden rule of weightlifting, if you want to get BIG, you have to lift BIG!

Although I don't buy from a1supplements...

http://www.a1supplements.com/detail.aspx?id=1385

http://www.a1supplements.com/detail.aspx?ID=1654

I do buy the protein from Pro-Complex.

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/p.asp?p=merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY%26Store_Cod...y_Code=prcmplx

and as I said before...Cell Tech is the stuff!!

[beavereater]

@northcat_8

Sorry my mistake...what I was trying to say was more sets, more reps = higher stamina, but not what you want to be doing if you want your muscles to grow BIG ASS.

I thought you just mistyped.

There is one golden rule of weightlifting, if you want to get BIG, you have to lift BIG!

Don't forget to eat BIG...no calories, no protien, no muscle...

[ps2daddy]

I am about 405lbs right now trying to get up to 425-440 for a competition in July

My motto is if you can bench press your weight then your doin something

Well I just finished the competition and had a sucky day at the bench
I opened up with 365 no problems but 405 with the pause just didnt go and didnt have enough gas on the 3rd attempt (I screwed up my tricep doing 420 in the gym about 2 weeks ago

However I did get a 530lb deadlift which is a pr for me in a deadlift competition

[beavereater]

I am about 405lbs right now trying to get up to 425-440 for a competition in July

My motto is if you can bench press your weight then your doin something

Well I just finished the competition and had a sucky day at the bench
I opened up with 365 no problems but 405 with the pause just didnt go and didnt have enough gas on the 3rd attempt (I screwed up my tricep doing 420 in the gym about 2 weeks ago

However I did get a 530lb deadlift which is a pr for me in a deadlift competition

Deadlifts are my favorite!!

The tris being injured certainly was the cause for not lifting as much as you could. How bad did you hurt them (Or is it just on one side) How did you injure them?

[ps2daddy]

Just pulled the tendon pretty good on my right tricep it should heal up in a few more weeks

[beavereater]

Just pulled the tendon pretty good on my right tricep it should heal up in a few more weeks

I did the same thing doing hammer curls. I had to give up hammer curls for a few months. It sucks when it's your tendon.

[DiablosuX102]

I just tried yesterday and can bench 170. (I'm 16)

Josh

[ps2daddy]

Cool Josh keep on pumpin man!

[ps2daddy]

Just pulled the tendon pretty good on my right tricep it should heal up in a few more weeks

I did the same thing doing hammer curls. I had to give up hammer curls for a few months. It sucks when it's your tendon.

I was trying to bench the 420 with a closer grip than ususal when I screwed up my tricep

They have a strongman competion where I live in in about 3 weeks and I am almost crazy enough to go for it depending on my elbow.

I am also going to get a bench shirt and shoulder horn to keep my rotator cuff pain free and aid in my training I want to shoot for 430-450 lbs for next years competition (not wearing the benchshirt)

The best pro benchers can add 300+ pounds to their bench while wearing the tightest and most expensive shirts

[beavereater]

The best pro benchers can add 300+ pounds to their bench while wearing the tightest and most expensive shirts

I doubt that...I'd do a little more research first.

As for your tricep, close grip definitely had to do with it. You put more of your weight on your tricep when doing that, the whole reason for CGBP when working your tris.

[rhegedus]

The best pro benchers can add 300+ pounds to their bench while wearing the tightest and most expensive shirts

No way.

30lbs maybe, 300lbs no.

[ps2daddy]

The best pro benchers can add 300+ pounds to their bench while wearing the tightest and most expensive shirts

No way.

30lbs maybe, 300lbs no.

www.scotmendelson.net/

His record is 718lb +/-5 pounds (I am not for sure could be 713lb without the shirt raw)

He has almost got 1000 offically but gene rychlak has that record 1004lbs(yes they are both wearing shirts triple ply denim shirts

[rhegedus]

So how does this shirt work?

[ps2daddy]

So how does this shirt work?

