Installing xp home upgrade??????

[budz]

I'm trying to fix a relatives pc that originally had win98. I've heard it's better to do a clean install of xp. It's my understanding that a clean install will ask for a verification of a windows operating system which in this case would be the win98cd. So the steps would be to insert xp home cd first then the win98 cd The pc is a COMPAQ 5315KS desktop. This is my first time having to reinstall someone's pc that used a xp home upgrade cd. I usually do clean installs with just using the windows cd and no upgrades. Any advice will be appreciated. I have some time to fix this pc since my relative can't find the xp home upgrade cd.

[redwudz]

During the XP installation it will ask for the 98 OS CD and you insert it until it verifies it. Usually takes a minute or two. Then you go back to the XP install disc.

Definately a clean install is better, along with repartiition and reformat, usually to NTFS.

[budz]

Thanks for the advice redwudz it's much appreciated, now if they can only find that xp home upgrade cd!

[lumis]

you might consider slipstreaming service pack 2.

its not too terribly difficult.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp

[budz]

thanks lumis for the link.....as it turns out their hard drive is failing so i'll have to replace it as well.....just when you think something is so simple it turns out to be more work.....

[Bjs]

Ok people , listen up

Most applications will say somewhere within them , that they were specifically designed to run on FAT32 , not NTFS formatted partitions .

For those of you who have fat32 , with xp installed along with sp2 , and you are getting an error when installing applications , you need to uninstall sp2 first , install your aplication , then reinstall sp2 , thats the fix I reported back to ms with .

For those running into game problems , should allready know how to run them in compatabilty mode .

But if the games you are running are prior to say 2000 , you should at all costs avoid ever installing directx9c . Once that thing is installed , you have to wipe out xp all together and reload it . Again another report to ms on the problem .

I have many companies ask me the same problems when their applications fail to install on replacement pcs , and thats the cure .

I'm happy , if ms keeps stuffing things about , I'll be filthy rich in a few years time helping people sort out their pc problems ....

[lumis]

what programs dont work with ntfs, but do work under fat32 with windows xp?

[pfh]

thanks lumis for the link.....as it turns out their hard drive is failing so i'll have to replace it as well.....just when you think something is so simple it turns out to be more work.....

It will be a "clean install" now.

[p_l]

But if the games you are running are prior to say 2000 , you should at all costs avoid ever installing directx9c . Once that thing is installed , you have to wipe out xp all together and reload it . Again another report to ms on the problem .

I also had to reinstall XP and everything (from Norton Ghost - saves the day again ) after installing DirectX 9c buggered up a bunch of apps, e.g. EO Video.

Anybody else get grief from DirectX 9c?

Why does it do that?

[Bjs]

You see now .

And as for the question of what apps might have this problem , do a search on the subject , you'll find this subject repeated in so many forums , it'll make your head spin and leave you thinking twice about updating to xp .

I give you atleast 1 that dose have this problem I know of because I have the disk - worldbuilder pro 2.3 , and I think edit studio 2 also ran into the same problem .

Unistall sp2 , install the app , reinstall sp2 , thats fixed .

As for that ntfs vs fat32 , really , dig into the files that came with your programs , as the developers do leave tell tale marks behind that say they developed there product mainly for fat32 formated drives , if no notes , again , use the web search engines to find out more on the product in question , I am dead positive you will come across information related to this subject , and maybe even fixes to any problems you might have with any game or application .

The only reason I "have" to have sp2 is because the device drivers for usb2 are strictly a microsoft propriety product , and there is no licencing to out side developers . Otherwise my usb2 avermedia avertv device would be absolutely useless .

Good old linux , the heart of the free development world dose have usb2 drivers for some devices , but they have had to put considerable resources behind this development , cash wise .

The problem with directx9c , and the reason developers should stop using it now is simply windows xp no longer care's for the api thats used in direct9c , it will do one of two things .

Run as expected .

Or forget it , its broke .

Thats why I prefer a dual boot system :

Windows 98se : if it aint broke , its fine , leave it alone .
Windows xp + sp2 : if it breaks , return to boot option 1
Linux mandrake 10 : if the first do stuff up , its bootable , no problems .

the linux idea is so you can still use you system , get online , and get drivers and other help to sort out you pc problems .

For those interested in one , might I recommend looking for something called "puppy linux" , its 50mbs , bootable , web , and cd burning in one .

Just use nero to burn it , and dont close the cd , that means you can backup files too the bootable linux cd allready in your pc .

Or to a usbkey , handy , and they even threw in a couple of games , one is extremely addictive ....

Its also very safe and personal , nothing is left on the pc , so the next time it boots the owner dosent know what you have been upto , and it works on pcs with 300mhz cpu and 128mbs ram (64mbs requires the input of the command at boot "mem=64") .

Hope that gives you all you need ...

[lumis]

And as for the question of what apps might have this problem , do a search on the subject , you'll find this subject repeated in so many forums , it'll make your head spin and leave you thinking twice about updating to xp

i searched google and the only thing i could really find was that old games wouldnt run.. which is reasonable since they need direct access to the hardware.. this seems like its easily solved by running an emulator.. with the speeds of todays computers pretty much any older game should be run at 100%..

as for world builder, i couldnt find anything about it conflicting with ntfs, but maybe with windows xp.. there are newer versions of the program that support windows xp.. and i couldnt find anything for "edit studio 2"

then again, you cant really expect support for really old programs with windows xp.. with advancement comes incompatibility.. would you expect the transmission from your 1996 ford to work on a 2006 ford? probably not..

i think the best way to solve those "old program issues" is by simply using an emulator.

i've used microsoft virtual PC (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx) its really easy to use and works very well.

[pfh]

Agreed.

Another point to consider is there is not a whole lot of reasons to use a fat32 file structure with XP. Part of the stabilty of XP vs 98 is the NTFS vs fat32.

[ViRaL1]

Agreed.

Another point to consider is there is not a whole lot of reasons to use a fat32 file structure with XP. Part of the stabilty of XP vs 98 is the NTFS vs fat32.

As well as security. NTFS offers EFS (Encrypting File System) built right into it.