DVD2SVCD doesn't like high bitrate mpegs?

[oldfart13]

I'd impose this question at Doom9 but apparently you now have to wait 5 days after you join the forums to be able to post anything, so here goes:

I was attempting to convert a DVD compliant mpeg to SVCD with DVD2SVCD as I usually do, but it seems to balk at the process if the bitrate is really high, over 9 MBPS. This doesn't happen when I use lower bitrates to record with (under 6 MBPS). I've spent the last 24 hours attempting to convert a 44 minute video file. The first time, I had a hard system crash. Rebooted and restarted (now this is a big misnomer as it restarts from the beginning and not from where the crash took place), leaving all other settings the same. I checked some time later and it seems to want to convert to 2 CDs though the setting is clearly 1 CD if under 50 minutes. Okay, I let it do it's thing for 8 hours (PIII) and it crashes because it runs out of HDD space (before writing anything to the HDD!). Okay, restart from the beginning and it does it's thing but now it wants to convert to 3 CDs! I can't figure out what the !@#$ is going on. This time it got to 48% of the conversion and 4 Gig left on the drive before crashing. Anyone else have problems with this program?

Here is the log file:

WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 4/20/2005 7:25:21 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 3
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Initializing
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 4/20/2005 7:25:25 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob]
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- 4/20/2005 12:35:17 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 3
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Initializing
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 4/20/2005 12:35:22 PM
- Free on drive E: 2530.25 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: From the start
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- 4/20/2005 12:35:23 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob]
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 4/20/2005 12:38:20 PM
- Free on drive E: 2530.04 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3

Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 4/20/2005 12:43:07 PM
- Free on drive E: 2367.40 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "E:\DVD2SV~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "E:\DVD2SV~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -l 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 4/20/2005 1:10:12 PM
- Free on drive E: 2246.02 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1543075576
AudioSectors: 129776808
VideoPAPO: 21892752
ScanOffsetBytes: 153326
SeqAligningBytes: 9744745
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 1381507937.07
Seconds: 5335.16
CalcMPEGStream: 1381507937.07
Frames: 127772
CDSize: 740.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 736.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 127772
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 2
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2071
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg 2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\INVE RS~1\decomb.dll")
MPEG2Source("E:\DVD2SV~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
BicubicResize(464,480,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(8,0,8,0)
Import("E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.540
Video Encoding finished.

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- 4/20/2005 9:43:23 PM
- Free on drive E: 899.14 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "E:\DVD 2 SVCD Conversions\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv" -prog_frames p
Video pulldown finished.

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- 4/20/2005 9:49:35 PM
- Free on drive E: 0.00 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/20/2005 9:49:38 PM
- Free on drive E: 0.00 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/20/2005 9:49:41 PM
- Free on drive E: 0.00 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/20/2005 9:49:43 PM
- Free on drive E: 0.00 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 1
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 736 mb
EWriteError Stream write error
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- 4/20/2005 10:48:15 PM
- Free on drive E: 1297.55 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: From the start
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- 4/20/2005 10:48:16 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme] INI file:
- C:\Program Files\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme].INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme].
Executing [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme].exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob]
--------------------------------------------------------
- 4/20/2005 10:49:26 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- [removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme] ver. 1.2.2 build 3
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Initializing
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 4/20/2005 10:49:38 PM
- Free on drive E: 1297.74 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: From the start
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- 4/20/2005 10:49:39 PM
- [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]
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Creating [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme] INI file:
- C:\Program Files\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme].INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme].
Executing [removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme]\[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme].exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,F:\Temp Misc DVDs\Volume 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob]
Framerate: 29970
[removeme]DVD2AVI[removeme] processing done.

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 4/20/2005 10:57:21 PM
- Free on drive E: 1297.09 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3

Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 4/20/2005 11:08:40 PM
- Free on drive E: 2677.69 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing [removeme]BeSweet[removeme]. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\[removeme]BeSweet[removeme]\[removeme]BeSweet[removeme].exe" -core( -input "E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "E:\DVD2SV~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "E:\DVD2SV~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -l 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 4/21/2005 12:03:30 AM
- Free on drive E: 4700.34 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing [removeme]Cinema Craft Encoder[removeme].
StreamSectors: 2502857364
AudioSectors: 259407204
VideoPAPO: 34752240
ScanOffsetBytes: 306655
SeqAligningBytes: 19489642
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 2188901611.20
Seconds: 10664.41
CalcMPEGStream: 2188901611.20
Frames: 255546
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 3
Cut point 796.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 255546
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 2
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1642
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\[removeme]DVD2SVCD[removeme]\AVISYN~1.5PL\INVERS~1\decomb.dll")
MPEG2Source("E:\DVD2SV~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
BicubicResize(464,480,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(8,0,8,0)
Import("E:\[removeme]DVD 2 SVCD[removeme] Conversions\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

Another thing that is problematic is the step of converting an Mpeg file to avi before converting to SVCD Mpeg. Wouldn't it be more efficient to stay within the container format, in this case, Mpeg 2? The time savings has got to be tremendous when doing that.

Oh well, time to erase the entire batch and try one more time. If it doesn't work, then I'll have to give up this software.

Computer: PIII 1 GHz
OS : Windows XP
Memory : 500 Megabytes
HDD : 4 with lots of space...

[BJ_M]

you have very little space in fact .. in fact it looks like you may of run out (doing pulldown) as you only had 80meg before pulldown and you will 1.6Gb at that point still ..


really overworking a p3 1ghz for this ..

the input bit rate should not mater ..

[oldfart13]

I freed up 5.6 Gig on another drive and tried again using exactly the same settings. Result: perfect conversion in 3 hours! I guess one drive is faulty. That still doesn't explain the poorly thought out recovery mode. It should recover from the point of the crash, not start over from the beginning. It also doesn't explain why on recovery it simply must redo the audio when the file is clearly listed as being completed. Apparently, using the crash recovery section, you must uncheck several settings. That SHOULD be automatic and not up to the user. I guess it'll be a bit before I send more $$ the author's way as this stuff still has too many warts to make it usuable on my system. The absolute use of programs to convert mpegs to avis and then back to mpegs should also be rethought out. It's just too much a waste of time and resources.

P4 power money isn't available to me and building piece meal is out of the question, so I HAVE to stick with the PIII.

[BJ_M]

nothing is being converted to avi's ... it is all frame served ..

[oldfart13]

I stand corrected. Any idea where I can get an encoder that will handle native Mpeg 2 DVD format and convert it directly to Mpeg 2 SVCD format? This would be much speedier for my purposes than frameserving to Vdub or other programs. I don't use filtering but I can see where this would be helpful for those using avi containers, since you are staying in avi parameters. I'm not, so the frameserving doesn't do me much good and it slows everything down to a crawl. A good transcoder program should do this, free or not doesn't matter, so long as it does what I want it to do.