It provides extra support and stores and returns a portion of the energy that you use to bring the weight down to your chest it aids by exploding the weight off your chest
It has a differnt feel I have seen it in use I plan on using one my next training cycle
(It also prevents shoulder and pec injuries since it give extra support)

(in meets that allow shirts some lifters have problems getting the weight down to their chest)

Titan

http://www.titansupport.com/products/shirts/fury.htm

Inzer

http://www.inzernet.com/search_results_benchshirts.asp?txtsearchParamTxt=&txtsearchPar...el=2&subcat=24

The tighter the shirt the better the results they require a lot of practice and getting use to the feel and the art of benching in a differnt groove (slightly differnt path than normal)

Single ply shirts might only give you 30 - 80lbs depends on the person but double and triple ply shirts blow them out of the water and they say a lot harder to bench in

Been doing some research on them lately and if you want some reference article on best ways to train using them I found a couple of links

Also when you bench without the shirt after you use it you are able to handle larger weights since you can overload to your muscles for growth which increases your raw bench

[rhegedus]

So it adds extra spring to the lift by compressing the fibres on the downstroke?

I can believe that it works to some extent, but 300lbs?

[ps2daddy]

So it adds extra spring to the lift by compressing the fibres on the downstroke?

I can believe that it works to some extent, but 300lbs?

Ask Scott Mendeleson and Gene Rylachek I dont expect that much out of it but for the world class guys they couldn't lift 1000lbs without it
(They are extreme cases though also)
I garentee any bench over 718lbs the guy definitely has on a shirt

Brent Mikesell has a 1140 squatting record wearing a suit designed on the same principle

[ps2daddy]

I might consider bionic pectoral, deltoit, tricep, and trap implants though

[beavereater]

Sorry...I've also seen guys at the gym wear their shirts, and it doesn't add that much to their bench. Although they are just training, they go from something like 200lbs, to 220, 240 and then 260. Like I said, don't expect much out of the shirt. Just like creatine, it's overated. In the end it'll give you that extra *umph*...in competition, that's what might seperate you from 1st and 2nd...but in reality, you're OK without it.

Then again, that depends on your goals...strenght or size.

[ps2daddy]

I dont have the training or big bucks to make use of a $350 triple denim shirt but I would never expect to gain 300lbs out of it either but I would be awfully disapointed if it didnt give me at least 100lb differnece while wearing. I plan on paying between 50-80 bucks for a single ply poly shirt

I might try some creatine so I can recover faster and train harder I would like to get to around 450lb raw by next July

The competitions that I usually enter are completely raw

[beavereater]

I dont have the training or big bucks to make use of a $350 triple denim shirt but I would never expect to gain 300lbs out of it either but I would be awfully disapointed if it didnt give me at least 100lb differnece while wearing. I plan on paying between 50-80 bucks for a single ply poly shirt

I might try some creatine so I can recover faster and train harder I would like to get to around 450lb raw by next July

The competitions that I usually enter are completely raw

Hate to sound like a broken record, but creatine is highly overrated for what they try and market it as. I use creatine, but not for the "faster recovery" part of it. Here are some of the reasons you should take creatine.
Creatine Increases Brain Oxygen
Boost Your Brain Power: Creatine, A Compound Found In Muscle Tissue, Found To Improve Working Memory And General Intelligence
Creatine and Neuromuscular Diseases
Creatine and Heart Function

[mrtristan]

I could bench a maximum of 205lbs, at a body weight of 130lbs. I think I'd have a hard time benching my body weight now.

[tb33]

I used to have a max bench of 355 lbs and climbing, but that was 12 years ago. I was working out at home alone. I heard/felt a pop in my chest, and then the pain began. After the chest injury, I couldn’t work any other body part without sever pain. I haven't worked out since. I feel much better now and I'm having a strong urge to start working out again. 8)

Word of advice, always have a workout partner near by, because you never know what's going to happen. 315 lbs was normal workout weight for me, but I’ve learned after you’ve been stuck under 315 lbs with an injury it’s like having the world on top of you.

[beavereater]

I used to have a max bench of 355 lbs and climbing, but that was 12 years ago. I was working out at home alone. I heard/felt a pop in my chest, and then the pain began. After the chest injury, I couldn’t work any other body part without sever pain. I haven't worked out since. I feel much better now and I'm having a strong urge to start working out again. 8)

Word of advice, always have a workout partner near by, because you never know what's going to happen. 315 lbs was normal workout weight for me, but I’ve learned after you’ve been stuck under 315 lbs with an injury it’s like having the world on top of you.

Go for it...get a good routine, eat properly (80 percent of the battle is fought with a fork and knife in the kitchen). I'd workout at the gym though...working out at home limits you, unless you're a rich bastard with your own personal gym.